Still shedding

[LordNorwood]

100 hairs in the shower again this morning, disappointing af since it seemed like it was going down and I even thought the shedding phase was over
Sigh
I think hair is still overall looking better but some days it looks good and some days not
Fin is a rollercoaster so far ngl

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

bro its over just accept it, hair system is way better stop coping with fin

 

[FatJattMofo]

 

[LordNorwood]

bro its over just accept it, hair system is way better stop coping with fin

I still have so much hair left, I know you're being ironic but giving up at this stage makes no sense

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

I still have so much hair left, I know you're being ironic but giving up at this stage makes no sense

i was nw0 at 14 , mogged all of this fucking site and then bam 3 years later im nw7 horseshoecel, i was shedding at gigarate too

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mogs me bro

 

[LordNorwood]

i was nw0 at 14 , mogged all of this fucking site and then bam 3 years later im nw7 horseshoecel, i was shedding at gigarate too

mogs me bro

You're an insanely abnormal case, you're literally as rare as someone with perfect nw0 into their 80s just in the exact opposite direction
Shedding is pretty common on fin, I'm not worried about it tbh further hair loss on fin is fairly rare

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

You're an insanely abnormal case, you're literally as rare as someone with perfect nw0 into their 80s just in the exact opposite direction
Shedding is pretty common on fin, I'm not worried about it tbh further hair loss on fin is fairly rare

fuck man , nature wants me out of gene pool so hard

 

[LordNorwood]

fuck man , nature wants me out of gene pool so hard

How tall?

 

[Deleted member 3583]

everytime i finish a lecture, theres around 5 hairs on my notebook. this has happened for years and im nw0. is this shedding normal tho?

 

[LordNorwood]

everytime i finish a lecture, theres around 5 hairs on my notebook. this has happened for years and im nw0. is this shedding normal tho?

It depends some people lose a lot of hair some not
Shedding in general is only really an issue if it is truly insane amounts of hair or if you are noticing hair loss along with it, there are individuals who lose a decent amount of hair daily but have good hair

 

[Deleted member 2352]

Fuark what a nghtmare

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

How tall?

i thought i was 181 cm, some negreo nurse measured me with some machine turns out im 178 cm, i was king of manlets now im manlet JFL

everytime i finish a lecture, theres around 5 hairs on my notebook. this has happened for years and im nw0. is this shedding normal tho?

your avi de niros me bro

 

[Deleted member 1862]

will do another fin thread in a couple weeks, remind me OP, how long has it been now?

 

[LordNorwood]

will do another fin thread in a couple weeks, remind me OP, how long has it been now?

At the end of this month it will have been two months

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Are you only taking fin?

 

[LordNorwood]

Are you only taking fin?

Yeah but I plan on getting on minox soonish and ramping up to some truly next level shit as I get more income

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Yeah but I plan on getting on minox soonish and ramping up to some truly next level shit as I get more income

You don't need that much money to treat hairloss tbh.

Fin + minox + Magnesium will target almost everything, other stuff will just accelerate the regrowth process. You'll still have to keep using them forever until you fix the chronic inflammation though

 

[Deleted member 1862]

At the end of this month it will have been two months

Nice, i've finally started noticing results in terms of decreased shedding. Be patient

You don't need that much money to treat hairloss tbh.

Fin + minox + Magnesium will target almost everything, other stuff will just accelerate the regrowth process. You'll still have to keep using them forever until you fix the chronic inflammation though

elab on magnesium

you mean glycinate?

 

[onnysk]

I have expired fin from 1yr ago ordered from India, are there any risks if I use it now?

 

[Deleted member 656]

Tales from the shedding shack

 

[LordNorwood]

Nice, i've finally started noticing results in terms of decreased shedding. Be patient

elab on magnesium

you mean glycinate?

How long have you been on?

You don't need that much money to treat hairloss tbh.

Fin + minox + Magnesium will target almost everything, other stuff will just accelerate the regrowth process. You'll still have to keep using them forever until you fix the chronic inflammation though

I want as thick as hair as possible though. I plan on adding a decent amount of stuff, RU, Ghk-CU, etc.

I have expired fin from 1yr ago ordered from India, are there any risks if I use it now?

No idea mate but I wouldn't tbh

 

[Deleted member 656]

Fin + minox

The dynamic duo for killing both your penis and your skin

 

[Deleted member 1862]

How long have you been on?

I want as thick as hair as possible though. I plan on adding a decent amount of stuff, RU, Ghk-CU, etc.

3 & a half months

 

[LordNorwood]

@Deliciadecu I also plan on adding dermaneedling. My plan to fix my chronic inflammation is to completely nuke inflammation in my body by going on carnivore (least insulogenic diet I've found) and fasting frequently. I plan on doing OMAD plus a couple 48s a week.

3 & a half months

Gives me a lot of ease of mind ngl

 

[KEy21]

Doesn’t matter, shedding is very common in the first 6 months. If it continues after 6 months then you should be worried

 

[LordNorwood]

Doesn’t matter, shedding is very common in the first 6 months. If it continues after 6 months then you should be worried

If it continues at the six month mark it will be time for a blood test and then to jump on dut tbh

 

[Deleted member 1100]

elab on magnesium

you mean glycinate?

Scalp calcification is one of the reasons for hair loss, you need magnesium to avoid calcium getting stuck on places where it shouldn't.

Just google "Magnesium deficiency on country..." Most people are deficient on magnesium worldwide, here in Brazil it's ~42% for university students, about 50% in the USA, and so on...

The dynamic duo for killing both your penis and your skin

Fin, sure

Minoxidil, not really

@Deliciadecu I also plan on adding dermaneedling. My plan to fix my chronic inflammation is to completely nuke inflammation in my body by going on carnivore (least insulogenic diet I've found) and fasting frequently. I plan on doing OMAD plus a couple 48s a week.

isn't meat inflammatory?

I'm not sure, but I'd check some studies first. Also, check the level of phthalates on the meats you gonna eat, or it will fuck up your testosterone in the long run (and your future children too). In fact, avoid everything that comes in plastic tbh

 

[Deleted member 656]

Minoxidil, not really

Why would you not use GHK-Cu or biotinyl-GHK?

 

[LordNorwood]

Scalp calcification is one of the reasons for hair loss, you need magnesium to avoid calcium getting stuck on places where it shouldn't.

Just google "Magnesium deficiency on country..." Most people are deficient on magnesium worldwide, here in Brazil it's ~42% for university students, about 50% in the USA, and so on...



Fin, sure

Minoxidil, not really




isn't meat inflammatory?

I'm not sure, but I'd check some studies first. Also, check the level of phthalates on the meats you gonna eat, or it will fuck up your testosterone in the long run (and your future children too). In fact, avoid everything that comes in plastic tbh

From shit I've seen an all meat diet tends to drop inflammation markers because it dramatically lowers your insulin
Many people go on an all meat diet just to lower inflammation in the gut

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Why would you not use GHK-Cu or biotinyl-GHK?

I've no idea what are those, but...

Biotinyl – GHK (Biotinyl-tripeptide) : Stimulates hair cell metabolism. Contains Biotin which helps healthy and strong regrowth of hair. Increases dermal scalp levels of collagen and elastin, which reduces the damage of DHT to the follicles.

Not sure why I'd want to increase the levels of collagen on my scalp if that's exactly one of the reasons that cause hair loss, excess accumulation of disorganized collagen, in other words fibrosis.

Also "the damage of DHT to the follicles" DHT causes no damage to the hair follicles, lol

DHT gets accumulated on the follicles because of the chronic inflammation, DHT is known to be anti-inflammatory, but when you have a non-stop inflammation you'll obviously get a shit ton of DHT accumulated there trying to solve a non-stop inflammation, which leads to fibrosis, which along with calcification, leads to restriction in the blood flow, which means less oxygen and nutrients to the hair follicles.

"DHT causes hair loss" is just how lazy M.Ds deal with their lazyness to explain how this shit works, or the classic "Scalp sensitivity to DHT"

 

[Deleted member 2352]

i thought i was 181 cm, some negreo nurse measured me with some machine turns out im 178 cm, i was king of manlets now im manlet JFL

your avi de niros me bro

181 cm is already mega manlet.
And now it turns out your 178
Jesus now its really over for you.
I would legit try suicide again.
Jesus

 

[Deleted member 656]

I've no idea what are those, but...

Not sure why I'd want to increase the levels of collagen on my scalp if that's exactly one of the reasons that cause hair loss, excess accumulation of disorganized collagen, in other words fibrosis.

Also "the damage of DHT to the follicles" DHT causes no damage to the hair follicles, lol

DHT gets accumulated on the follicles because of the chronic inflammation, DHT is known to be anti-inflammatory, but when you have a non-stop inflammation you'll obviously get a shit ton of DHT accumulated there trying to solve a non-stop inflammation, which leads to fibrosis, which along with calcification, leads to restriction in the blood flow, which means less oxygen and nutrients to the hair follicles.

"DHT causes hair loss" is just how lazy M.Ds deal with their lazyness to explain how this shit works, or the classic "Scalp sensitivity to DHT"

Biotinyl-GHK was proven in clinical studies to increase hair growth with 70% greater efficacy than minoxidil

 

[LordNorwood]

I've no idea what are those, but...

Not sure why I'd want to increase the levels of collagen on my scalp if that's exactly one of the reasons that cause hair loss, excess accumulation of disorganized collagen, in other words fibrosis.

Also "the damage of DHT to the follicles" DHT causes no damage to the hair follicles, lol

DHT gets accumulated on the follicles because of the chronic inflammation, DHT is known to be anti-inflammatory, but when you have a non-stop inflammation you'll obviously get a shit ton of DHT accumulated there trying to solve a non-stop inflammation, which leads to fibrosis, which along with calcification, leads to restriction in the blood flow, which means less oxygen and nutrients to the hair follicles.

"DHT causes hair loss" is just how lazy M.Ds deal with their lazyness to explain how this shit works, or the classic "Scalp sensitivity to DHT"

I know what theory you're referring to but if that is true when are fin and dut such effective anti-hairloss drugs? Why are anti-androgens in general effective anti hair-loss drugs?

 

[shibo]

Isnt it normal to lose that much a day

 

[Julian]

Wtf my dad is very high T, 60 years old and has the hairline of o’pry, nothing to worry I think

 

[Deleted member 656]

Wtf my dad is very high T, 60 years old and has the hairline of o’pry, nothing to worry I think

Before or after his hair transplant?

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

181 cm is already mega manlet.
And now it turns out your 178
Jesus now its really over for you.
I would legit try suicide again.
Jesus

Mogs me

 

[LordNorwood]

Isnt it normal to lose that much a day

yes over the course of the entire day, not all at once in the shower

 

[shibo]

yes over the course of the entire day, not all at once in the shower

Ive noticed my shedding getting less. Tho i heard it sheds in phases but im already like 1 and a half months on fin so i hope it can save me. I lost quite alot of hair thickness though

 

[Julian]

Before or after his hair transplant?

He never had one

 

[Deleted member 2352]

Mogs me

I mog you by 6 cm.Which is a big mog.
Consider Leg lengenthening or just dont visit The European Continent in your life

 

[shibo]

I mog you by 6 cm.Which is a big mog.
Consider Leg lengenthening or just dont visit The European Continent in your life

How tall is that in feet

 

[LordNorwood]

Ive noticed my shedding getting less. Tho i heard it sheds in phases but im already like 1 and a half months on fin so i hope it can save me. I lost quite alot of hair thickness though

You and me both mate.
My shedding overall has decreased today was an unusually bad day for some fucking reason though.
I had a bad dandruff outbreak yesterday though and I think that may precede shedding and my hair looking like shit. When I was back home post Thanksgiving I had the most fucking horrific dandruff outbreak I've had in a long time and my hair looked the worst it had in weeks.

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

I mog you by 6 cm.Which is a big mog.
Consider Leg lengenthening or just dont visit The European Continent in your life

Thanks for advice son. Could you buy me 6 feet rope on amazon and save me the hassle

 

[Deleted member 2352]

How tall is that in feet

6 cm ?2 1/2 inch.
If you mean my height
184 cm
6 ft 1/2 inch

Thanks for advice son. Could you buy me 6 feet rope on amazon and save me the hassle

Ok bro .I will do you the honor.
I will send it via Fed ex.

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Biotinyl-GHK was proven in clinical studies to increase hair growth with 70% greater efficacy than minoxidil

Do you have the study for me to check out?

I know what theory you're referring to but if that is true when are fin and dut such effective anti-hairloss drugs? Why are anti-androgens in general effective anti hair-loss drugs?

Because they stop the fibrosis and calcification progress. But they don't reverse it. That's why using fin or dut alone won't give you much regrowth on areas that there are only vellus hairs left, and for that you need minoxidil, because minoxidil will help increase the blood flow to those vellus hairs so they can grow thicker and longer + increasing their anagen phase.

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

6 cm ?2 1/2 inch.
If you mean my height
184 cm
6 ft 1/2 inch

Ok bro .I will do you the honor.
I will send it via Fed ex.

Ded srs?

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Wtf my dad is very high T, 60 years old and has the hairline of o’pry, nothing to worry I think

Testosterone level has nothing to do with baldness, high T men go bald, low T men go too

 

[Deleted member 656]

Do you have the study for me to check out?

Closest thing I could find

Figure 3: Control hair on Day 14 (left), biotinyl-GHK treated hair on...

Download scientific diagram | Control hair on Day 14 (left), biotinyl-GHK treated hair on D14 (right). from publication: Reduction of Hair-loss: Matrikines and plant molecules to the rescue | Synopsis : Excessive hair loss in men is a multifactorial problem that needs holistic treatment. The...

www.researchgate.net

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265411501_Reduction_of_Hair-loss_Matrikines_and_plant_molecules_to_the_rescue#pf6

 

[LordNorwood]

Do you have the study for me to check out?



Because they stop the fibrosis and calcification progress. But they don't reverse it. That's why using fin or dut alone won't give you much regrowth on areas that there are only vellus hairs left, and for that you need minoxidil, because minoxidil will help increase the blood flow to those vellus hairs so they can grow thicker and longer + increasing their anagen phase.

An interesting hypothesis but one reason I can't fully accept the inflammation-only theory is because when castrated men are given exogenous androgens, they lose their very rapidly instead of gradually over decades as one might expect based on this idea.
Furthermore, the rates of hair loss increase as you get older, despite the fact that your androgens drop as you age.
All this suggests that it isn't the case that DHT/androgens simply cause the fibrosis/calcification process slowly over time as a constant response to low-grade inflammation which then results in hair loss.