Stats of percentage of men marrying sub-HTB, and women marrying sub-HTN

[Deleted member 32485]

"stats" but each made up statistic starts with "perhaps".

 

[Xangsane]

"stats" but each made up statistic starts with "perhaps".

personal and observed anecdotes

 

[Whist]

MEN

1. Men Marrying Average-Looking Women with Previous Relationships ("roasties"): In the blackpill view, a hefty chunk of men, let's say around 60-70%, might end up with these women. The thinking is, as women look for stability and realize they can't all snag top-tier guys, they "settle" for average Joes.
2. Men Marrying Highly Attractive Women ("Stacies/Stacylites"): This is seen as a privilege of the top dogs, the elite 20%. These men are perceived to have the looks, status, or charm to attract these women, who are considered the cream of the crop.
3. Men Described as 'Genetic Dead Ends': The blackpill lingo suggests a good 30% or so of men might fall into this category, essentially sidelined in the dating game. They're seen as unable to compete due to perceived shortcomings.
4. Geomaxxing/SEAmaxxing: This could apply to a smaller segment, maybe around 5-10% of men, who find the dating scene in their home turf brutal and look for better odds in places like Southeast Asia, where they might have an advantage due to economic or cultural factors.

These numbers are speculative, of course.

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Let's profile the types of guys who typically end up with women in each of these categories, according to the blackpill lens:

1. Average-Looking Women with Previous Relationships ("roasties"): The typical guy here is Mr. Average – not at the top of the social hierarchy, but not at the bottom either. He's probably got a steady job, a decent personality, and is generally seen as a safe bet. He's the guy who values companionship and stability over chasing an idealized fantasy.
2. Highly Attractive Women ("Stacies/Stacylites"): Contrary to the blackpill's top 20% rule, in reality, these women often end up with a mix of guys. Sure, some are the classic Chads – good-looking, charismatic, maybe with a bit of an edge. But others are the successful, confident types or well-off oofie doofies who've got their life together. They might not be male model material, but they've got other qualities like intelligence, humor, and stability.
3. Men Described as 'Genetic Dead Ends': The blackpill would have you believe these guys are doomed to "LDAR" (lay down and rot). In real life, though, many of these guys do find partners. They're often the underdogs, the overlooked ones who might struggle with self-esteem or social skills. But many find someone who appreciates them for who they are beyond surface-level traits.
4. Geomaxxing/SEAmaxxing: These are the adventurers or the disillusioned. Often, they're average guys who haven't had much luck in their local dating scene and are looking for a place where they feel they have a comparative advantage. They might be drawn by the perceived lower standards or the exotic appeal of a different culture.

WOMEN

Here's a rough breakdown of the types of men women end up marrying, and the profiles of these women:

1. Marrying a Hot (Strong HTN+) Man: This is likely a smaller percentage, perhaps around 10-20% (@delonregen thinks 5%). The women who snag these guys are often quite attractive themselves, aligning with the idea of 'looks matching'. They might also have strong social skills, be in good physical shape, and present themselves well.
2. Marrying a Betabuxxer (Average Looking or Below Man with a Stable Job): This could be the most common scenario, maybe around 40-50%. These women might range from average to above-average in attractiveness. They prioritize stability, security, and perhaps a family-oriented lifestyle over raw physical attraction. They might be pragmatic about their dating choices, focusing on long-term security over short-term passion.
3. Becoming Cat Women (Remaining Single): Perhaps around 10-15% of women might end up in this category. These women could be highly independent, career-focused, or they may have very high standards that are not easily met. This group might also include those who have become disillusioned with relationships or prefer a solitary lifestyle.
4. Marrying a Rich, Average-Looking, Upper-Class Man: Let's say around 20-30%. These women are often very strategic in their approach to relationships. They may place a high value on social status, financial security, and the lifestyle that comes with it. They might be attractive, but they’re more focused on securing a comfortable and affluent lifestyle than on finding a physically attractive partner.

In the blackpilled view, these scenarios are heavily influenced by factors like physical attractiveness, socio-economic status, and strategic decision-making in relationships.

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In the blackpilled perspective, the phenomenon of most "Stacies" (highly attractive women) marrying men from category 4 (rich, average-looking, upper-class men) rather than category 1 (hot, strong HTN+ men) can be explained through a few key ideas:

1. Hypergamy and Social Status: The blackpill often emphasizes hypergamy, where women are believed to seek out partners of higher social or economic status. A rich, average-looking man offers stability, security, and a high social standing, which are highly valued in this viewpoint.
2. Long-Term Security Over Short-Term Attraction: While a hot, strong HTN+ man might offer immediate physical attraction, the blackpill suggests that women, especially those deemed as "Stacies", will prioritize long-term security and comfort. An upper-class man, even if average-looking, is perceived as a better provider for long-term needs, like raising a family and maintaining a high standard of living.
3. The Limited Pool of Attractive, High-Status Men: The blackpill also acknowledges a practical limitation - there aren't enough men who are both incredibly attractive (HTN+) and rich/upper-class. Therefore, Stacies might opt for the more available option that still meets a high standard in terms of resources and status.
4. Strategic Mating Choices: From a blackpill perspective, Stacies are seen as making highly strategic mating choices. They might find a rich, average-looking man to be a better overall package, offering both the resources and the willingness to commit, which might not always be the case with highly attractive men.
5. Balancing the Dating Market Dynamics: In this view, attractive men (HTN+) might be more inclined towards non-committal relationships, given their high desirability. Therefore, Stacies might choose rich, average-looking men for a more stable, committed partnership.

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In the blackpill view, the idea that highly attractive men (HTN+) often end up with high-tier Beckies (HTBs) or entry-level Stacylites, rather than top-tier Stacies, can be explained by a few key concepts:

1. Perceived Compatibility and Effort: Highly attractive men might find that high-tier Beckies or entry-level Stacylites are more approachable and require less effort to maintain a relationship with. These women might be seen as more appreciative and less demanding compared to top-tier Stacies.
2. Avoidance of Competition and Drama: Top-tier Stacies, due to their high desirability, might attract a lot of attention and competition from other high-status men. HTN+ men might prefer to avoid this competition and potential drama by choosing partners who are attractive but not at the pinnacle of societal beauty standards.
3. Relationship Dynamics: HTBs or entry-level Stacylites might offer a more balanced dynamic in the relationship. These women could be perceived as more loyal, less likely to stray, and more invested in the relationship, compared to top-tier Stacies who have more options.
4. Availability and Numbers Game: Simply put, there are more HTBs and entry-level Stacylites available than top-tier Stacies. This greater availability increases the likelihood of HTN+ men pairing up with them.
5. Personal Preferences and Individual Variability: Even within the blackpill framework, it's acknowledged that personal preferences play a role. Some HTN+ men might genuinely prefer the company of HTBs or entry-level Stacylites, finding them more compatible in terms of personality, interests, or life goals.

This is actually legit af.

 

[Whist]

Thanks, do you actually think men or women have it harder?

Men cause some are forever alone. Personally, I will get an arranged marriage with looksmax worst come to worst so in reality its fine. I also come from an upper middle class trad family with multiple properties and lots of savings and stocks. So in a way blackpill isn't just looks its whole ass upbringing and background. Women can deadass just date a rich dude. Men actually have to work.

 

[Xangsane]

Men cause some are forever alone. Personally, I will get an arranged marriage with looksmax worst come to worst so in reality its fine. I also come from an upper middle class trad family with multiple properties and lots of savings and stocks. So in a way blackpill isn't just looks its whole ass upbringing and background. Women can deadass just date a rich dude. Men actually have to work.

And foids actually feel disgusted by older hen these days

 

[Xangsane]

This is actually legit af.

Thanks, why?

 

[Hamdan]

MEN

1. Men Marrying Average-Looking Women with Previous Relationships ("roasties"): In the blackpill view, a hefty chunk of men, let's say around 60-70%, might end up with these women. The thinking is, as women look for stability and realize they can't all snag top-tier guys, they "settle" for average Joes.
2. Men Marrying Highly Attractive Women ("Stacies/Stacylites"): This is seen as a privilege of the top dogs, the elite 20%. These men are perceived to have the looks, status, or charm to attract these women, who are considered the cream of the crop.
3. Men Described as 'Genetic Dead Ends': The blackpill lingo suggests a good 30% or so of men might fall into this category, essentially sidelined in the dating game. They're seen as unable to compete due to perceived shortcomings.
4. Geomaxxing/SEAmaxxing: This could apply to a smaller segment, maybe around 5-10% of men, who find the dating scene in their home turf brutal and look for better odds in places like Southeast Asia, where they might have an advantage due to economic or cultural factors.

These numbers are speculative, of course.

---

Let's profile the types of guys who typically end up with women in each of these categories, according to the blackpill lens:

1. Average-Looking Women with Previous Relationships ("roasties"): The typical guy here is Mr. Average – not at the top of the social hierarchy, but not at the bottom either. He's probably got a steady job, a decent personality, and is generally seen as a safe bet. He's the guy who values companionship and stability over chasing an idealized fantasy.
2. Highly Attractive Women ("Stacies/Stacylites"): Contrary to the blackpill's top 20% rule, in reality, these women often end up with a mix of guys. Sure, some are the classic Chads – good-looking, charismatic, maybe with a bit of an edge. But others are the successful, confident types or well-off oofie doofies who've got their life together. They might not be male model material, but they've got other qualities like intelligence, humor, and stability.
3. Men Described as 'Genetic Dead Ends': The blackpill would have you believe these guys are doomed to "LDAR" (lay down and rot). In real life, though, many of these guys do find partners. They're often the underdogs, the overlooked ones who might struggle with self-esteem or social skills. But many find someone who appreciates them for who they are beyond surface-level traits.
4. Geomaxxing/SEAmaxxing: These are the adventurers or the disillusioned. Often, they're average guys who haven't had much luck in their local dating scene and are looking for a place where they feel they have a comparative advantage. They might be drawn by the perceived lower standards or the exotic appeal of a different culture.

WOMEN

Here's a rough breakdown of the types of men women end up marrying, and the profiles of these women:

1. Marrying a Hot (Strong HTN+) Man: This is likely a smaller percentage, perhaps around 10-20% (@delonregen thinks 5%). The women who snag these guys are often quite attractive themselves, aligning with the idea of 'looks matching'. They might also have strong social skills, be in good physical shape, and present themselves well.
2. Marrying a Betabuxxer (Average Looking or Below Man with a Stable Job): This could be the most common scenario, maybe around 40-50%. These women might range from average to above-average in attractiveness. They prioritize stability, security, and perhaps a family-oriented lifestyle over raw physical attraction. They might be pragmatic about their dating choices, focusing on long-term security over short-term passion.
3. Becoming Cat Women (Remaining Single): Perhaps around 10-15% of women might end up in this category. These women could be highly independent, career-focused, or they may have very high standards that are not easily met. This group might also include those who have become disillusioned with relationships or prefer a solitary lifestyle.
4. Marrying a Rich, Average-Looking, Upper-Class Man: Let's say around 20-30%. These women are often very strategic in their approach to relationships. They may place a high value on social status, financial security, and the lifestyle that comes with it. They might be attractive, but they’re more focused on securing a comfortable and affluent lifestyle than on finding a physically attractive partner.

In the blackpilled view, these scenarios are heavily influenced by factors like physical attractiveness, socio-economic status, and strategic decision-making in relationships.

---

In the blackpilled perspective, the phenomenon of most "Stacies" (highly attractive women) marrying men from category 4 (rich, average-looking, upper-class men) rather than category 1 (hot, strong HTN+ men) can be explained through a few key ideas:

1. Hypergamy and Social Status: The blackpill often emphasizes hypergamy, where women are believed to seek out partners of higher social or economic status. A rich, average-looking man offers stability, security, and a high social standing, which are highly valued in this viewpoint.
2. Long-Term Security Over Short-Term Attraction: While a hot, strong HTN+ man might offer immediate physical attraction, the blackpill suggests that women, especially those deemed as "Stacies", will prioritize long-term security and comfort. An upper-class man, even if average-looking, is perceived as a better provider for long-term needs, like raising a family and maintaining a high standard of living.
3. The Limited Pool of Attractive, High-Status Men: The blackpill also acknowledges a practical limitation - there aren't enough men who are both incredibly attractive (HTN+) and rich/upper-class. Therefore, Stacies might opt for the more available option that still meets a high standard in terms of resources and status.
4. Strategic Mating Choices: From a blackpill perspective, Stacies are seen as making highly strategic mating choices. They might find a rich, average-looking man to be a better overall package, offering both the resources and the willingness to commit, which might not always be the case with highly attractive men.
5. Balancing the Dating Market Dynamics: In this view, attractive men (HTN+) might be more inclined towards non-committal relationships, given their high desirability. Therefore, Stacies might choose rich, average-looking men for a more stable, committed partnership.

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In the blackpill view, the idea that highly attractive men (HTN+) often end up with high-tier Beckies (HTBs) or entry-level Stacylites, rather than top-tier Stacies, can be explained by a few key concepts:

1. Perceived Compatibility and Effort: Highly attractive men might find that high-tier Beckies or entry-level Stacylites are more approachable and require less effort to maintain a relationship with. These women might be seen as more appreciative and less demanding compared to top-tier Stacies.
2. Avoidance of Competition and Drama: Top-tier Stacies, due to their high desirability, might attract a lot of attention and competition from other high-status men. HTN+ men might prefer to avoid this competition and potential drama by choosing partners who are attractive but not at the pinnacle of societal beauty standards.
3. Relationship Dynamics: HTBs or entry-level Stacylites might offer a more balanced dynamic in the relationship. These women could be perceived as more loyal, less likely to stray, and more invested in the relationship, compared to top-tier Stacies who have more options.
4. Availability and Numbers Game: Simply put, there are more HTBs and entry-level Stacylites available than top-tier Stacies. This greater availability increases the likelihood of HTN+ men pairing up with them.
5. Personal Preferences and Individual Variability: Even within the blackpill framework, it's acknowledged that personal preferences play a role. Some HTN+ men might genuinely prefer the company of HTBs or entry-level Stacylites, finding them more compatible in terms of personality, interests, or life goals.

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[Xangsane]

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