Steroids 101™

Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
what medications and supports would you recommend for a beginner cycle of 500 test and gh
 
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Hypothetically speaking if u was to start ur first cycle and ur a brokecel. Could you just do 500mg test pin ED and have AI on hand?
 
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Mirin and bookmarked.
Roids are definitely worth considering after the first 1-2 years of consistent training & dieting.
 
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what is minimum iq and age required for roiding
 
Always mirin your post, Jonas.
 
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i blast 2g mast with no test base
 
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good thread
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
Roids for muscle = high iq

Roids for ‘bones’= jfl retarded jew
 
Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
I remember your thrrad against roids

But also, why didnt you talk about primoblan?
 
That's how you eliminate the competition. Even a tall chad that becomes infertile no longer has the same value. What can we say then even about the average dude? :FeelsPepoSpin:

Everything in life has a price, nothing is free. If there were no problems, steroids would be sold in the supermarket next to chocolate bars and condoms..

The idea is simple, get the bitch as fast as possible and put a ring on her finger as soon as possible after you start working with such substances, so that you can give up on them as soon as possible :veryCat:
Am I missing something or the goal isnt putting a ring on her finger, but a baby?…?

Question for OP, how much money do you think you’ve used so far for your physique only?
 
ed cabergoline = schizophrenia
 
Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.
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Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.
Is this a typo bc even 0.5 EW nuked my prolactin to under 1
 
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our lord is doing a great thread again its an honor to even be able to write something in your thread comment section master:love:may we ban all the fag and foids of our beautiful kindom to make it the most beautiful place for us :love:
@pfl @joao23 Least worshipping BWC ethnic
 
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The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.
I feel like this was targeted at my post lol.
I Fell for the tiktok microdosing propaganda :(
 

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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. That is a baseless claim and the only thing that matters is the relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is around 2:1 and can be adjusted based on your personal aromatisation rate. It also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home; it nukes your sleep either way.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in 350-400mg+ of boldenone. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in up to 400-500mg of tren. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every day if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
Amazing thread, good to see ur active again
 
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First good thread of the year

Lookism tier

@SlayerJonas
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. A proposed mechanism for that is the increasing lipophilicity of longer esters. However, the ester is cleaved off before the testosterone is able to be aromatised, making this a baseless claim. The only thing that matters is relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is completely individual and depends on your own aromatisation rate. For most people a ratio of 3:1 to 2:1 is ideal, but measuring your E2 levels on each dose will give you clarity. Boldenone also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" in the double digits is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in boldenone following your personal test-to-bold ratio. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in tren, whilst titrating up to the maximum amount you want to run. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

Liposomal NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Liposomal Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every few days if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
  • In the very rare case that you end up getting puffy and sensitive nipples, use topical raloxifene.
Hello goat slayer jonas, great guide how long do you recommend to cruise between blasts?
 
Hello goat slayer jonas, great guide how long do you recommend to cruise between blasts?
Generally cruise length should match the duration of your blast
 
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why didnt you talk about primoblan?
Primobolan would have a similar use case to boldenone. It nukes hair though, making it a worse option to control E2 levels. It is also faked very often.
 
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Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

View attachment 4859439View attachment 4859449

After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. A proposed mechanism for that is the increasing lipophilicity of longer esters. However, the ester is cleaved off before the testosterone is able to be aromatised, making this a baseless claim. The only thing that matters is relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is completely individual and depends on your own aromatisation rate. For most people a ratio of 3:1 to 2:1 is ideal, but measuring your E2 levels on each dose will give you clarity. Boldenone also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" in the double digits is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in boldenone following your personal test-to-bold ratio. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in tren, whilst titrating up to the maximum amount you want to run. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

View attachment 4859548

If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

Liposomal NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Liposomal Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every few days if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
  • In the very rare case that you end up getting puffy and sensitive nipples, use topical raloxifene.
will it be ok to do a 500mg test cycle without fucking my growth plate if I can manage my E2?
 
Natty lifting is cope. JFL at spending a decade training optimally to end up as looking like someone that has just ended his first cycle. If you're serious about Looksmaxing, you're going to take every shortcut to achieve your goal.

Why should I give a shit about roiding? A body halo is required for both female attention and male respect. If you have the body of a prepubescent boy, no one will take you seriously. You'll be the "friend", but never the guy she's looking for.

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After years of experience and research, the only three steroids you'll ever need are testosterone, boldenone, and trenbolone. Every other steroid, SARM, and prohormone is utter garbage and not not worth it.

Another compound you should definitely add is GH. Insulin isn't required for most people, but if you have a good source you might as well match the GH dose for optimal muscle accrual.



#1: Testosterone is the main pillar of every steroid cycle and should be your main compound. It is a bioidentical hormone responsible for muscle accrual, sexual wellness including libido, and mental drive. It undergoes 5α-reduction into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and aromatises into oestradiol (E2). E2 is anabolic especially in conjunction with trenbolone, whereas DHT's existence is redundant.

Contrary to popular belief, the added ester group doesn't have an impact on the pharmacodynamics of the steroid. It is argued that a longer ester is more anabolic, whereas a shorter one causes less aromatisation and concurrent bloat. A proposed mechanism for that is the increasing lipophilicity of longer esters. However, the ester is cleaved off before the testosterone is able to be aromatised, making this a baseless claim. The only thing that matters is relative injection frequency.

The average male produces around 7mg of testosterone a day (=49mg per week). You would have to inject 66mg of testosterone propionate (relatively short ester weight) per week to match that dose. Everything above that can be considered supraphysiological.

#2: Boldenone is a steroid that you can add to your cycle to control your E2 levels. It doesn't cause hair loss, thus making it a better option compared to exemestane, which has the androgenic metabolite 17ß-Hydroxyexemestane, that will rape your hair. Non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole and letrozole are harsh on your lipids, making them unideal to use.

The optimal testosterone-to-boldenone ratio is completely individual and depends on your own aromatisation rate. For most people a ratio of 3:1 to 2:1 is ideal, but measuring your E2 levels on each dose will give you clarity. Boldenone also increases appetite in most individuals due to the increased red blood cell count.

#3: Trenbolone is highly androgenic (and obviously anabolic) meaning it will completely eviscerate your skin and hair if you aren't using the appropiate ancillaries. The synergy of tren is very high with E2 and GH; it is the best steroid for gaining muscle mass, whilst simultaneously dropping bodyfat.

The effects of trenbolone like nutrition partitioning and glucocorticoid receptor antagonism are dose-dependent like with any other pathway in the body, which means "microdosing tren" in the double digits is nonsense. Take a higher dose or go home.

#4: Growth hormone (GH), besides being anabolic if coupled with other compounds, is more of a quality of life drug. It improves REM sleep, synergises with tren and E2, improves joint, bone, and soft tissue health, with some recognised cognitive benefits, making it a favourable compound.

The first cycle:

Your first steroid cycle should consist of 500mg testosterone and 6-8IU of GH. It will be the first time you are experiencing supraphysiological effects of androgens and is more than enough in the beginning. The cycle should last 20-25+ weeks and should be followed by a cruising phase of a few months, ideally matching the cycle length. After the cruise you may start blasting again and titrating the dosage up according to your personal needs.

Intermediate steroid cycles:

Once you're at the point where you're blasting 700-800mg+ of testosterone, you should throw in boldenone following your personal test-to-bold ratio. Thereafter, following the test-to-bold ratio, increase doses accordingly. Alternatively, you may decrease the test to 500mg and throw in tren, whilst titrating up to the maximum amount you want to run. This cycle is going to be way harsher on your blood markers and hair, but if you're using the correct ancillaries you are going to make the most gains you have ever made while recomp'ing.

To reduce and/or completely eliminate most side effects and cover all pathways steroids negatively impact, we're going to discuss a handful of ancillaries.

#1: Skin and hair

Dutasteride: nukes an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite that ages you and makes your hair fall out without any benefits. Take atleast 2.5mg daily.

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If you want to stay on the safe side, test your brain's genotype (your GABAergic architecture) with a single dose of finasteride, which has a half-life of 6-8 hours, meaning all side effects would be resolved within 1-2 days. PFS is cope.

RU58841: a topical anti-androgen. Its purpose is to stop, or at least reduce, the effects of all androgens on your skin and scalp. Apply it daily.

I make my own RU solution:
  • 50mL glass dropper bottle
  • 2-4g of RU58841 powder
  • 5-8mL of DMSO
  • Rest is pure ethanol

Isotretinoin: nukes sebum production i.e. acne, and does well for anti-aging. Take 10-40mg long-term.

#2: Blood pressure and left ventricular hypertrophy

Nebivolol: a selective beta-blocker that drops your heart rate and blood pressure (BP) and prevents any LVH. Take 5mg daily.

Telmisartan: an Angiotensin II receptor blocker that lowers your BP and is nephroprotective whilst slightly countering aldosterone-related bloat. Take 40-80mg daily.

Only combine both beta-blockers and ARBs if your blood pressure and heart rate is too high (Stage 1+ on one of the ancillaries).

View attachment 4859674

#3: Cholesterol

Statins: rosuvastatin is one of the best statins and doesn't cross the blood-brain-barrier (BBB), meaning cognitive sides won't occur. Take 5-40mg daily.

Ezetimibe: reduces the amount of cholesterol absorbed from food and drops your total cholesterol by around 30%. Take 5-10mg daily.

PCSK9-Inhibitors: mogs if you can get that prescribed as it is extremely expensive and a nuclear option to control your lipids. It works even for LDL-R gene polymorphism abused dogs. Inject subQ every 2-4 weeks.

SR9009: an agonist of Rev-Erbα/ß. Improves your lipid profile, endurance, and your circadian rhythm whilst reducing inflammation. Use 10-40mg daily.

#4: Oxidative stress and organ health

Liposomal NAC: precursor to glutathione, a strong antioxidant, and hepatoprotective. Take 1-3g daily.

Injectable L-Glutathione: as mentioned, a very strong antioxidant that will keep your organs healthy on-cycle and reduce any type of oxidative stress. Inject 500mg every day.

TUDCA: mainly used as liver support, although NAC/Glutathione would be more than enough. Liver support is only required on compounds like tren and 17α-alkylated (=orally bioavailable) steroids.

Retatrutide: an agonist of the GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptor. Great to keep insulin sensitivity and your cholesterol under control while nuking your appetite.

#5: Neuroprotection (including modulation of serotonin and oxytocin)

Neurotoxicity mostly occurs on compounds like tren and if you have raped your E2 levels too hard, which you shouldn't since oestrogen is anabolic, keeps your joints healthy, and is neuroprotective. Contrary to popular belief, oxytocin doesn't appear to be impaired on trenbolone. Rather the opposite occurs.

Besides that, oxytocin doesn't appear to be the muh social hormone after all according to this study:



N-Acetyl Semax: modulates BDNF and neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. The acetylation makes BBB penetration easier (it is normally advised to take semax intranasally to bypass the BBB) and causes a higher receptor saturation whilst prolonging the half-life. Dihexa and cerebrolysin may be used alternatively. However, NA-Semax alone will do the job. Taking higher dosages up to 1-2mg is fully tolerated.

Escitalopram: an SSRI. A pure SERT blocker with only minimal secondary receptor interactions and comes with many benefits like being anxiolytic, improving depression and OCD, all whilst being neuroprotective.

Vortioxetine: an even better SSRI that isn't only a SERT blocker, but also a serotonin receptor modulator. It increases BDNF, dopamine, and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex leading to improved neuroplasticity and overall cognition. It doesn't cause any emotional bluntness, but rather lifts you up, and has low sexual side effects.

Rasagiline: a MAO-B inhibitor, which means it nukes the enzyme that normally metabolises dopamine, phenethylamine, and some trace amines, causing an excess of availability. MAO-A stays intact, resulting in normal serotonin and norepinephrine levels. Rasagiline is also slightly mitoprotective due to reducing oxidative stress in dopaminergic neurons.

LIT-001: an agonist of the oxytocin receptor that is able to pass the BBB and doesn't interact with the vasopressin receptor (=agonism would cause bloat). At higher doses it can even be an antagonist of the vasopressin receptor.

#6: Suppression of HPG-axis

HMG and HCG: these two compounds, even moreso the latter, are all you need to keep your HPG-axis intact. HCG imitates LH, whereas HMG imitates FSH, both stimulating your testes. Inject 100-250IU of HCG every other day (EOD) and take a break every 4-5 months (in case you are permablasting) to reset desensitisation of the Leydig cells. Even for people that plan to blast the next few years, it is recommended to do a HCG cycle 1-2x per year.

View attachment 4860270

#7: Prolactin

Liposomal Pyridoxal-5-Phosphat (P-5-P): on low dosages of tren, more than enough to control your prolactin levels and to prevent lactation.

Cabergoline: a dopamine receptor agonist that is ideal to use at higher doses of tren. Start with 0.25-0.5mg every few days if experiencing side effects.

#8: Other safety measures, habits, and general advice
  • Donate blood to keep your haematocrit (and red blood cell count) low, especially on EQ and tren.
  • Get full blood work before, during, and after a blasting phase. This way you can verify whether your gear is dosed correctly, how certain blood markers are affected etc.
  • Locked in with diet and training. If you aren't doing this, NGMI.
  • Do cardio. It improves lipids, heart health, insulin sensitivity, and so much more. It is one of the core pillar "ancillaries" that keeps you healthy.
  • Good sleep with melatonin, DSIP, magnesium l-threonate, and same sleeping/waking up time. Only take benzos and other sedatives if completely required.
  • Keep fat intake low, carbs and protein high. 200-400g protein is ideal daily.
  • Stay below 15-20% all throughout the cycle. Start the cycle at a very low bodyfat %.
  • In the very rare case that you end up getting puffy and sensitive nipples, use topical raloxifene.
Oh ma lawd
 
200-400g Protein is ideal?

Are you retarded?

Who the fuck needs 300g let alone 400g?

You aren’t gonna be having a low fat intake and a high carb intake with 400g of protein LMAO

And telling people to use caber regularly is insane. You don’t need it at all. Some moron is gonna read that and just start popping 0.5 every few days because he noceboded himself into a bunch of high prolactin sides

this is why you don’t take advice from people who don’t post physique…
 
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200-400g Protein is ideal?

Are you retarded?

Who the fuck needs 300g let alone 400g?

You aren’t gonna be having a low fat intake and a high carb intake with 400g of protein LMAO

And telling people to use caber regularly is insane. You don’t need it at all. Some moron is gonna read that and just start popping 0.5 every few days because he noceboded himself into a bunch of high prolactin sides

this is why you don’t take advice from people who don’t post physique…
At most 2.2kg/mg is ideal, there’s no benefit from anything more unless i’m wrong. Carbs should be your number one macro on gear for sure
 
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At most 2.2kg/mg is ideal, there’s no benefit from anything more unless i’m wrong. Carbs should be your number one macro on gear for sure
yeah, 1.25g/lb is the absolute max

The excess protein is literally useless lmao

The carbs are going to cause way more growth, especially on Tren (using that as a main compound in high doses is fucking stupid but that’s another story lol)

High Test and High Tren lmfao 😂
 

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