Starting to believe in God again

[Prøphet]

The more I think about human nature and suffering and history and even the metaphysics of reality itself the more I’m becoming convinced the Bible really is the word of Christ and He is real

 

[dışlanmış sub3]

The more I think about human nature and suffering and history and even the metaphysics of reality itself the more I’m becoming convinced the Bible really is the word of Christ and He is real

no proof

 

[quan1]

The more I think about human nature and suffering and history and even the metaphysics of reality itself the more I’m becoming convinced the Bible really is the word of Christ and He is real

can u make a thread

i lost my faith months ago but still claim im a christian for some reason

 

[Prøphet]

no proof

Inductive / empirical “proof” will only take you so far because it’s based on our limited observations

Rational proof works better and for a topic like God there is no rational proof one way or another if he exists or if he doesn’t

 

[tansel]

how can you believe in god when he gave you a life like this

 

[Prøphet]

can u make a thread

i lost my faith months ago but still claim im a christian for some reason

I’m too depressed and lazy but tell me why you lost faith

 

[esotericcuck]

The history of the Old Testament is weird which undermines my faith in Christ

 

[Prøphet]

how can you believe in god when he gave you a life like this

Because it’s just a test and the real life is what comes after, only in His afterlife can true equality, Justice, and love exist, free from our human nature

 

[quan1]

I’m too depressed and lazy but tell me why you lost faith

idk i js kinda did

i was born into a christian family and have been christian my whole life but now i js dont feel it

i cant really explain it well

 

[tansel]

Because it’s just a test and the real life is what comes after, only in His afterlife can true equality, Justice, and love exist, free from our human nature

i mean ig lol

the more blackpilled i got the less i stopped believing in god

 

[dışlanmış sub3]

how can you believe in god when he gave you a life like this

god is evil if he exists I would hate him rather than glazing him for guaranteed place in heaven

 

[cobicado901]

get well soon

 

[tansel]

god is evil if he exists I would hate him rather than glazing him for guaranteed place in heaven

 

[causeimight]

how can you believe in god when he gave you a life like this

delayed gratification

suffer now, be true Adam in heaven with uncountable amounts of women and anything you desire later

not a bad deal no?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

The more I think about human nature and suffering and history and even the metaphysics of reality itself the more I’m becoming convinced the Bible really is the word of Christ and He is real

Yep good. If you need any knowledge on verses and shit just ask me cos I’m the resident evangelist here

Matt 11:28-30
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in.

 

[Prøphet]

idk i js kinda did

i was born into a christian family and have been christian my whole life but now i js dont feel it

i cant really explain it well

I have the same story

I lost all faith around 11 or 12

And only now at 18 considering I was wrong

I lost faith because I thought a perfect all loving God could never allow so much evil and suffering, especially in my life

I felt abandoned by Him

And the classic Christian argument “Muh free will” was lazy to me

But now I think that the very concept of “evil” we think of is flawed because it originated from humans

What is evil? Evil is just what the news tells you is evil.

God explained morality to us in terms we could understand, He can’t put into language how he operates so He just tests how much we can follow Him instead

 

[tansel]

delayed gratification

suffer now, be true Adam in heaven with uncountable amounts of women and anything you desire later

not a bad deal no?

no

i have to spend around $25,000 to ascend, & that’s on top of the $17,000 i’ve already spent.

i want to ascend now not in 60 years

 

[1966Ford]

You're only believing in God because you can't cope with the nature of humans

 

[Prøphet]

i mean ig lol

the more blackpilled i got the less i stopped believing in god

I was the same

 

[sub1foidslayer]

The more I think about human nature and suffering and history and even the metaphysics of reality itself the more I’m becoming convinced the Bible really is the word of Christ and He is real

high iq

 

[tansel]

You're only believing in God because you can't cope with the nature of humans

dutch van der linde aah boy

 

[Prøphet]

You're only believing in God because you can't cope with the nature of humans

Believing in God doesnt negate any of that so it’s not really a cope

Actually Christians know more about human nature than the average atheist

 

[causeimight]

no

i have to spend around $25,000 to ascend, & that’s on top of the $17,000 i’ve already spent.

i want to ascend now not in 60 years

I never said not to ascend right now, you got a hand of cards by god and its up to you with how you play them

we will all die at some point. everything you do here will be gone

might aswell spend a little of your time each day securing your spot in heaven

 

[quan1]

I have the same story

I lost all faith around 11 or 12

And only now at 18 considering I was wrong

I lost faith because I thought a perfect all loving God could never allow so much evil and suffering, especially in my life

I felt abandoned by Him

And the classic Christian argument “Muh free will” was lazy to me

But now I think that the very concept of “evil” we think of is flawed because it originated from humans

What is evil? Evil is just what the news tells you is evil.

God explained morality to us in terms we could understand, He can’t put into language how he operates so He just tests how much we can follow Him instead

i understand all his principles and reasonings and if any argument came up against him i could probably argue it, for some reason i js dont have faith

im sure ill grow out of it and find him again when im older as im only 15

 

[Ruinedbyfaceshape]

I’m lowkey slowly turning agnostic

 

[1966Ford]

Believing in God doesnt negate any of that so it’s not really a cope

Actually Christians know more about human nature than the average atheist

Actual Christians do not know about nature. Their book the "Bible" does not resonate with biology at all, instead, it contradicts. All religion is mediocre at best

 

[Prøphet]

i understand all his principles and reasonings and if any argument came up against him i could probably argue it, for some reason i js dont have faith

im sure ill grow out of it and find him again when im older as im only 15

Apologetics or what they tell you at church won’t really convince you if you want to have faith I encourage you to look into philosophy so you can find out from a more objective and honest way

 

[quan1]

Apologetics or what they tell you at church won’t really convince you if you want to have faith I encourage you to look into philosophy so you can find out from a more objective and honest way

okay

thanks for the help

 

[tansel]

I never said not to ascend right now, you got a hand of cards by god and its up to you with how you play them

we will all die at some point. everything you do here will be gone

might aswell spend a little of your time each day securing your spot in heaven

i’ll start believing in god when i ascend

 

[ashmeer]

i mean ig lol

the more blackpilled i got the less i stopped believing in god

on a scale of 1-10, how gay are u for vasily?

 

[tansel]

on a scale of 1-10, how gay are u for vasily?

ur on a lookism forum asking why i like a psl god

just stfu

 

[ashmeer]

ur on a lookism forum asking why i like a psl god

just stfu

how is the weather in mumbai

 

[esotericcuck]

Actual Christians do not know about nature. Their book the "Bible" does not resonate with biology at all, instead, it contradicts. All religion is mediocre at best

This is cope

 

[tansel]

how is the weather in mumbai

i’m from cali

 

[Sujumh]

ever since a kid
i could never even when i forced myself believe in any religion
i doubt that'll ever change

 

[Peubert]

Inductive / empirical “proof” will only take you so far because it’s based on our limited observations

very high-iq

 

[Prøphet]

Actual Christians do not know about nature. Their book the "Bible" does not resonate with biology at all, instead, it contradicts. All religion is mediocre at best

I meant our nature as in how humans act

Science is so flawed lol it evaporates once you’re talking about a concept so infinite and grand and outside the system as God

 

[1966Ford]

I meant our nature as in how humans act

Science is so flawed lol it evaporates once you’re talking about a concept so infinite and grand and outside the system as God

Science overpowers Kikestianity

 

[esotericcuck]

Science overpowers Kikestianity

Modern science was started by christianity but you can keep coping

 

[1966Ford]

Modern science was started by christianity but you can keep coping

Just for science to prove God is not real

 

[Prøphet]

Science overpowers Kikestianity

It’s not like a competition anyways

Most of the greatest scientists were Christian

Science just explains replicable, material phenomena while Christianity explains the immaterial

 

[Prøphet]

Just for science to prove God is not real

When did that happen?

 

[esotericcuck]

Just for science to prove God is not real

Low iq take and inherently false

 

[bolvfr]

The more I think about human nature and suffering and history and even the metaphysics of reality itself the more I’m becoming convinced the Bible really is the word of Christ and He is real

I think you believe that god is good, so why did he create evil?

 

[Prøphet]

I think you believe that god is good, so why did he create evil?

Because it shapes us, tests us, and ultimately defines us

 

[bolvfr]

Because it shapes us, tests us, and ultimately defines us

but what about the things we can't control ? for example bone cancer for new born babies, imo that thing is really useless unless god want to torture innocent humans.

 

[Prøphet]

I think you believe that god is good, so why did he create evil?

Utilitarianism is the idea that we should make choices that maximize good and minimize evil

But the problem is that due to time, the ratio of good to evil consequences from an action will usually ebb back and forth on the pendulum as time continues

Look up “the farmer who lost his horse”

Since God exists outside of time only He is able to practice true utilitarianism

 

[Prøphet]

but what about the things we can't control ? for example bone cancer for new born babies, imo that thing is really useless unless god want to torture innocent humans.

I truly believe we can’t understand good and evil because of the limits of our reality and knowledge, like time and the human brain

What if the innocent person who got cancer would’ve died an atheist instead of becoming a believer? What if they took part in a trial where we developed a medication that advanced the species? We cant know what’s good and what’s evil because we can only pinpoint one moment in time to make the judgment, while God makes the judgment looking at Everything

 

[bolvfr]

I truly believe we can’t understand good and evil because of the limits of our reality and knowledge, like time and the human brain

What if the innocent person who got cancer would’ve died an atheist instead of becoming a believer? What if they took part in a trial where we developed a medication that advanced the species? We cant know what’s good and what’s evil because we can only pinpoint one moment in time to make the judgment, while God makes the judgment looking at Everything

you said what if that baby died as an atheist, I have two better alternatives first is not to create him from the first place, or second just give him a quick heart attack. I really wanna see your point on this

 

[Prøphet]

you said what if that baby died as an atheist, I have two better alternatives first is not to create him from the first place, or second just give him a quick heart attack. I really wanna see your point on this

If God allowed the scenario you originally proposed to happen, He did so because it would ultimately create the most favorable outcome. I know that sounds absolutely absurd and unacceptable for me to say, but that’s because we can’t actually judge what’s right and wrong. Our knowledge is finite and limited so any judgment that isn’t from God is flawed. The premises will never add up if it comes from our hands. Maybe tragedies happen exactly the way they do because of how it shapes our experiences / reactions / memories / narratives

But to truly explain why is impossible, because we don’t know enough for a completely sound argument