Stop relying on peptides alone

[Deleted member 138051]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

 

[Copercel]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

someone needed to say this.

Mirin brah.

 

[underatedgreycel]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

10 ius a day is retarded bro

 

[nik.077]

someone needed to say this.

Mirin brah.

why did you change your name?

 

[slaters]

10 ius a day is retarded bro

What do you know?

 

[underatedgreycel]

What do you know?

Ig ur right. Im pinning soon tho

 

[Copercel]

why did you change your name?

I only changed the “123” that was in my name.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

10 ius a day is retarded bro

How?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

Hgh alone for bone is genuine dogshit. Only gonna end up uglier with a big ass nose and dumbo ears.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

I believe nandrolone to be far superior to anavar and test in terms of bone relative to hair, skin and other androgenic effects
Would like to hear your opinion on this though

 

[kazama]

I agree, ppl here dont even do the basics and theyre already trying to take things like that lol
Like "yeah bro, just take GH peptides" nigga dont even sleep lol

10 ius a day is retarded bro

Hes talking abt peptides. This shit aint pure gh

 

[kazama]

Bump

 

[bttb]

Hes talking abt peptides. This shit aint pure gh

He's def talking about hgh

 

[mogging2eternity]

good thread

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Hgh alone for bone is genuine dogshit. Only gonna end up uglier with a big ass nose and dumbo ears.

It’s indeed retard. But made it clear for people here that you can’t get bonemass from HGH unless you’re blasting it.

I believe nandrolone to be far superior to anavar and test in terms of bone relative to hair, skin and other androgenic effects
Would like to hear your opinion on this though

If depends on what you’re trying to get out of it tbh.
Nandrolone is way stronger but “stronger” doesn’t always mean better. You get better results out of nandrolone but with greater side effects.
Anavar is almost side effects free, and the sides you DO get from it are reversible.
Anavar mogs imo.

If you’re talking about them for bones, then it’s something else, i didn’t talk about how anavar is good for bones, I meant that it’s good for muscle mass.
But if you ARE talking about bone growth from then both are shit for it, it already won’t grow you any noticeable bonemass-

Nandrolone converts to DHN, which is a weak ass androgen in comparison to DHT. That’s bad for facial bone growth

Also you’re not getting “just bone effects” and skipping hair/skin. Nandrolone’s low androgenic rating is due to weak DHN at the skin, hair, CNS, but that includes bonemass in face aswell.
So you’re not getting a “bonus”. you’re getting a blunted androgen effect everywhere, not selective targeting of bone.

 

[nik.077]

I only changed the “123” that was in my name.

yes but why? or can you change your name for free

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Hes talking abt peptides. This shit aint pure gh

I talk about HGH.

 

[Copercel]

yes but why? or can you change your name for free

I don’t know, I didn’t like it.

 

[Copercel]

What do you know?

Not much probably.

 

[kazama]

I talk about HGH.

mb, interpreting things in english is difficult

 

[Deleted member 138051]

mb, interpreting things in english is difficult

That’s fine.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

It’s indeed retard. But made it clear for people here that you can’t get bonemass from HGH unless you’re blasting it.

I disagree tbh. My caveat for hgh lies with solely with the fact that replying too heavily on the igf-1 pathway will simply make you ugly/acromegalic

Higher doses of hgh=/=higher igf

If depends on what you’re trying to get out of it tbh.
Nandrolone is way stronger but “stronger” doesn’t always mean better. You get better results out of nandrolone but with greater side effects.
Anavar is almost side effects free, and the sides you DO get from it are reversible.
Anavar mogs imo.

If you’re talking about them for bones, then it’s something else, i didn’t talk about how anavar is good for bones, I meant that it’s good for muscle mass.
But if you ARE talking about bone growth from then both are shit for it, it already won’t grow you any noticeable bonemass-

Yes. You would need fo target different pathways simultaneously

Nandrolone converts to DHN, which is a weak ass androgen in comparison to DHT. That’s bad for facial bone growth

Also you’re not getting “just bone effects” and skipping hair/skin. Nandrolone’s low androgenic rating is due to weak DHN at the skin, hair, CNS, but that includes bonemass in face aswell.

5ar expression is a lot higher in scalp tissue and near nonexistent in cortical bone. This means that the only dhn that will bind in bone is near negligible

Infact we do have rodent data to support nandrolone being more potent mg for mg than Testosterone and its downstream metabolites in cortical bone

DHN is also dogshit for building muscle so if the systemic effect of dhn was significant it would make nandrolone an ineffective steroid

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

It’s indeed retard. But made it clear for people here that you can’t get bonemass from HGH unless you’re blasting it.

I disagree tbh. My caveat for hgh through solely the igf-1 pathway will simply make you ugly.

Higher doses of hgh=/=higher igf

If depends on what you’re trying to get out of it tbh.
Nandrolone is way stronger but “stronger” doesn’t always mean better. You get better results out of nandrolone but with greater side effects.
Anavar is almost side effects free, and the sides you DO get from it are reversible.
Anavar mogs imo.

If you’re talking about them for bones, then it’s something else, i didn’t talk about how anavar is good for bones, I meant that it’s good for muscle mass.
But if you ARE talking about bone growth from then both are shit for it, it already won’t grow you any noticeable bonemass-

Yes. You would need fo target different pathways simultaneously

Nandrolone converts to DHN, which is a weak ass androgen in comparison to DHT. That’s bad for facial bone growth

Also you’re not getting “just bone effects” and skipping hair/skin. Nandrolone’s low androgenic rating is due to weak DHN at the skin, hair, CNS, but that includes bonemass in face aswell.

5ar expression is a lot higher in scalp tissue and near nonexistent in cortical bone. This means that the only dhn that will bind in bone is near negligible.

So you’re not getting a “bonus”. you’re getting a blunted androgen effect everywhere, not selective targeting of bone.

DHN is only really relevant in the scalp as thats a 5ar dense area. So we essentially are. This is why I preach nandrolone so much.
Its the only steroid which retains most its androgenic benefits while also mitigating essentially all its risks for hairloss

Infact we do have rodent data to support nandrolone being more potent mg for mg than Testosterone and its downstream metabolites in cortical bone

DHN is also dogshit for building muscle so if the systemic effect of dhn was significant it would make nandrolone an in

 

[Deleted member 138051]

I disagree tbh. My caveat for hgh through solely the igf-1 pathway will simply make you ugly.

Higher doses of hgh=/=higher igf

Yeah, I never said GH through IGF-1 is some perfect path. It’s bloated tissue unless you combine it with other stuff. My point was you gotta mega-dose to even get anything structural, and even then, most of what people think they’re getting is just water face and soft tissue spread.
True. GH sensitivity caps out quick. That’s why people blasting 12 IU still look like melted candle wax instead of grown men. IGF-1 peaks and sides just keep compounding. That’s the problem, it’s not scalable.

Yes. You would need fo target different pathways simultaneously

Exactly. Which is why pinning a single peptide thinking it’s gonna rebuild your orbital rim is peak delusion. If someone actually wants change, they need to “attack” it from multiple angles - GH, androgens, mechanical load, probably surgery too. Not one fucking peptide.

5ar expression is a lot higher in scalp tissue and near nonexistent in cortical bone. This means that the only dhn that will bind in bone is near negligible.

Fair. I undersold nandrolone in bone. DHN ain’t forming where there’s no 5AR, which means nand stays active in bone and could be more anabolic there than I gave credit.

DHN is only really relevant in the scalp as thats a 5ar dense area. So we essentially are. This is why I preach nandrolone so much.
Its the only steroid which retains most its androgenic benefits while also mitigating essentially all its risks for hairloss

Infact we do have rodent data to support nandrolone being more potent mg for mg than Testosterone and its downstream metabolites in cortical bone

DHN is also dogshit for building muscle so if the systemic effect of dhn was significant it would make nandrolone an in

But rodent femur mass ain’t human cheekbones. Doesn’t translate aesthetic-wise. Bone density ≠ visible change. Nand may have use if someone’s old and osteopenic, but it’s not building noticeable bonemass.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Yeah, I never said GH through IGF-1 is some perfect path. It’s bloated tissue unless you combine it with other stuff. My point was you gotta mega-dose to even get anything structural, and even then, most of what people think they’re getting is just water face and soft tissue spread.
True. GH sensitivity caps out quick. That’s why people blasting 12 IU still look like melted candle wax instead of grown men. IGF-1 peaks and sides just keep compounding. That’s the problem — it’s not scalable.

100% agree with everything

Exactly. Which is why pinning a single peptide thinking it’s gonna rebuild your orbital rim is peak delusion. If someone actually wants change, they need to “attack” it from multiple angles - GH, androgens, mechanical load, probably surgery too. Not one fucking peptide.

Tbh, not even GH + androgens seems to do the trick.
Most BBs are ugly as fuck

Fair. I undersold nandrolone in bone. DHN ain’t forming where there’s no 5AR, which means nand stays active in bone and could be more anabolic there than I gave credit.

But rodent femur mass ain’t human cheekbones. Doesn’t translate aesthetic-wise. Bone density ≠ visible change. Nand may have use if someone’s old and osteopenic, but it’s not building noticeable bonemass.

Yep. Nanny alone aint doing shit for a grown ass man.
Only one small part of the puzzle

 

[Inquisitor]

It’s indeed retard. But made it clear for people here that you can’t get bonemass from HGH unless you’re blasting it.

If depends on what you’re trying to get out of it tbh.
Nandrolone is way stronger but “stronger” doesn’t always mean better. You get better results out of nandrolone but with greater side effects.
Anavar is almost side effects free, and the sides you DO get from it are reversible.
Anavar mogs imo.

If you’re talking about them for bones, then it’s something else, i didn’t talk about how anavar is good for bones, I meant that it’s good for muscle mass.
But if you ARE talking about bone growth from then both are shit for it, it already won’t grow you any noticeable bonemass-

Nandrolone converts to DHN, which is a weak ass androgen in comparison to DHT. That’s bad for facial bone growth

Also you’re not getting “just bone effects” and skipping hair/skin. Nandrolone’s low androgenic rating is due to weak DHN at the skin, hair, CNS, but that includes bonemass in face aswell.
So you’re not getting a “bonus”. you’re getting a blunted androgen effect everywhere, not selective targeting of bone.

+ It has been shown that Anavar induces greater secretion of igf-1 locally in growth plates, and has been used for cdgp (constitutional delay in growth and puberty) affected children to help them grow taller and develop, and even after discontinuing its usage the bone mineralization % remained increased compared to the control group, as well as a big rebound effect in test (Anavar still suppresses test nonetheless, so watch out or couple with something like enclomiphene)

 

[Deleted member 138051]

(Anavar still suppresses test nonetheless, so watch out or couple with something like enclomiphene)

It was firm until you said this.


Your LH suppression that is caused by the anavar is going to reactivate after 1-3 months (dose dependent) after stopping the anavar. You don’t need enclo.

 

[Inquisitor]

It was firm until you said this.


Your LH suppression that is caused by the anavar is going to reactivate after 1-3 months (dose dependent) after stopping the anavar. You don’t need enclo.

I use to take 10mg Oxandrolone + 12.5mg enclo ED and my test levels remained 17ng above my usual baseline, plus recovering from the HOTA axis suppression of Anavar doesnt take 3 months, at most it take 1 month.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

Bump

 

[slaters]

Have u used mots c I was thinking maybe trying Dnp but I saw it kinda pokes holes in your mitochondria maybe mots can kinda help w that

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Have u used mots c I was thinking maybe trying Dnp but I saw it kinda pokes holes in your mitochondria maybe mots can kinda help w that

Oh yeah I read about it a long time ago.

Mots c is not potent enough to counter-act DNP’s side effects, DNP is very potent and mots c is weak compared to it as far as I remember.

 

[slaters]

Oh yeah I read about it a long time ago.

Mots c is not potent enough to counter-act DNP’s side effects, DNP is very potent and mots c is weak compared to it as far as I remember.

Yeah definitely not enough to counter Dnp but just a thought

 

[truecel12]

good post, hard to believe u joined april lol.
the anti-5ar inhibitors circlejerkers need to realise dut is one of the best looksmaxxes when you are past 18-19. better hair and skin for pennies and almost zero time cost.

and people overblow what hgh will do for you. unless you are starting really young (<14), even with the doses people normally run (6-10iu) if u get an inch above your predicted then you will already be lucky.

however, for me hgh was pretty fucking good for muscle growth, as long as you stay on it for a long time.
not just in terms of size(most of which is water retention) but also strength (160kg bench at 80kg). the best thing u get from hgh is that u recover faster and u dont have to worry about strain or overuse as long as your form is good.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Yeah definitely not enough to counter Dnp but just a thought

You can use it while on DNP, it just won’t h

good post, hard to believe u joined april lol.
the anti-5ar inhibitors circlejerkers need to realise dut is one of the best looksmaxxes when you are past 18-19. better hair and skin for pennies and almost zero time cost.

I was active on other forums for years.

and people overblow what hgh will do for you. unless you are starting really young (<14), even with the doses people normally run (6-10iu) if u get an inch above your predicted then you will already be lucky.

Agreed

however, for me hgh was pretty fucking good for muscle growth, as long as you stay on it for a long time.
not just in terms of size(most of which is water retention) but also strength (160kg bench at 80kg). the best thing u get from hgh is that u recover faster and u dont have to worry about strain or overuse as long as your form is good.

Yeah HGH is great, one of the most underrated compounds when it comes to to muscle growth.

 

[Foreverbrad]

MOTS-C and SS-31 sounds pretty interesting.
IGF1-LR3 also sounds pretty interesting as an alternative to high dose GH.

I think go into peptides assuming you’ve wasted your money and it will do nothing, then if you do get results it’s a pleasant surprise.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

IGF1-LR3 also sounds pretty interesting as an alternative to high dose GH.

IGF-1 lr3 is dogshit, you get way less benefits than you get with HGH and it’s less researched.

For now, HGH is better, but in the near few years I believe it will be more popular than HGH.

 

[chrishell]

IGF-1 lr3 is dogshit, you get way less benefits than you get with HGH and it’s less researched.

For now, HGH is better, but in the near few years I believe it will be more popular than HGH.

Im going to do just GHK-CU and BPC-157.

Is this enough?

Should I do anything else?

Let me know bro.

 

[yadih]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

mirin I'm gonna respond all the peptide/hgh posts with this thread

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Im going to do just GHK-CU and BPC-157.

Is this enough?

Should I do anything else?

Let me know bro.

Depends on your goals and age.

 

[chrishell]

Depends on your goals and age.

I am 28 and I want perfect skin and anti aging.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

I am 28 and I want perfect skin and anti aging.

Then both are great. I don’t think you need BPC tbh, just GHK-Cu is enough.

 

[chrishell]

Then both are great. I don’t think you need BPC tbh, just GHK-Cu is enough.

What is BPC best for

 

[iblameautistickids]

bookmarked

 

[iblameautistickids]

is injectable ghkcu with ru58841 good for hairloss during puberty (not tryna cope with minoxidils temp gains) (only norwood 1 i didnt lose too much and my hairloss has been slow since november 2024 (when i first noticed not sure exactly when it started) and what are some other good regrowth methods (not including minoxidil)

 

[Deleted member 138051]

What is BPC best for

For bones and muscle healing. It’s also boosting collagen but I see no point in running both.

is injectable ghkcu with ru58841 good for hairloss during puberty (not tryna cope with minoxidils temp gains) (only norwood 1 i didnt lose too much and my hairloss has been slow since november 2024 (when i first noticed not sure exactly when it started) and what are some other good regrowth methods (not including minoxidil)

Yes it should be good. But add minoxidil. GHK cu is also temporarily though (its stays more than topical minoxidil but it give less hair growth than minoxidil does, so run both.)

 

[iblameautistickids]

For bones and muscle healing. It’s also boosting collagen but I see no point in running both.

How old are you?

16 turning 17 in december and hit puberty at 13 (length stopped growing last year but girth is still growing)

 

[Deleted member 138051]

16 turning 17 in december and hit puberty at 13 (length stopped growing last year but girth is still growing)

Look, I edited the message.

 

[iblameautistickids]

Look, I edited the message.

alr then gonna use 2.5mg oral minoxidil 50mg ru idk bout gkcu dosing but will also add microneedling

(u recon injectable ghkcu is better then topical for hairloss (want the skin benifits as well)

 

[pablodave]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

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alr then gonna use 2.5mg oral minoxidil 50mg ru idk bout gkcu dosing but will also add microneedling

(u recon injectable ghkcu is better then topical for hairloss (want the skin benifits as well)

Don’t use oral minoxidil, use the topical one.
For GHK-Cu 2.5-5 mg is good.

GHK-Cu Injections are way more effective, topical are great aswell though.

 

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Don’t use oral minoxidil, use the topical one.
For GHK-Cu 2.5-5 mg is good.

GHK-Cu Injections are way more effective, topical are great aswell though.

isnt oral more effective, and if im a non responder i will go through months of further hairloss, my dad didnt respond to minoxidil