Steroids

[kxneki]

I'm planning on starting a steroid cycle in a couple weeks. It'll be a 14 week bulking cycle.

I'll be running 500mgs test E per week, 50mgs of tren A for 5 weeks, and 30mgs of anavar daily for 6 weeks.
I'll also be using 250iu of HCG twice a week during my cycle and arimidex as needed. For my PCT i'll be doing 20mgs of nolvadex for 4 weeks

As for my supports I'll be using 600mg NAC, 250mg TUDCA, 3g Omega 3 fish oil, 100mg CoQ10, 500mg Citrus Bergamot, Cabergoline if prolactin side emerge, and melatonin 5mg if i cant sleep.

should i add or remove anything?

 

[Giorgio]

You are fearmongering, your balls work for about 6 months on then enter fibrosis where they start suffering permanent damage. Fibrosis is quite simple to avoid, just inject/cycle HCG at that point then your balls are more active than a natural with 0 permanent damage.

are you sure about this? can you link any sources?

I remember vigorous steve saying that the artificial T circulating in the body keeps the balls at a certain size & prevents athropy
the HPTA is of course shut off anyway

 

[Newday*V3]

are you sure about this? can you link any sources?

I remember vigorous steve saying that the artificial T circulating in the body keeps the balls at a certain size & prevents athropy
the HPTA is of course shut off anyway

That is just plain wrong, exogenous testosterone suppresses LH and FSH which are the sperm production hormones essentially. That is such a troll statement

 

[HardMaxxed]

30iu insulin ? it didnt downregulate your pancreas from this exogenous amount ? I am planning to take it to mitigate the gh effects since my dose is a bit high but scared my pancreas could desensitize or get any other metabolic problems.

 

[HardMaxxed]

Dont be scared of insulin its really not as bad as ppl make it seem, Insulin is insane trust me, I ran 30IU LANTUS insulin everyday with GH and tren and the gains and bone gains too were insane.

Superdrol will cook your liver btw, it is good but u will fucking destroy your liver, wouldnt recommend especially on Tren as Tren is an acute stressor of the liver. But Superdrol does have good synergy with Tren since Tren cancels out some of superdrols shit side effects.

I am also planning to run superdrol this september, but the injectable version to bypass the liver strain, Imma run it with tren, Gh, insulin, Test, mast. Run the injectable version if you ever wanna run superdrol, and I have only found one source for injectable. Dragonpharmastore.

There is literally 0 need to run HCG until the 5-6month mark of using btw. Your balls will be fine. Also do not PCT, if you think you will roid more (which you will) just blast and cruise bro, you can roid infinitely with HCG, HCG basically stops your balls from atrophying and keeps them full. Why do you think fucking Arnold Schwarznegger has kids lol

forgot to tag the post

 

[HardMaxxed]

30iu insulin ? it didnt downregulate your pancreas from this exogenous amount ? I am planning to take it to mitigate the gh effects since my dose is a bit high but scared my pancreas could desensitize or get any other metabolic problems.

this was the question @Newday*V3

 

[Newday*V3]

30iu insulin ? it didnt downregulate your pancreas from this exogenous amount ? I am planning to take it to mitigate the gh effects since my dose is a bit high but scared my pancreas could desensitize or get any other metabolic problems.

Your natural insulin is already downregulated since you are taking exogenously bro. I don't know what you mean by mitigating. You can cycle the insulin 6 weeks on and off. 30IU is upper limit dose anyway

 

[HardMaxxed]

Your natural insulin is already downregulated since you are taking exogenously bro. I don't know what you mean by mitigating. You can cycle the insulin 6 weeks on and off. 30IU is upper limit dose anyway

yes thats what iam saying, you said you ran 30iu which must have downregulated your natural production. Mitigating = limiting the gh sides the insulin resistance in particular by injecting exogenous insulin, was thinking of that. But thought of reta too which might be better. Also with insulin you need to be very meticulous and its time consumming as you need to inject before every meal.

 

[samgrattlescouilles]

I'm planning on starting a steroid cycle in a couple weeks. It'll be a 14 week bulking cycle.

I'll be running 500mgs test E per week, 50mgs of tren A for 5 weeks, and 30mgs of anavar daily for 6 weeks.
I'll also be using 250iu of HCG twice a week during my cycle and arimidex as needed. For my PCT i'll be doing 20mgs of nolvadex for 4 weeks

As for my supports I'll be using 600mg NAC, 250mg TUDCA, 3g Omega 3 fish oil, 100mg CoQ10, 500mg Citrus Bergamot, Cabergoline if prolactin side emerge, and melatonin 5mg if i cant sleep.

should i add or remove anything?

dont do pct on tren lmao tren takes one year before it stops suppressing your balls so if you do a pct 2 weeks after your last injection it will be useless be on trt for one year and then pct

 

[Oreone]

30iu insulin ? it didnt downregulate your pancreas from this exogenous amount ? I am planning to take it to mitigate the gh effects since my dose is a bit high but scared my pancreas could desensitize or get any other metabolic problems.

Initially 1 iu per 20 g of carbs then gradually increase to 1 iu per 10 g of carbs

 

[Copercel]

I'll be running 500mgs test E per week, 50mgs of tren A for 5 weeks, and 30mgs of anavar daily for 6 weeks.
I'll also be using 250iu of HCG twice a week during my cycle and arimidex as needed. For my PCT i'll be doing 20mgs of nolvadex for 4 weeks

it’s your first cycle? Because if you’re doing tren in your first cycle you’re doomed

Do anavar for 10 weeks and increase the cycle length to 16-20 weeks

As for my supports I'll be using 600mg NAC, 250mg TUDCA, 3g Omega 3 fish oil, 100mg CoQ10, 500mg Citrus Bergamot, Cabergoline if prolactin side emerge, and melatonin 5mg if i cant sleep.

shitty ancillaries, stay only with TUDCA/NAC (optional btw since anavar hepatotoxicty is tolerable), except for that add RU58841, dut (you’re 95% finished puberty so you’re fine), aromasin and maybe amiloride for mitigating test bloat.
The rest of the ancillaries are just not strong enough to withstand against ‘roids

 

[Newday*V3]

yes thats what iam saying, you said you ran 30iu which must have downregulated your natural production.

it always happens even with a small amount

Mitigating = limiting the gh sides the insulin resistance in particular by injecting exogenous insulin, was thinking of that.

that isnt really a side effect its more nuanced, its a side effect for mk since its 23 7, but exogenous GH has a low half-life then dissappears

But thought of reta too which might be better. Also with insulin you need to be very meticulous and its time consumming as you need to inject before every meal.

Its lantus insulin, thats rapid ur talking about but still true

 

[Newday*V3]

it’s your first cycle? Because if you’re doing tren in your first cycle you’re doomed

Do anavar for 10 weeks and increase the cycle length to 16-20 weeks

what is with .org and recommending to waste 5 months of your balls being active just for a shitty test var cycle

 

[Copercel]

what is with .org and recommending to waste 5 months of your balls being active just for a shitty test var cycle

5 months is harsh, most people are getting their balls reactivated after a month or two

What do you suggest? For him to run tren and get suppressed much harsher than he would if he did just test?

He needs to see how his body reacts to the cycle and only then judge what to do next

 

[Newday*V3]

5 months is harsh, most people are getting their balls reactivated after a month or two

my nigga in christ 20 weeks is 5 months. And 5 months isnt harsh necessarily, as long as your health is in check you can blast for 5 months straight. Balls reactivated after a month? what? your balls don't reactivate on cycle, they have a 6 month lifespan till you need to pin hcg to avoid permanent effects, why would you waste 5 out of 6 months blasting a shit cycle, use that time to blast like crazy

What do you suggest? For him to run tren and get suppressed for double the amount of time than he would if he did just test?

?? there is a limit to how suppressed you can be bro, test and var is already maximally suppressive adding tren won't be any more suppressive since you reached the max limit. Even 300mg of Test is basically max suppression. So yes, tren is good, suppression isn't relevant, there are other things to consider than suppression

 

[Copercel]

my nigga in christ 20 weeks is 5 months. And 5 months isnt harsh necessarily, as long as your health is in check you can blast for 5 months straight. Balls reactivated after a month? what? your balls don't reactivate on cycle, they have a 6 month lifespan till you need to pin hcg to avoid permanent effects, why would you waste 5 out of 6 months blasting a shit cycle, use that time to blast like crazy

I understood you wrong, I thought you were saying that that’s what happens post-cycle, didn’t think you talked about during the cycle

So what cycle are you suggesting haha? Can’t think of any better cycle than test+var+HGH.

?? there is a limit to how suppressed you can be bro, test and var is already maximally suppressive adding tren won't be any more suppressive since you reached the max limit. Even 300mg of Test is basically max suppression. So yes, tren is good, suppression isn't relevant, there are other things to consider than suppression

aside of that, i guess it’s his first cycle, why would he run tren on his first cycle???

 

[Newday*V3]

I understood you wrong, I thought you were saying that that’s what happens post-cycle, didn’t think you talked about during the cycle

So what cycle are you suggesting haha? Can’t think of any better cycle than test+var+HGH.

Test
tren
insulin
GH
Some sort of DHT derivative or AI
= King

(support and hormone control here)

aside of that, i guess it’s his first cycle, why would he run tren on his first cycle???

Balls maximally active

Healthiest state before using

Best anabolic steroid

I ran 600mg Tren 3 months and gained 30kg

 

[HardMaxxed]

it always happens even with a small amount

then it could lead to increased risk of diabetes by affecting the proper function of the pancreas ?
once you stop the insulin

 

[Newday*V3]

then it could lead to increased risk of diabetes by affecting the proper function of the pancreas ?
once you stop the insulin

Dude it doesn’t shut down your natural insulin that is the point. If it did then 10IU would shut it down like 30IU

 

[kxneki]

@Newday*V3 i updated my cycle
Testosterone Enanthate

• 300 mg/week (split Mon/Thu injections)

Trenbolone Acetate

• 150 mg/week (split Mon/Thu injections)

HGH

• 4 IU/day, 6 days/week
• 2 IU AM, 2 IU pre-workout

IGF-1 LR3

• 30 mcg post-workout, 5 days/week (150 mcg/week )

Insulin

• Start 4 IU post-workout
• Titrate up to 6-8 iu later
• Only on training days (5days/week)
• 8 weeks (weeks 2–9)

BPC-157 + TB-500

• BPC-157 ~250 mcg/day
• TB-500 ~250 mcg/day

 

[Newday*V3]

@Newday*V3 i updated my cycle
Testosterone Enanthate

• 300 mg/week (split Mon/Thu injections)

Standard dose, good. Some people at 300mg may need an AI some might not, you can either run 6.25mg aromasin every 3rd day or run a DHT derivative or just generally a steroid that acts as an AI (Like masteron, equipose) though both might be harsh on hair depending on genetics.

Trenbolone Acetate

• 150 mg/week (split Mon/Thu injections)

Good dose, even at 150mg Tren is effective. You are running Tren Ace though, you are meant to split your pin EOD (every other day) with Tren ace. If you tolerate 150mg you can slowly tartrate up to a higher dose

HGH

• 4 IU/day, 6 days/week
• 2 IU AM, 2 IU pre-workout

Don't pin GH preworkout please, keep it morning and night

IGF-1 LR3

• 30 mcg post-workout, 5 days/week (150 mcg/week )

Good

Insulin

• Start 4 IU post-workout
• Titrate up to 6-8 iu later
• Only on training days (5days/week)
• 8 weeks (weeks 2–9)

Specify whether this is Rapid insulin or Lantus Insulin. If it's lantus (hope so) it has a 24hour half-life and is just meant to be pinned full dose every morning, the dose is 10-30IU mainly.

BPC-157 + TB-500

• BPC-157 ~250 mcg/day
• TB-500 ~250 mcg/day

sure

You need to add 150mg P5P (a supplement) to keep your prolactin from rising whilst on tren

 

[Marcussub3]

Age?

 

[kxneki]

Good dose, even at 150mg Tren is effective. You are running Tren Ace though, you are meant to split your pin EOD (every other day) with Tren ace. If you tolerate 150mg you can slowly tartrate up to a higher dose

what do u think the max dose i should titrate up to is?

Don't pin GH preworkout please, keep it morning and night

bet bet

Specify whether this is Rapid insulin or Lantus Insulin. If it's lantus (hope so) it has a 24hour half-life and is just meant to be pinned full dose every morning, the dose is 10-30IU mainly.

it's rapid insulin but i'll change it to lantus. what's the main difference between them other than the half life?

You need to add 150mg P5P (a supplement) to keep your prolactin from rising whilst on tren

bet thank you

 

[kxneki]

Age?

17

 

[Newday*V3]

what do u think the max dose i should titrate up to is?

600mg is like the max MAX dose dont think you will get much benefits going above that, but 400mg is the max upper limit dose

it's rapid insulin but i'll change it to lantus. what's the main difference between them other than the half life?

Rapid has a short half-life, hence why it is rapid, and has more sides if you are not careful. It is basically the second insulin while lantus is the main insulin. Lantus mogs, rapid is just an extra