Steroids discussion here has gotten ridiculous

[Deleted member 16220]

You aren't going to get huge just by injecting test.

What's actually going to happen is you're going to blow up with a ton of water super fast, maybe start feeling gyno, your hair will start to fall out fast, you might get some acne.

You won't gain a single pound.

I have seen like 20+ responses about "I'm going to inject test and blow up!!!"

that's not how it works.

If you didn't gain some serious size natty (ALL of you know it takes work natty) you won't get bigger roided. You'll gain a bunch of water and THINK you're huge. Then you lower the dose, the water goes, and you're back to normal with a raped hairline.

Using steroids is EXACTLY THE SAME AS NATTY. Just the results for your work come FASTER. So if you could build some serious muscle natty, add test, and suddenly it's slowly packing on.

You need to eat. It's the eating that gets you huge, not the steroids. And the dose is hardly important. It's not like you increase the dose of roids and suddenly a fuck ton of muscle packs on. That's not how it works. You'll visibly see changes alright, but it's gonna be in your HAIRLINE.

Steroids do NOT get you big. Eating does. Show me a single guy who actually is huge off just injecting and not eating. You literally have to become a bag of milk to get huge when you are shredded. That requires constant eating, all day long. And training with knowledge of how the muscle responds to excercises so that you get good results.

You need to eat. Hop on steroids and you'll find out when you dont gain a single pound and complain about water retention and hairloss.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Ok, I agree But fair play is undeniably important in developing structur in order to persevere atomic composition

 

[Orc]

What's actually going to happen is you're going to blow up with a ton of water super fast, maybe start feeling gyno, your hair will start to fall out fast, you might get some acne.

sides are unlikely to be very serious from just test either, it's not that powerful.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Most of the men here want to look like a fucking warrior and sit around and jerk off all day. That's not how it works. If you want to be a warrior you have to practice with war. You have to actually put in some fucking work. Cowards don't get to look like warriors. They look like slightly bigger versions of cowards. Make some fucking sacrifice already.

 

[5.5psl]

Steroids do NOT get you big. Eating does

There are guys who gain over 10-15 pounds of muscle while they are on a cutting cycle

 

[Lihito]

hopping on T sub 6"3 , sub 20 inch bidelotid is retarded

 

[Deleted member 16133]

i dont care we injecting that shit all day everyday 6000 calories a day time to bloatmaxx yall!

 

[Deleted member 17429]

hopping on T sub 6"3 , sub 20 inch bidelotid is retarded

why?

 

[Deleted member 16220]

There are guys who gain over 10-15 pounds of muscle while they are on a cutting cycle

Blasting steroids for 10 pounds is ridiculous. If you're going to use steroids I expect you to be at least 240 lb. You're literally a clown if you're injecting steroids just to look slightly better than natty.

 

[5.5psl]

Blasting steroids for 10 pounds is ridiculous. If you're going to use steroids I expect you to be at least 240 lb. You're literally a clown if you're injecting steroids just to look slightly better than natty.

Being natty is a meme it will take you more than 5 years to get to a 'good' physique that women think can be achieved within a year roids get you that under a year you are saving yourself so much time in bulking and could slay and no you are not erasing few decades of your life by doing 2 500mg test cycles

 

[gribsufer1]

when are you going to learn martial arts?

 

[Blackgymmax]

sides are unlikely to be very serious from just test either, it's not that powerful.

Being natty is a meme it will take you more than 5 years to get to a 'good' physique that women think can be achieved within a year roids get you that under a year you are saving yourself so much time in bulking and could slay and no you are not erasing few decades of your life by doing 2 500mg test cycles

Its gonna take you 2 years on gear to get where you think you want lol.

 

[Blackgymmax]

There are guys who gain over 10-15 pounds of muscle while they are on a cutting cycle

No there isnt. The cap is like 1-1.5lbs muscle a month max blasting gear and eating like a sumo wrestler. Natty lifters are legit retards on gear jfl. You wont gain any muscle on any cutting cycle you fucking idiot lmfao

 

[5.5psl]

Its gonna take you 2 years on gear to get where you think you want lol.

2 years on gear will give me a physique that natties can never achieve and you don't need 2 wtf you need 2 cycles minimum to start looking huge

 

[5.5psl]

No there isnt. The cap is like 1-1.5lbs muscle a month max blasting gear and eating like a sumo wrestler. Natty lifters are legit retards on gear jfl. You wont gain any muscle on any cutting cycle you fucking idiot lmfao

Are u smoking crack or what test+EQ+primo will add on muscle even on a calorie deficit and increase strength and vascularity

 

[Blackgymmax]

2 years on gear will give me a physique that natties can never achieve and you don't need 2 wtf you need 2 cycles minimum to start looking huge

You get 1-1.5lbs muscle per month assuming youre upping the dose every 6 months to a year and youre eating loke a sumo wrestler. Youre religiously posting on this when youre just a natty who has 0 experience or knowledge on the subject. What idiot thinks youll gain 10lbs of muscle their first or second cycle. Each month you barelyngain anything. Each year if you bulk hard asf youll gain 1 legit inch on your arms.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Are u smoking crack or what test+EQ+primo will add on muscle even on a calorie deficit and increase strength and vascularity

you retard, it wont recomp you like that. I know over 10 guys at the gym who look the exact same year round with this retarded thinking. You have to fucking bulk over a long period of time because you cannot build muscle that fast or without alot of FOOD. for gods sake, do you even lift?

 

[5.5psl]

You get 1-1.5lbs muscle per month assuming youre upping the dose every 6 months to a year and youre eating loke a sumo wrestler. Youre religiously posting on this when youre just a natty who has 0 experience or knowledge on the subject. What idiot thinks youll gain 10lbs of muscle their first or second cycle. Each month you barelyngain anything. Each year if you bulk hard asf youll gain 1 legit inch on your arms.

You can easily put on 20 lbs of muscle on a 12 week test cycle idk where you are getting those stats and that 1-1.5 lbs gain per month is when you have abused gear for years fucked your androgen receptors but you can look huge in 2 cycles if you eat enough protein and train hard

 

[tallnegga]

This depends on your response to steroids. Some people will blow up on test without needing to do much work

 

[Blackgymmax]

You can easily put on 20 lbs of muscle on a 12 week test cycle idk where you are getting those stats and that 1-1.5 lbs gain per month is when you have abused gear for years fucked your androgen receptors but you can look huge in 2 cycles if you eat enough protein and train hard

No you cant. Youre just making shit up retard. The human body has a cap you dyel fuck. Imagine it like this. Basically your cap is the speed you made your newbie gains and upping the dose just resets you to that point over and over until a certain level of drugs cant do it anymore. But you cant actually build muscle any faster than that. You cant gain 1lbs of contractile tissue in a week no matter what, no matter how new you are.

 

[5.5psl]

you retard, it wont recomp you like that. I know over 10 guys at the gym who look the exact same year round with this retarded thinking. You have to fucking bulk over a long period of time because you cannot build muscle that fast or without alot of FOOD. for gods sake, do you even lift?

I am talking about putting on muscle while you are on GEAR I didn't said you to be natural eat fuvking whey and be in a calorie deficit and put on 10-15 pounds I said if u run test+eq+primo and if u don't know what are these they are called steroids so if u run them at reasonable dosage then you can easily gain 10-15 pounds of muscle while in a calorie deficit
I have done a fuckton of research on gear then only I have taken the decison to take peds 2 cycles of 500 mg test for 12 weeks mogs entire natty lifting done in 10 years

 

[lebronjames23]

Being natty is a meme it will take you more than 5 years to get to a 'good' physique that women think can be achieved within a year roids get you that under a year you are saving yourself so much time in bulking and could slay and no you are not erasing few decades of your life by doing 2 500mg test cycles

Imagine training natty for 5 years for a “good natty physique” just to look small in a shirt JFL

 

[lebronjames23]

Its gonna take you 2 years on gear to get where you think you want lol.

2 years vs 12 years natty if lucky , roids are much more efficient. I’m so glad I started using gear

 

[Blackgymmax]

I am talking about putting on muscle while you are on GEAR I didn't said you to be natural eat fuvking whey and be in a calorie deficit and put on 10-15 pounds I said if u run test+eq+primo and if u don't know what are these they are called steroids so if u run them at reasonable dosage then you can easily gain 10-15 pounds of muscle while in a calorie deficit
I have done a fuckton of research on gear then only I have taken the decison to take peds 2 cycles of 500 mg test for 12 weeks mogs entire natty lifting done in 10 years

Im talking avoug guys on gear who look the same year round because they dont actually bulk for atleast 6+ months a year. Ive done everything youve said and i have elite natural genes. I can tell youre actually completely new. I used to think like you right before i started so i know youre full of shit. @Jacob Hate is right. If you try bulking as fast as you think going for 20lbs in 12 weeks if not more weight youll just get bloated lol.1-0.5lbs gain per week is what you should be doing gear or not btw

 

[5.5psl]

Im talking avoug guys on gear who look the same year round because they dont actually bulk for atleast 6+ months a year. Ive done everything youve said and i have elite natural genes. I can tell youre actually completely new. I used to think like you right before i started so i know youre full of shit.

Jfl at you before you were saying that you were natural and in one thread you showed your subhuman self and said you are on test what's wrong with you nigga ??

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Being natty is a meme it will take you more than 5 years to get to a 'good' physique that women think can be achieved within a year roids get you that under a year you are saving yourself so much time in bulking and could slay and no you are not erasing few decades of your life by doing 2 500mg test cycles

Natty is a joke I agree. But you have to understand MOST OF YOU. MOST OF YOU. Have the hairloss gene.

If you're already losing hair NATTY with roids it's going to get annihilated. Finasteride and dutasteride will help but you have to realize people still lose hair with fin and dut NATTY and most people are shit responders to minoxidil. There's a reason there's so many people complain about hairloss. It's literally a fucking war to fight and your hair will make you more happy in the mirror than muscle, I promise you that, I would know.

You CAN get good muscle size natty. It's just you've only ever seen PUSSIES who never bulk, never do anything right, and look tiny. You CAN get big 220+ with natty. You just have to know WHAT THE FUCK you are doing.

You WILL lose hair with steroids if you have the gene. Yes you skip 5+ years of natural training, but you also fast forward your HAIRLINE with it. So did you really do anything good? Or did you just fucking age yourself.

Trust me, with PROPER eating, being bloated for a while to bulk, training EDUCATED AND HARD, and LOW DOSE TEST you can look great.

You CANT rush this shit. It's not easy. Its difficult hence why everyone looks like a fucking pussy. That's the point. If it was easy I wouldn't want it.

 

[lebronjames23]

Natty is a joke I agree. But you have to understand MOST OF YOU. MOST OF YOU. Have the hairloss gene.

If you're already losing hair NATTY with roids it's going to get annihilated. Finasteride and dutasteride will help but you have to realize people still lose hair with fin and dut NATTY and most people are shit responders to minoxidil. There's a reason there's so many people complain about hairloss. It's literally a fucking war to fight and your hair will make you more happy in the mirror than muscle, I promise you that, I would know.

You CAN get good muscle size natty. It's just you've only ever seen PUSSIES who never bulk, never do anything right, and look tiny. You CAN get big 220+ with natty. You just have to know WHAT THE FUCK you are doing.

You WILL lose hair with steroids if you have the gene. Yes you skip 5+ years of natural training, but you also fast forward your HAIRLINE with it. So did you really do anything good? Or did you just fucking age yourself.

Trust me, with PROPER eating, being bloated for a while to bulk, training EDUCATED AND HARD, and LOW DOSE TEST you can look great.

You CANT rush this shit. It's not easy. Its difficult hence why everyone looks like a fucking pussy. That's the point. If it was easy I wouldn't want it.

I was a NW 2!at 17. Started roids + Dut , Ru derma rollingand oral Min and my hair has improved immensely. People underestimate the strength of hair loss medication and over estimate the hair loss effect from Test.

Definitely don’t use DHT derivates if your worried about hair loss tho. Just stick to Test

 

[Manu le coq]

You aren't going to get huge just by injecting test.

What's actually going to happen is you're going to blow up with a ton of water super fast, maybe start feeling gyno, your hair will start to fall out fast, you might get some acne.

You won't gain a single pound.

I have seen like 20+ responses about "I'm going to inject test and blow up!!!"

that's not how it works.

If you didn't gain some serious size natty (ALL of you know it takes work natty) you won't get bigger roided. You'll gain a bunch of water and THINK you're huge. Then you lower the dose, the water goes, and you're back to normal with a raped hairline.

Using steroids is EXACTLY THE SAME AS NATTY. Just the results for your work come FASTER. So if you could build some serious muscle natty, add test, and suddenly it's slowly packing on.

You need to eat. It's the eating that gets you huge, not the steroids. And the dose is hardly important. It's not like you increase the dose of roids and suddenly a fuck ton of muscle packs on. That's not how it works. You'll visibly see changes alright, but it's gonna be in your HAIRLINE.

Steroids do NOT get you big. Eating does. Show me a single guy who actually is huge off just injecting and not eating. You literally have to become a bag of milk to get huge when you are shredded. That requires constant eating, all day long. And training with knowledge of how the muscle responds to excercises so that you get good results.

You need to eat. Hop on steroids and you'll find out when you dont gain a single pound and complain about water retention and hairloss.

That’s pure lie, several experiements have show that begginer natty bodybuilder who train 5 times a week constantly gain 2 times less muscle mass than a roided guy who doesn’t train at all in the span of 3 months.
Keepcoping

 

[Deleted member 2268]

You aren't going to get huge just by injecting test.

What's actually going to happen is you're going to blow up with a ton of water super fast, maybe start feeling gyno, your hair will start to fall out fast, you might get some acne.

You won't gain a single pound.

I have seen like 20+ responses about "I'm going to inject test and blow up!!!"

that's not how it works.

If you didn't gain some serious size natty (ALL of you know it takes work natty) you won't get bigger roided. You'll gain a bunch of water and THINK you're huge. Then you lower the dose, the water goes, and you're back to normal with a raped hairline.

Using steroids is EXACTLY THE SAME AS NATTY. Just the results for your work come FASTER. So if you could build some serious muscle natty, add test, and suddenly it's slowly packing on.

You need to eat. It's the eating that gets you huge, not the steroids. And the dose is hardly important. It's not like you increase the dose of roids and suddenly a fuck ton of muscle packs on. That's not how it works. You'll visibly see changes alright, but it's gonna be in your HAIRLINE.

Steroids do NOT get you big. Eating does. Show me a single guy who actually is huge off just injecting and not eating. You literally have to become a bag of milk to get huge when you are shredded. That requires constant eating, all day long. And training with knowledge of how the muscle responds to excercises so that you get good results.

You need to eat. Hop on steroids and you'll find out when you dont gain a single pound and complain about water retention and hairloss.

Absolute idiot

 

[Orc]

You can easily put on 20 lbs of muscle on a 12 week test cycle idk where you are getting those stats and that 1-1.5 lbs gain per month is when you have abused gear for years fucked your androgen receptors but you can look huge in 2 cycles if you eat enough protein and train hard

most roiders barely even look like they lift after a year of straight blasting, roids aren't magic in the kind of moderate doses that allow you to use them without fucking yourself up completely.

 

[Deleted member 2268]

most roiders barely even look like they lift after a year of straight blasting, roids aren't magic in the kind of moderate doses that allow you to use them without fucking yourself up completely.

It’s about dose response to gear and genetics

 

[Deleted member 2268]

most roiders barely even look like they lift after a year of straight blasting, roids aren't magic in the kind of moderate doses that allow you to use them without fucking yourself up completely.

Op is a retard though there’s studies showing you can get gains on a 1000 cal deficit on 200 test

 

[Orc]

It’s about dose response to gear and genetics

of course, you can speed up the progress, but not by making sacrifices skin/hair/health wise, the people that look good are those that have done several moderate cycles rather than one continuous high blast.

Op is a retard though there’s studies showing you can get gains on a 1000 cal deficit on 200 test

to be fair most of those studies measure progress by circumference, if there's more glycogen in the muscle it'll have more circumference.

there's this one study that shows that more progress is made in people that don't do anything and roid than those that exercise, but in reality they're not actually gaining a whole lot besides glycogen, the methods they use for tracking muscle gain aren't very reliable, even if they were to scan your body a muscle that contains more glycogen still appears to be bigger, there's no reliable methods for tracking dry contractile tissue without cutting it out.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

No steroids for your boneless, subhuman face

JFL at roid copers fuming while dyel TikTok twinks with perms fuck all the jb staceylites

 

[Deleted member 2268]

of course, you can speed up the progress, but not by making sacrifices skin/hair/health wise, the people that look good are those that have done several moderate cycles rather than one continuous high blast.

to be fair most of those studies measure progress by circumference, if there's more glycogen in the muscle it'll have more circumference.

there's this one study that shows that more progress is made in people that don't do anything and roid than those that exercise, but in reality they're not actually gaining a whole lot besides glycogen, the methods they use for tracking muscle gain aren't very reliable, even if they were to scan your body a muscle that contains more glycogen still appears to be bigger, there's no reliable methods for tracking dry contractile tissue without cutting it out.

200 test doesn’t add much glycogen it’s lean contractile

 

[Deleted member 2130]

I was a NW 2!at 17. Started roids + Dut , Ru derma rollingand oral Min and my hair has improved immensely. People underestimate the strength of hair loss medication and over estimate the hair loss effect from Test.

Definitely don’t use DHT derivates if your worried about hair loss tho. Just stick to Test

I am prone to balding, but haven't lost any hair since injecting T.

 

[pcmaxing]

You aren't going to get huge just by injecting test.

What's actually going to happen is you're going to blow up with a ton of water super fast, maybe start feeling gyno, your hair will start to fall out fast, you might get some acne.

You won't gain a single pound.

I have seen like 20+ responses about "I'm going to inject test and blow up!!!"

that's not how it works.

If you didn't gain some serious size natty (ALL of you know it takes work natty) you won't get bigger roided. You'll gain a bunch of water and THINK you're huge. Then you lower the dose, the water goes, and you're back to normal with a raped hairline.

Using steroids is EXACTLY THE SAME AS NATTY. Just the results for your work come FASTER. So if you could build some serious muscle natty, add test, and suddenly it's slowly packing on.

You need to eat. It's the eating that gets you huge, not the steroids. And the dose is hardly important. It's not like you increase the dose of roids and suddenly a fuck ton of muscle packs on. That's not how it works. You'll visibly see changes alright, but it's gonna be in your HAIRLINE.

Steroids do NOT get you big. Eating does. Show me a single guy who actually is huge off just injecting and not eating. You literally have to become a bag of milk to get huge when you are shredded. That requires constant eating, all day long. And training with knowledge of how the muscle responds to excercises so that you get good results.

You need to eat. Hop on steroids and you'll find out when you dont gain a single pound and complain about water retention and hairloss.

This isnt true at all. You can get much bigger with steroids , of course diet and training play a big part of it. But the addition of steroids will take you to the next level

also there are steroids where you won’t hold much water weight , it depends on the steroid

 

[Orc]

200 test doesn’t add much glycogen it’s lean contractile

it also doesn't add huge amounts of muscle, but slow and steady gains are better than quick 'cycles' unless you're peaking for a show/movie.

 

[KingBetaTut]

If you need roids to ascend it’s over. Body is way down the pecking order that a bit of natty lifting to complement your frame is what’s needed

 

[Deleted member 16220]

No steroids for your boneless, subhuman face

JFL at roid copers fuming while dyel TikTok twinks with perms fuck all the jb staceylites

Steroid users are real men. Crying dogs like yourself talking shit on the internet probably jerking off all day, you're not anything. I know some ugly fucks that don't get laid and they're real men I have respect for. They're waiting to die cheerfully like fucking men. While you watch tik tok and dream you were born and given the world like a Disney movie.

 

[gribsufer1]

Steroid users are real men. Crying dogs like yourself talking shit on the internet probably jerking off all day, you're not anything. I know some ugly fucks that don't get laid and they're real men I have respect for. They're waiting to die cheerfully like fucking men. While you watch tik tok and dream you were born and given the world like a Disney movie.

martial artists are real men , more so than steroid users

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Steroid users are real men. Crying dogs like yourself talking shit on the internet probably jerking off all day, you're not anything. I know some ugly fucks that don't get laid and they're real men I have respect for. They're waiting to die cheerfully like fucking men. While you watch tik tok and dream you were born and given the world like a Disney movie.

Cope. Youre not qualified to say anything about real men ever since you signed up on this website. I rarely watch TikTok, but unlike you I know what ideal female appeal in 2023 is. Im gonna post the biggest Looksmax ascension to rival Streege, Crisick etc. in Q3 2023, by then it should be pretty clear that you know nothing of me and what I have gone through / currently go through. Waiting to die cheerfully is for losers, you should do everything in your power to transcend your circumstances or you will forever be confined to play with the cards you were given, which were not a full hand for almost all users in here.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Cope. Youre not qualified to say anything about real men ever since you signed up on this website. I rarely watch TikTok, but unlike you I know what ideal female appeal in 2023 is. Im gonna post the biggest Looksmax ascension to rival Streege, Crisick etc. in Q3 2023, by then it should be pretty clear that you know nothing of me and what I have gone through / currently go through. Waiting to die cheerfully is for losers, you should do everything in your power to transcend your circumstances or you will forever be confined to play with the cards you were given, which were not a full hand for almost all users in here.

No u wont lol. Ive heard this atlest 20 times now

 

[Deleted member 22623]

No u wont lol. Ive heard this atlest 20 times now

We will see

 

[Blackgymmax]

We will see

Main character syndrome. Theres always a guy everyday who think he's the next salludon etc

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Main character syndrome. Theres always a guy everyday who think he's the next salludon etc

I mog Salludon

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Main character syndrome. Theres always a guy everyday who think he's the next salludon etc

Its literally the first time Ive said this. Maybe others have said it as well, but they probably dont have the determination. Has nothing to do with main character syndrome tbh. Its what we all should strive for since we signed up on this website, no?

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Its literally the first time Ive said this. Maybe others have said it as well, but they probably dont have the determination. Has nothing to do with main character syndrome tbh. Its what we all should strive for since we signed up on this website, nout?

Shut the fuck up idiot

 

[KingBetaTut]

I

Main character syndrome. Theres always a guy everyday who think he's the next salludon etc

Id rather be the next Lebron than a .org user tbh

 

[Blackgymmax]

Its literally the first time Ive said this. Maybe others have said it as well, but they probably dont have the determination. Has nothing to do with main character syndrome tbh. Its what we all should strive for since we signed up on this website, no?

No i mean theres alot of guys who say the same thing. Guys improve but everyone thinks they have some weird god tier potential over everyone else for some reason.