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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

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After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

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If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

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#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:

Oxytocin can have antisocial effects, if antisociality provides benefits for offspring, in-group members, or reproductive partners (Beery 2015).

N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

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#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for, scrawny/fatty boy.

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After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

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#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for, scrawny/fatty boy.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
our lord is doing a great thread again its an honor to even be able to write something in your thread comment section master:love:may we ban all the fag and foids of our beautiful kindom to make it the most beautiful place for us :love:
 
@Draak77 new jonas thread on roids gtfih
 
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Dnr yet but seems wow


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agreed natty lifters are like lesbians who don’t use strapons.
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for, scrawny/fatty boy.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
why are you aiming to use 700mg of test and 400mg of tren?
 
Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for, scrawny/fatty boy.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
there evidence about dutasteride nuking your sperm count even after you hop off it - its important to make people aware of this

Also the claim DHT doesnt have any benefits is false- it aids in forming secondary charectristics like voice deepening and dick size.
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for, scrawny/fatty boy.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
Thanks brother ill cope with this if my heightmaxxing doesnt work out
 
Same guy who told me not to pin test for months
 
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Mashallah nice thread akhi
 
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Mirin, will read later but thank you! I literally was thinking yesterday if there’s any good roid guides on here
 
Mirin really high iq. Im saving it till I moneymaxxed and can hop on
Did you hop on yet?
nah i do actually wanna hit 100 bench naturally icl :owo::owo:

then im hopping on because i dont care

it would just be gay as fuck not hitting the milestone beforehand
 
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nah i do actually wanna hit 100 bench naturally icl :owo::owo:

then im hopping on because i dont care

it would just be gay as fuck not hitting the milestone beforehand
takes a year tops to bench 100 natty if you really wanted it
 
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Can I just ask, I alr take fin, if I’m gonna start roids or jsut test, should I jsut switch to DUT?
 
Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
What about tren? What are your opinions on it?
 
DNR just blast without sides.

Good thread though.
 
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takes a year tops to bench 100 natty if you really wanted it
spent most my time in the gym learning how to overcome an eating disorder so im getting there now :lul:
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
I would take steroids if I knew how to not get infertile, bold, bloated and age faster
 
nah i do actually wanna hit 100 bench naturally icl :owo::owo:

then im hopping on because i dont care

it would just be gay as fuck not hitting the milestone beforehand
Not really:lul:
You have one year to reach that goal nigga or I’m gonna reach it before you
 
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Not really:lul:
You have one year to reach that goal nigga or I’m gonna reach it before you
i should reach it within a couple months from now tbf
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

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#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
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there evidence about dutasteride nuking your sperm count even after you hop off it - its important to make people aware of this

Also the claim DHT doesnt have any benefits is false- it aids in forming secondary charectristics like voice deepening and dick size.
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thanks bro and yeah my diet is pretty decent now

eating usually 500 to 800g of beef a day
are you on creatine? no point in pinning if youve barely unlocked your natty potential
 
are you on creatine? no point in pinning if youve barely unlocked your natty potential
i figure theres no point pinning if i cant be sure i know how to workout properly

if im making sub par progress natty then theres no point going on gear just to make sub par gear progress
 
Also the claim DHT doesnt have any benefits is false- it aids in forming secondary charectristics like voice deepening and dick size.
I respect u bro but DHT is not a useful hormone past 16-18
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

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After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacokinetics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

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If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

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#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor of glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher dosages of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (=red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
mirin.. those kind of threads are what were here for
 
I respect u bro but DHT is not a useful hormone past 16-18
youre probally right about the DHT part. Having ur voice slighty deepen at the cost of norwood 3 is dumb
 
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i figure theres no point pinning if i cant be sure i know how to workout properly

if im making sub par progress natty then theres no point going on gear just to make sub par gear progress
hopping on gear grants you muscle even if you don't/barely workout, look at clav for example

making subpar progress doesn't mean your not working out properly, do what you enjoy best
 
hopping on gear grants you muscle even if you don't/barely workout, look at clav for example

making subpar progress doesn't mean your not working out properly, do what you enjoy best
i get that but for me there is no point spending money and health on roids just to not be maxxing it out
 
yeh good idea lets make all these kids infertile by 20:DANKIES:

That's how you eliminate the competition. Even a tall chad that becomes infertile no longer has the same value. What can we say then even about the average dude? :FeelsPepoSpin:

Everything in life has a price, nothing is free. If there were no problems, steroids would be sold in the supermarket next to chocolate bars and condoms..

The idea is simple, get the bitch as fast as possible and put a ring on her finger as soon as possible after you start working with such substances, so that you can give up on them as soon as possible :veryCat:
 
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That's how you eliminate the competition. Even a tall chad that becomes infertile no longer has the same value. What can we say then even about the average dude? :FeelsPepoSpin:

Everything in life has a price, nothing is free. If there were no problems, steroids would be sold in the supermarket next to chocolate bars and condoms..

The idea is simple, get the bitch as fast as possible and put a ring on her finger as soon as possible after you start working with such substances, so that you can give up on them as soon as possible :veryCat:
Legal status doesn't imply safety/tolerability of a compound at all. You can get alcohol and tobacco everywhere, yet steroids are categorized as being safer by the NHS.

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Besides that, most people regain full fertility within weeks/months after coming off.
 
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Thanks for posting this I'm already leanmaxxing and I'm like 2 months away from hopping on
 

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