Starting my first 500mg test cycle is there anything I should add or remove, general advice etc?

[HeavyMetalLover]

Ok so i'll be starting my first cycle 500mg test prop in late oct or nov, not titrating cause thats cope but will be starting 150mg next week to cut from 11-12% bf to 8% and as I wait for all my ancillaries to arrive

Cycle:
500mg Test P pinning daily
4IU HGH - will lower to 2.5IU when cruising

Estrogren
Aromasin on hand if symptoms present or bloods show high e2

Skin and Hair:
Dut 2.5mg daily
Isotret 20mg daily (can up this if needed) and 0.025 tret 2x weekly (daily atm but will drop down as tolerated)
GHKCU 2mg daily (already taking this)

Lipids
Ezetimibe 10mg daily
Citrus Bergamot 1200mg daily
Fish Oil 3-4g EPA+DHA daily
Reta 4mg weekly (already on 2mg but will increase as 4-8mg is ideal for insulin benefits etc)

Cardiovascular support
Telmisartan 40mg Daily go to for blood pressure and lvh
Cialis 10mg daily (already take 10mg pre-workout, can reduce but im pretty tall and this works well for me)
Also 1g NAC (liposomal formulation) as a general antioxidant and to reduce oxidative stress
Epelerenone 25mg daily - not specifically for bp but to help stay debloated whilst on cycle

Fertility
HCG 500Iu weekly split 2x - should I do this eod instead? not fully sure on this

Other Random shit
Daily Gym/Cardio, high carb high protein low fat diet
Will donate blood if haematocrit gets too high
Pregab and Baclofen sometimes when going out
25mg HCTZ before any events
200mg Edibles few times a month for funsies, shrooms/lsd/caps very occasionaly
Micros im already taking -
Magnesium 800mg daily
Vit D/Vit K2 5000iu/180mcg
Benfotiamine 200mg Daily - especially cause high carb/caffeine this shit is so underrated
Melatonin 3mg Nightly
Multivitamin (Half Daily)
Creatine 10g Daily
Gelatin 10g Daily
1mg Finasteride Daily (will drop when starting Dut)
6g Raw Garlic daily
300mg caffeine, 600mg Alpha GPC and 10g L Citrulline pre-workout

Things I was thinking of adding and Questions/Concerns
Injectable L-glut to pair with NAC as an antioxidant, def want to add this for the potential skin lightening and health benefits but its a bit expensive for the doses i'd want to do and idk i'd need a better source, will probs run when I have more money
Rosuvastatin - was thinking of doing a low dose like 5mg daily as I know it pairs well with Eze but the diabetes risk kinda scares me, I also don't want to be taking a bunch of shit when it's not necessary yk, thoughts?
CoQ10 - Im pretty sure rosu depletes this so def would take this if on rosu and for its other benefits, again don't want to be just adding random shit tho
KPV - for inflammation, I feel like my main issue with my skin and scalp has always been inflammatory so maybe this would help? - seems like cope tho
Tudca - Probably unnecssary especially when not running any orals, NAC and l-glut would likely be enough for liver support regardless

Am a bit concerned about the hyperkalemia risk when combining telmisartan and epelerenone, will doing frequent labs to monitor creatinine and potassium levels be enough to mitigate this, how often should I do labs for these or am I overthinking it?
For bloods planning to do them before starting trt dose, 5 weeks into blast, then every 2-3 months during, post blast, then like 1-2x a year when cruising, is this fine?
Also won't have dut until im blasting so when on trt dosage will 1mg fin be enough for any hair loss? will my collagen and shit be completely fine? ik it's just for 5 weeks on such a low dosage but i'm a paranoid fag

Thoughts? I reckon it's not even that much especially cause a lot of this shit i'm already taking. I think this is a decent stack since I don't want to be taking the whole pharma of drugs especially on just a test-only cycle but I do still care about health and longevity. Any advice is appreciated sorry for the long ass thread as well fuck

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

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[justtrynalookgood]

Ok so i'll be starting my first cycle 500mg test prop in late oct or nov, not titrating cause thats cope but will be starting 150mg next week to cut from 11-12% bf to 8% and as I wait for all my ancillaries to arrive

Cycle:
500mg Test P pinning daily
4IU HGH - will lower to 2.5IU when cruising

Estrogren
Aromasin on hand if symptoms present or bloods show high e2

Skin and Hair:
Dut 2.5mg daily
Isotret 20mg daily (can up this if needed) and 0.025 tret 2x weekly (daily atm but will drop down as tolerated)
GHKCU 2mg daily (already taking this)

Lipids
Ezetimibe 10mg daily
Citrus Bergamot 1200mg daily
Fish Oil 3-4g EPA+DHA daily
Reta 4mg weekly (already on 2mg but will increase as 4-8mg is ideal for insulin benefits etc)

Cardiovascular support
Telmisartan 40mg Daily go to for blood pressure and lvh
Cialis 10mg daily (already take 10mg pre-workout, can reduce but im pretty tall and this works well for me)
Also 1g NAC (liposomal formulation) as a general antioxidant and to reduce oxidative stress
Epelerenone 25mg daily - not specifically for bp but to help stay debloated whilst on cycle

Fertility
HCG 500Iu weekly split 2x - should I do this eod instead? not fully sure on this

Other Random shit
Daily Gym/Cardio, high carb high protein low fat diet
Will donate blood if haematocrit gets too high
Pregab and Baclofen sometimes when going out
25mg HCTZ before any events
200mg Edibles few times a month for funsies, shrooms/lsd/caps very occasionaly
Micros im already taking -
Magnesium 800mg daily
Vit D/Vit K2 5000iu/180mcg
Benfotiamine 200mg Daily - especially cause high carb/caffeine this shit is so underrated
Melatonin 3mg Nightly
Multivitamin (Half Daily)
Creatine 10g Daily
Gelatin 10g Daily
1mg Finasteride Daily (will drop when starting Dut)
6g Raw Garlic daily
300mg caffeine, 600mg Alpha GPC and 10g L Citrulline pre-workout

Things I was thinking of adding and Questions/Concerns
Injectable L-glut to pair with NAC as an antioxidant, def want to add this for the potential skin lightening and health benefits but its a bit expensive for the doses i'd want to do and idk i'd need a better source, will probs run when I have more money
Rosuvastatin - was thinking of doing a low dose like 5mg daily as I know it pairs well with Eze but the diabetes risk kinda scares me, I also don't want to be taking a bunch of shit when it's not necessary yk, thoughts?
CoQ10 - Im pretty sure rosu depletes this so def would take this if on rosu and for its other benefits, again don't want to be just adding random shit tho
KPV - for inflammation, I feel like my main issue with my skin and scalp has always been inflammatory so maybe this would help? - seems like cope tho
Tudca - Probably unnecssary especially when not running any orals, NAC and l-glut would likely be enough for liver support regardless

Am a bit concerned about the hyperkalemia risk when combining telmisartan and epelerenone, will doing frequent labs to monitor creatinine and potassium levels be enough to mitigate this, how often should I do labs for these or am I overthinking it?
For bloods planning to do them before starting trt dose, 5 weeks into blast, then every 2-3 months during, post blast, then like 1-2x a year when cruising, is this fine?
Also won't have dut until im blasting so when on trt dosage will 1mg fin be enough for any hair loss? will my collagen and shit be completely fine? ik it's just for 5 weeks on such a low dosage but i'm a paranoid fag

Thoughts? I reckon it's not even that much especially cause a lot of this shit i'm already taking. I think this is a decent stack since I don't want to be taking the whole pharma of drugs especially on just a test-only cycle but I do still care about health and longevity. Any advice is appreciated sorry for the long ass thread as well fuck

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[Diddihippi09]

Ok so i'll be starting my first cycle 500mg test prop in late oct or nov, not titrating cause thats cope but will be starting 150mg next week to cut from 11-12% bf to 8% and as I wait for all my ancillaries to arrive

Cycle:
500mg Test P pinning daily
4IU HGH - will lower to 2.5IU when cruising

Estrogren
Aromasin on hand if symptoms present or bloods show high e2

Skin and Hair:
Dut 2.5mg daily
Isotret 20mg daily (can up this if needed) and 0.025 tret 2x weekly (daily atm but will drop down as tolerated)
GHKCU 2mg daily (already taking this)

Lipids
Ezetimibe 10mg daily
Citrus Bergamot 1200mg daily
Fish Oil 3-4g EPA+DHA daily
Reta 4mg weekly (already on 2mg but will increase as 4-8mg is ideal for insulin benefits etc)

Cardiovascular support
Telmisartan 40mg Daily go to for blood pressure and lvh
Cialis 10mg daily (already take 10mg pre-workout, can reduce but im pretty tall and this works well for me)
Also 1g NAC (liposomal formulation) as a general antioxidant and to reduce oxidative stress
Epelerenone 25mg daily - not specifically for bp but to help stay debloated whilst on cycle

Fertility
HCG 500Iu weekly split 2x - should I do this eod instead? not fully sure on this

Other Random shit
Daily Gym/Cardio, high carb high protein low fat diet
Will donate blood if haematocrit gets too high
Pregab and Baclofen sometimes when going out
25mg HCTZ before any events
200mg Edibles few times a month for funsies, shrooms/lsd/caps very occasionaly
Micros im already taking -
Magnesium 800mg daily
Vit D/Vit K2 5000iu/180mcg
Benfotiamine 200mg Daily - especially cause high carb/caffeine this shit is so underrated
Melatonin 3mg Nightly
Multivitamin (Half Daily)
Creatine 10g Daily
Gelatin 10g Daily
1mg Finasteride Daily (will drop when starting Dut)
6g Raw Garlic daily
300mg caffeine, 600mg Alpha GPC and 10g L Citrulline pre-workout

Things I was thinking of adding and Questions/Concerns
Injectable L-glut to pair with NAC as an antioxidant, def want to add this for the potential skin lightening and health benefits but its a bit expensive for the doses i'd want to do and idk i'd need a better source, will probs run when I have more money
Rosuvastatin - was thinking of doing a low dose like 5mg daily as I know it pairs well with Eze but the diabetes risk kinda scares me, I also don't want to be taking a bunch of shit when it's not necessary yk, thoughts?
CoQ10 - Im pretty sure rosu depletes this so def would take this if on rosu and for its other benefits, again don't want to be just adding random shit tho
KPV - for inflammation, I feel like my main issue with my skin and scalp has always been inflammatory so maybe this would help? - seems like cope tho
Tudca - Probably unnecssary especially when not running any orals, NAC and l-glut would likely be enough for liver support regardless

Am a bit concerned about the hyperkalemia risk when combining telmisartan and epelerenone, will doing frequent labs to monitor creatinine and potassium levels be enough to mitigate this, how often should I do labs for these or am I overthinking it?
For bloods planning to do them before starting trt dose, 5 weeks into blast, then every 2-3 months during, post blast, then like 1-2x a year when cruising, is this fine?
Also won't have dut until im blasting so when on trt dosage will 1mg fin be enough for any hair loss? will my collagen and shit be completely fine? ik it's just for 5 weeks on such a low dosage but i'm a paranoid fag

Thoughts? I reckon it's not even that much especially cause a lot of this shit i'm already taking. I think this is a decent stack since I don't want to be taking the whole pharma of drugs especially on just a test-only cycle but I do still care about health and longevity. Any advice is appreciated sorry for the long ass thread as well fuck

Not bad

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

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Yea ik, but I'd rather get it all out then make 1000 threads asking each different question

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

Not bad

anything you'd change?

 

[Diddihippi09]

anything you'd change?

Maybe put another thing like Var in but idk what your goals are

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

Maybe put another thing like Var in but idk what your goals are

Not doing it for any bone growth or cope shit like that, I've been lifting for roughly 8 months, problem is i'm 6"5 so to get my ideal physique I'd need like 3-4 years (even then might not be enough), i'm also 20 so i'm purely doing this to accelerate my lifting journey so I can have peak SMV whilst im 21 instead of having to be a natty cuck, also did an aggresive cut before started lifting and it really fucked my hormones so I need that drive and mental clarity back asap. Should I wait until my second cycle to start var? It's probably the only other things I'd consider since I love the looks it gives besides that i'm pretty set on just running test/hgh and maybe Boldenone since it doesn't cause hair loss. Thanks for the reply too

 

[Diddihippi09]

Not doing it for any bone growth or cope shit like that, I've been lifting for roughly 8 months, problem is i'm 6"5 so to get my ideal physique I'd need like 3-4 years (even then might not be enough), i'm also 20 so i'm purely doing this to accelerate my lifting journey so I can have peak SMV whilst im 21 instead of having to be a natty cuck, also did an aggresive cut before started lifting and it really fucked my hormones so I need that drive and mental clarity back asap. Should I wait until my second cycle to start var? It's probably the only other things I'd consider since I love the looks it gives besides that i'm pretty set on just running test/hgh and maybe Boldenone since it doesn't cause hair loss. Thanks for the reply too

Its pretty mild so you can already take it

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

bumppp

 

[fattofat]

njectable L-glut to pair with NAC as an antioxidant, def want to add this for the potential skin lightening and health benefits but its a bit expensive for the doses i'd want to do and idk i'd need a better source, will probs run when I have more money

100% recommend,

KPV - for inflammation, I feel like my main issue with my skin and scalp has always been inflammatory so maybe this would help? - seems like cope tho

Works but isn't magic

Am a bit concerned about the hyperkalemia risk when combining telmisartan and epelerenone, will doing frequent labs to monitor creatinine and potassium levels be enough to mitigate this, how often should I do labs for these or am I overthinking it?

You should be fine as long as you eat properly and such

For bloods planning to do them before starting trt dose, 5 weeks into blast, then every 2-3 months during, post blast, then like 1-2x a year when cruising, is this fine?

Yeah that fine

Also won't have dut until im blasting so when on trt dosage will 1mg fin be enough for any hair loss? will my collagen and shit be completely fine? ik it's just for 5 weeks on such a low dosage but i'm a paranoid fag

Different for everyone but 1mg of finasteride was enough for me. Yes your collagen and stuff should be fine.

HCG 500Iu weekly split 2x - should I do this eod instead? not fully sure on this

EOD would be better but not necessary

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

100% recommend,

Works but isn't magic

You should be fine as long as you eat properly and such

Yeah that fine

Different for everyone but 1mg of finasteride was enough for me. Yes your collagen and stuff should be fine.

EOD would be better but not necessary

Thank you for the reply bro. How would you dose l-glut? Would 500mg 1x week be fine if im on a bit of budget cause i've seen people reccomend like 500-1000mg a DAY so.

Also whats ur thoughts on rosuvastatin, unnecessary? And I was thinking of adding RU588 but seen how it can potentially fuck with your heart and bp, could I maybe just run it whilst blasting and stop when cruising being that i'll be on 2.5mg dut perma?

 

[fattofat]

How would you dose l-glut?

I would do 150mg eod

Would 500mg 1x week be fine if im on a bit of budget cause i've seen people reccomend like 500-1000mg a DAY so.

Yeah, that is enough 500mg-1g a day is basically only for skin lightening but 500mg a week is enough for liver health

Also whats ur thoughts on rosuvastatin, unnecessary?

Good but not needed, I had a spare 400mg of reta so that was helping my bloods

And I was thinking of adding RU588 but seen how it can potentially fuck with your heart and bp, could I maybe just run it whilst blasting and stop when cruising being that i'll be on 2.5mg dut perma?

You could do that

 

[HeavyMetalLover]

I would do 150mg eod

Yeah, that is enough 500mg-1g a day is basically only for skin lightening but 500mg a week is enough for liver health

Ah I see, this seems like a good dosage thanks, I'm half white so im like fitzpatrick 3 when healthy, u reckon this could this still lighten me a bit maybe to like a 2.5ish and help my undertones?, not looking for anything crazy.

Good but not needed, I had a spare 400mg of reta so that was helping my bloods

Damn bruh how you have a spare 400mg

 

[fattofat]

Ah I see, this seems like a good dosage thanks, I'm half white so im like fitzpatrick 3 when healthy, u reckon this could this still lighten me a bit maybe to like a 2.5ish and help my undertones?, not looking for anything crazy.

Possibly but highly unlikely, I'd just look into other treatments for skin lightening

Damn bruh how you have a spare 400mg

Bought 400mg when my Chinese lady was having a sale for $147