steroidcels i have many questions

[Lev Peshkov]

so i still pplan on tren and other supressive shit

however i plan on cruisng t for 9 months after

then when i enlist i will have done pct

will the pct work?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

BUMPPPP

 

[Deleted member 7012]

Nigga all your threads are about steroids and shit just inject that shit up your ass already and see what happens

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Nigga all your threads are about steroids and shit just inject that shit up your ass already and see what happens

Joined May 17, 2020

still gaycel

 

[Deleted member 7012]

Joined May 17, 2020

still gaycel

Inject t ASAP son

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Inject t ASAP son

tren.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

so i still pplan on tren and other supressive shit

however i plan on cruisng t for 9 months after

then when i enlist i will have done pct

will the pct work?

fuck no
you will permanently shut yourself down

 

[Lev Peshkov]

fuck no
you will permanently shut yourself down

fr? over

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

fr? over

yeah man happens all the time to fully developed guys on trt
let alone a 16 year old

 

[Lev Peshkov]

yeah man happens all the time to fully developed guys on trt
let alone a 16 year old

brutal so i just ride out what 7 months of supression?

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

brutal so i just ride out what 7 months of supression?

sorry wym?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

sorry wym?

tren supresses like 7 months i was planniong cruising to prevent low t side effects

 

[Conspiracy]

tren on its own? Goes to show you know absolutely NOTHING. Have a testosterone base fucktard and for your first cycle test only fucktard. You have high T under your name yet you want to roidmaxx what a fucktard. Also fucktard just inject it already you fucking fucktard beta fucktard.

oh and lastly fucktard you dont take test or tren or whatever you are saying to prevent temporary low t effects after coming off you complete fucktard. That will just prolong the inevitable you really are a big fucktard and you have so much research to do instead of taking advice from people who know nothing go on actual steroids forums or take my advice only over anyone elses here.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

tren on its own? Goes to show you know absolutely NOTHING. Have a testosterone base fucktard and for your first cycle test only fucktard. You have high T under your name yet you want to roidmaxx what a fucktard. Also fucktard just inject it already you fucking fucktard beta fucktard.

imagine thinking im doing it to bulk up fucktard

im doing tren alone as i dont wann aget to aronokschwarsnigger size beta fucktard

and i want it for facial gains also fuctard

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

tren supresses like 7 months i was planniong cruising to prevent low t side effects

if your hpa axis is suppressed for 7 months it will stunt your development
man this is genuinely insane to think 8 weeks of tren will provide over 7 months worth of development
don't do this shit

 

[Lev Peshkov]

if your hpa axis is suppressed for 7 months it will stunt your development
man this is genuinely insane to think 8 weeks of tren will provide over 7 months worth of development
don't do this shit

fuck it cruising for 7 months on a low base

 

[Conspiracy]

imagine thinking im doing it to bulk up fucktard

im doing tren alone as i dont wann aget to aronokschwarsnigger size beta fucktard

and i want it for facial gains also fuctard

Tren alone for less gains? Tren is 5x stronger than test you absolute fucktard shit. Also as I said you need a base of test. Also there are a shit ton more possible sides with tren you absolute fucktard. Seriously rope because roids arent for idiots like you. You wont even be able to inject it you fucktard.

and you are cruising tren for 7 MONTHS? BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH do it

@Good_Little_Goy

just let him do it this fucktard needs to learn the hard way

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

fuck it cruising for 7 months on a low base

good luck man but it will stunt your t levels for life guaranteed
try hcg at least?

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Tren alone for less gains? Tren is 5x stronger than test you absolute fucktard shit. Also as I said you need a base of test. Also there are a shit ton more possible sides with tren you absolute fucktard. Seriously rope because roids arent for idiots like you. You wont even be able to inject it you fucktard.

and you are cruising tren for 7 MONTHS? BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH do it

@Good_Little_Goy

just let him do it this fucktard needs to learn the hard way

he's not running tren for 7 months, he's doing like an 8-12 week cycle of tren, followed by 7 months of trt
I've tried telling him it makes no sense but he's 16 man he will fuck himself up

@Lev Peshkov I have to go man but seriously think this through, you will likely need to be on trt after

 

[Conspiracy]

your 16? get the fuck off this site and forget steroids completely. It will achieve nothing. You are in your prime right now really as far as test levels so wait until you are old with low T then blast a shit ton of test. Also forget all this looksmaxxing shit at 16. Get offline. Do your best with what you know already and use it to your advantage. Go and try get laid etc before you end up a basement dwelling 20-30 year old with no ability to pick up women. Practice offline and actually climb the social ladder instead if you want real success.

@Lev Peshkov

 

[Lev Peshkov]

your 16? get the fuck off this site and forget steroids completely. It will achieve nothing. You are in your prime right now really as far as test levels so wait until you are old with low T then blast a shit ton of test. Also forget all this looksmaxxing shit at 16. Get offline. Do your best with what you know already and use it to your advantage. Go and try get laid etc before you end up a basement dwelling 20-30 year old with no ability to pick up women. Practice offline and actually climb the social ladder instead if you want real success.

@Lev Peshkov

Cope im khhv

 

[Serial Coomer]

Exactly

What are your stats?
All i thought when i was 16 is when was skyrim coming out.
I would leave it natural for these 5 years if i was you unless you are 200% trucel

 

[imparatorluk]

Nigga all your threads are about steroids and shit just inject that shit up your ass already and see what happens

Right.
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I FUCKİNG HATE YOU. YOU ARE ALWAYS SAYING IM GONNA INJECT TREN. SO SHUT YOURM FUCKİNG MOUTH AND INJECT YOUR STEROIDS İDİOT. I M SURE TREN WILL MAKE YOu CHAD.

 

[imparatorluk]

16 year old boy gives us a looksmax advice: inject tren. I am sad for your parents. You single digit iq.

 

[Chad69]

Ive already told you
You can’t use tren on its own
You need a test base

 

[Chad69]

fuck it cruising for 7 months on a low base

Bro
Thats insane
You shouldn’t go for more than 8-12 weeks on tren,especially 7 months!
If you decide to do that shit you are going to have some serious consequences through your whole life
Just use it for 8weeks + test base and then use hcg for the last 4 weeks and after that continue using hcg but add Nolvadex,also dont forget to use the caber through your whole cycle to prevent gyno

 

[Lev Peshkov]

What are your stats?
All i thought when i was 16 is when was skyrim coming out.
I would leave it natural for these 5 years if i was you unless you are 200% trucel

Nolvadex preventing shutdown during cycle - AnabolicMinds.com

Study shows increase in FSH while taking 40 mg test undec + tamoxifen. most of the time FSH and LH move in relation. has anyone done a mild cycle with nolva during? any experiences? Study: The combination of testosterone undecanoate with tamoxifen citrate enhances the effects of each agent...

anabolicminds.com

this should keep supression

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Bro
Thats insane
You shouldn’t go for more than 8-12 weeks on tren,especially 7 months!
If you decide to do that shit you are going to have some serious consequences through your whole life
Just use it for 8weeks + test base and then use hcg for the last 4 weeks and after that continue using hcg but add Nolvadex,also dont forget to use the caber through your whole cycle to prevent gyno

no i mean cruise t for 7 months after lol

i will use this protocol

Nolvadex preventing shutdown during cycle - AnabolicMinds.com

Study shows increase in FSH while taking 40 mg test undec + tamoxifen. most of the time FSH and LH move in relation. has anyone done a mild cycle with nolva during? any experiences? Study: The combination of testosterone undecanoate with tamoxifen citrate enhances the effects of each agent...

anabolicminds.com

on cycle and after to regain natural t and prevent hpta axis from going er

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Ive already told you
You can’t use tren on its own
You need a test base

test base why?

it doesnt prevent shutdown jfl

 

[recessed]

esketiit gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang

 

[Chad69]

test base why?

it doesnt prevent shutdown jfl

It does
Unless you wanna have ED for the LOOOOONG ASS time,I suggest you to go with the low test base
Nothing crazy,just 200mg twice a week

 

[Lev Peshkov]

It does
Unless you wanna have ED for the LOOOOONG ASS time,I suggest you to go with the low test base
Nothing crazy,just 200mg twice a week

studies

also i will do this

Nolvadex preventing shutdown during cycle - AnabolicMinds.com

Study shows increase in FSH while taking 40 mg test undec + tamoxifen. most of the time FSH and LH move in relation. has anyone done a mild cycle with nolva during? any experiences? Study: The combination of testosterone undecanoate with tamoxifen citrate enhances the effects of each agent...

anabolicminds.com

what do you think about this?

 

[Bewusst]

You want to take steroids for 9 months during puberty and then come off for good? And you seriously believe this is gonna make your face more masculine? I smell strong cope here

 

[Lev Peshkov]

You want to take steroids for 9 months during puberty and then come off for good? And you seriously believe this is gonna make your face more masculine? I smell strong cope here

Androgens and estrogens in skeletal sexual dimorphism

Bone is an endocrine tissue expressing androgen and estrogen receptors as well as steroid metabolizing enzymes. The bioactivity of circulating sex steroids is modulated by sex hormone-binding globulin and local conversion in bone tissue, for example, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

tren means youll have to blastn cruise for lifetime also say gbay to your neurons

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

your 16? get the fuck off this site and forget steroids completely. It will achieve nothing. You are in your prime right now really as far as test levels so wait until you are old with low T then blast a shit ton of test. Also forget all this looksmaxxing shit at 16. Get offline. Do your best with what you know already and use it to your advantage. Go and try get laid etc before you end up a basement dwelling 20-30 year old with no ability to pick up women. Practice offline and actually climb the social ladder instead if you want real success.

@Lev Peshkov

nigga im 17yo baldcel and i have 400ng dl natty T

 

[Deleted member 2756]

you're a fucktard.

 

[Cares]

Coming from the same dickhead trying to give others steroid advice and still knows _nothing_

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

And you seriously believe this is gonna make your face more masculine?

I mean it should a little bit, but he’s got this idea that because tren is ’5 times more androgenic‘ than test, it will give him dimorphism 5 times as quickly, so a 12 week tren cycle will give him 60 weeks worth of high t puberty in terms of dimorphism essentially. But there‘s just no science to back it up. And when he finishes the cycle his face will have not changed noticeably, and that’s gonna be trash for his mental state.

@Lev Peshkov at least hop on smt like dsip and arimistane for now, you’re running out of time where pubertymaxxing works, the effects will already be severely limited starting well past 16 as opposed to 13-14

 

[Lev Peshkov]

I mean it should a little bit, but he’s got this idea that because tren is ’5 times more androgenic‘ than test, it will give him dimorphism 5 times as quickly, so a 12 week tren cycle will give him 60 weeks worth of high t puberty in terms of dimorphism essentially. But there‘s just no science to back it up. And when he finishes the cycle his face will have not changed noticeably, and that’s gonna be trash for his mental state.

@Lev Peshkov at least hop on smt like dsip and arimistane for now, you’re running out of time where pubertymaxxing works, the effects will already be severely limited starting well past 16 as opposed to 13-14

Im not saying its gonna change my face 5x more than t jfl

Im just saying bladting high doses of andrigens for a while then cruising t afterwards to fake high t will 100% change my face

But for example look at tren jaw and hoe it i creaes fwhr and gives hollows and briw ridge in adults no less

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Coming from the same dickhead trying to give others steroid advice and still knows _nothing_

Jfl if u think i care about your opinion

 

[Lev Peshkov]

tren means youll have to blastn cruise for lifetime also say gbay to your neurons

Tbh

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Im not saying its gonna change my face 5x more than t jfl

Im just saying bladting high doses of andrigens for a while then cruising t afterwards to fake high t will 100% change my face

But for example look at tren jaw and hoe it i creaes fwhr and gives hollows and briw ridge in adults no less

Nigga thats what you told me before

“Tren has 5x the amount of androgen

So it will take a fith of the time test would take

For example a 12 week tren cycle = having 1 year of high t for Dimorphism”

thats a lev peshkov quote

but tren jaw is muscle changes man, masseters are very androgen sensitive

and adolescent testosterone levels only explain 8-13% of variance in fwhr, I can source that man, thats barely anything starting at 16

fwhr increases with age so you might see bodybuilders getting wider faces as they age, but its not the tren man, adult t levels have no effect on facial masculinity.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Nigga thats what you told me before

“Tren has 5x the amount of androgen

So it will take a fith of the time test would take

For example a 12 week tren cycle = having 1 year of high t for Dimorphism”

thats a lev peshkov quote

but tren jaw is muscle changes man, masseters are very androgen sensitive

and adolescent testosterone levels only explain 8-13% of variance in fwhr, I can source that man, thats barely anything starting at 16

fwhr increases with age so you might see bodybuilders getting wider faces as they age, but its not the tren man, adult t levels have no effect on facial masculinity.

Ik, im still a teen and in puberty

When i say the body builders who have the effects it is because they are youbg in their 20s i have never seen steroid chnage face over 30

Next i mean the hugjer the androgens the more effective it is in a shorter time frame

Just look st people who deleop tren jaw as a referencr

And dont worry, i have 100% considered this and will cruise

I have a protocol to try and keep ny htpa axis workibg
https://anabolicminds.com/community/threads/nolvadex-preventing-shutdown-during-cycle.307043/

And after crusining i hesr it is possible
to actually get to baseline after trt

Also im not an idiot lol

If i ibject i know i will have to cruise and pray natural comes back

But while there is even a trace of 19-nors i will be supressed

I cant have this in puberty

So i will use home trt and then after 7-9 mo ths come off (besr in mind i will use nolva on cycle)

Post cycle i will use hcg, hmg, nolva and clomid (overkill i know, broscienced it here but i pray it acts as doible down)

So then for the military i have baseline testosterone or in a good range

Then i know i will have to cruise for life

Its unavoidable ngl

Edit: glad u can talk to me about this, i wanna look at the pros and cons before i do this

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Ik, im still a teen and in puberty

When i say the body builders who have the effects it is because they are youbg in their 20s i have never seen steroid chnage face over 30

Next i mean the hugjer the androgens the more effective it is in a shorter time frame

Just look st people who deleop tren jaw as a referencr

And dont worry, i have 100% considered this and will cruise

I have a protocol to try and keep ny htpa axis workibg
https://anabolicminds.com/community/threads/nolvadex-preventing-shutdown-during-cycle.307043/

And after crusining i hesr it is possible
to actually get to baseline after trt

Also im not an idiot lol

If i ibject i know i will have to cruise and pray natural comes back

But while there is even a trace of 19-nors i will be supressed

I cant have this in puberty

So i will use home trt and then after 7-9 mo ths come off (besr in mind i will use nolva on cycle)

Post cycle i will use hcg, hmg, nolva and clomid (overkill i know, broscienced it here but i pray it acts as doible down)

So then for the military i have baseline testosterone or in a good range

Then i know i will have to cruise for life

Its unavoidable ngl

Edit: glad u can talk to me about this, i wanna look at the pros and cons before i do this

The thing about tren jaw is that facial muscles and certain adipose tissues are very androgen sensitive, I’ve read testimonials of guys in their 20s saying tren changed their face but it was all muscle and faded after the cycle ended.

I’m not saying you’re an idiot but I think you’re really overestimating the effects that tren is gonna have on your face, with these facial tren transformations, you’re assuming that these changes are because of tren, with no proof like that insta model, that those changes are permanent, and that you yourself can achieve these changes but these are massive assumptions and I don’t want it to blow up in your face.

try not to use trt after as it will only delay and maybe even fully prevent your test coming back.

and using hmg and hcg with clomid and novla doesn’t make sense.

the first two disrupt your hpa axis and the latter two are used to restart it, stick to clomid and novla please, they should be enough.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

The thing about tren jaw is that facial muscles and certain adipose tissues are very androgen sensitive, I’ve read testimonials of guys in their 20s saying tren changed their face but it was all muscle and faded after the cycle ended.

I’m not saying you’re and idiot but I think you’re really overestimating the effects that tren is gonna have on your face, with these facial tren transformations, you’re assuming that these changes are because of tren, with no proof like that insta model, that those changes are permanent, and that you yourself can achieve these changes but these are massive assumptions and I don’t want it to blow up in your face.

try not to use trt after as it will only delay and maybe even fully prevent your test coming back.

and using hmg and hcg with clomid and novla doesn’t make sense.

the first two disrupt your hpa axis and the latter two are used to restart it, stick to clomid and novla please, they should be enough.

U sure? About the last part? That sounds good.

And yes i 100% understand where you are coming from.

Infact thats what i thought in the start lol.

However after rewlly looking into it and stufying it since i think may 2020

I have come to the conclusion that androgens affect the bones and the actual
Bones ie mandible and zygo bones

Also hollows.

And dinorphism is caused by andrigens. I have libked a study somewhere. And theoritically blasting high levels of andrigens then cruising a less andrigen but still a powerful one (t) will defitely help shape face for the better

And ofc its got ither benefits too lol

Body for sure, voice (it deepens it), and military training.

But u are right about the tren jaw beibg muscle due to masseter however a study sjowed steroid fhanged the bones also permanenlty.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

U sure? About the last part? That sounds good.

about the hcg thing?
yeah hcg suppresses LH, only use it on cycle, never as a pct.

I have come to the conclusion that androgens affect the bones and the actual
Bones ie mandible and zygo bones

Also hollows.

And dinorphism is caused by andrigens. I have libked a study somewhere. And theoritically blasting high levels of andrigens then cruising a less andrigen but still a powerful one (t) will defitely help shape face for the better

If you do this, you will get more dimorphism but I just think you could go about it in a better way, there’s alot of unnecessary risk with what you’re doing.

realistically neither of us know how much dimorphism you will get but development of facial dimorphism slows down alot after 16 man, I don’t think you’re gonna get the results that you want.

voice should be good tbh, I think that’s more puberty related than bones

link me the studys you mention and I might be able to help with your cycle.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

about the hcg thing?
yeah hcg suppresses LH, only use it on cycle, never as a pct.


If you do this, you will get more dimorphism but I just think you could go about it in a better way, there’s alot of unnecessary risk with what you’re doing.

realistically neither of us know how much dimorphism you will get but development of facial dimorphism slows down alot after 16 man, I don’t think you’re gonna get the results that you want.

link me the studys you mention and I might be able to help with your cycle.

Sure thing

SNPs Associated With Testosterone Levels Influence Human Facial Morphology

Many factors influence human facial morphology, including genetics, age, nutrition, biomechanical forces, and endocrine factors. Moreover, facial features clearly differ between males and females, and these differences are driven primarily by the influence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Androgens and estrogens in skeletal sexual dimorphism

Bone is an endocrine tissue expressing androgen and estrogen receptors as well as steroid metabolizing enzymes. The bioactivity of circulating sex steroids is modulated by sex hormone-binding globulin and local conversion in bone tissue, for example, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here are the most importsnt ones

 

[Bewusst]

Op, look at this moreplatesmoredates guy from YouTube. He probably took every steroid under the sun for years, yet his face still looks like this:

Stop coping. Steroids alone won‘t do shit if your genes aren‘t there. The most you could possibly expect is more bone density which has zero effects on your outer appearance. If you’re lucky and chew like a retard you’ll maybe get a temporary .0001% increase in masseter size. Chances are tho that you‘re going to look worse due to elevated estradiol (testosterone) and prolactin (tren).
The only significantly masculinizing effects apart from invisible bone changes you might actually expect are more body hair, muscle growth and maybe voice deepening/thicker vocal chords.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Sure thing

SNPs Associated With Testosterone Levels Influence Human Facial Morphology

Many factors influence human facial morphology, including genetics, age, nutrition, biomechanical forces, and endocrine factors. Moreover, facial features clearly differ between males and females, and these differences are driven primarily by the influence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Androgens and estrogens in skeletal sexual dimorphism

Bone is an endocrine tissue expressing androgen and estrogen receptors as well as steroid metabolizing enzymes. The bioactivity of circulating sex steroids is modulated by sex hormone-binding globulin and local conversion in bone tissue, for example, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here are the most importsnt ones

I mean the one about blasting a powerful androgen then a lesser one. And about steroids permanently changing bone.

I’ve read those but the snp one is mostly trying to tie specific genetic variants to changes in mandible shape and fwhr rather that looking at how testosterone effects dimorphism.