Stop relying on peptides alone

[pablodave]

Don’t use oral minoxidil, use the topical one.
For GHK-Cu 2.5-5 mg is good.

GHK-Cu Injections are way more effective, topical are great aswell though.

oral minoxidil does it better

 

[hej1377]

Ghrps and ghrhs are good even though they are overrated here, they still give good recovery, hcg is good too and mt2 can be good to get a tan with minimized damage

 

[jeff1234]

isnt oral more effective, and if im a non responder i will go through months of further hairloss, my dad didnt respond to minoxidil

Oral minoxidil only for hair loss is a no brainer, it won’t be that effective for it aswell, just get the topical one, it has almost no sides.

 

[jeff1234]

Ghrps and ghrhs are good even though they are overrated here, they still give good recovery, hcg is good too and mt2 can be good to get a tan with minimized damage

HCG is not a peptide and it’s an ancillary used to treat infertility…
MT2 is good tho I agree.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Nandrolone is way stronger but “stronger” doesn’t always mean better. You get better results out of nandrolone but with greater side effects.

Nandrolone is one of the safest steroids with barely any side effects. So what are the greater side effects ur talking about?

Anavar is almost side effects free, and the sides you DO get from it are reversible.

So Is nandrolone

Anavar mogs imo.

If you’re talking about them for bones, then it’s something else, i didn’t talk about how anavar is good for bones, I meant that it’s good for muscle mass.
But if you ARE talking about bone growth from then both are shit for it, it already won’t grow you any noticeable bonemass-

It’s scientifically proven that nandrolone is great for increasing bone density

The patients received intramuscular injections of placebo or 50 mg nandrolone decanoate every 3 weeks for 18 months. Thirty-two of the initial 46 patients completed 1 year of study and 25 completed the whole study period of 18 months. Overall, vertebral BMD increased by 2.9% in the nandrolone decanoate group and fell by 2.3% in the placebo group.


3% bone mass index increase with just 50mg every 3 weeks. Imagine what happens if he used 300mg a week.

Nandrolone converts to DHN, which is a weak ass androgen in comparison to DHT. That’s bad for facial bone growth

DHT doesn’t affect bone growth

Also you’re not getting “just bone effects” and skipping hair/skin. Nandrolone’s low androgenic rating is due to weak DHN at the skin, hair, CNS, but that includes bonemass in face aswell.

How exactly does that include bonemass in the face?

So you’re not getting a “bonus”. you’re getting a blunted androgen effect everywhere, not selective targeting of bone.

It’s literally proven to increase bonemass by 3% at minimal dose, of 50mg.


I have a wild guess that ur just a larper that doesn’t know shit nor never have you ever pinned yourself with anything.

 

[jeff1234]

Nandrolone is one of the safest steroids with barely any side effects. So what are the greater side effects ur talking about?

So Is nandrolone


It’s scientifically proven that nandrolone is great for increasing bone density

The patients received intramuscular injections of placebo or 50 mg nandrolone decanoate every 3 weeks for 18 months. Thirty-two of the initial 46 patients completed 1 year of study and 25 completed the whole study period of 18 months. Overall, vertebral BMD increased by 2.9% in the nandrolone decanoate group and fell by 2.3% in the placebo group.


3% bone mass index increase with just 50mg every 3 weeks. Imagine what happens if he used 300mg a week.


DHT doesn’t affect bone growth

How exactly does that include bonemass in the face?

It’s literally proven to increase bonemass by 3% at minimal dose, of 50mg.


I have a wild guess that ur just a larper that doesn’t know shit nor never have you ever pinned yourself with anything.

I never said nandrolone won’t give you bonemass, I said it won’t look aesthetic.
you’re mixing up clinical bone density improvements with visible aesthetic changes, look at the message you replied to again.

It’s scientifically proven that nandrolone is great for increasing bone density

The patients received intramuscular injections of placebo or 50 mg nandrolone decanoate every 3 weeks for 18 months. Thirty-two of the initial 46 patients completed 1 year of study and 25 completed the whole study period of 18 months. Overall, vertebral BMD increased by 2.9% in the nandrolone decanoate group and fell by 2.3% in the placebo group.


3% bone mass index increase with just 50mg every 3 weeks. Imagine what happens if he used 300mg a week.

Yeah, nandrolone has been proven to increase vertebral BMD in osteopenic patients…. that’s not the same as increasing facial bone mass to the point where it makes a difference in looksmaxxing. A 3% increase in spinal BMD from 50mg every 3 weeks is good for osteoporosis, but irrelevant for facial bonemass, it will look uncanny and not proportional.
Also it was in a clinical settings with low doses for people with fragile bones. Doesn’t mean it gives you aesthetic enhancement. There are also studies showing testosterone increases BMD….

Nandrolone is one of the safest steroids with barely any side effects. So what are the greater side effects ur talking about?

The sides are not that bad, but things like Progesterone receptor binding,libido suppression,ED (especially if you’re not running a test base), prolactin issues, CNS dulling, cardiovascular strain like HDL tanking.

These are reversible and mild most of the time, I over complimenting it I agree.

DHT doesn’t affect bone growth

It does, just very mildly.

How exactly does that include bonemass in the face?

Nandrolone converts mostly to dihydronandrolone, which is a weaker androgen at receptors in bone tissue in face.

I have a wild guess that ur just a larper that doesn’t know shit nor never have you ever pinned yourself with anything.

I have no reason to prove to you anything. There are people here on this site that can vouch that I started roids early, and even saw me inject them.

 

[hej1377]

HCG is not a peptide and it’s an ancillary used to treat infertility…
MT2 is good tho I agree.

Ancillqries can be peptides, hcg is a peptide hormone

 

[Evgeniy291]

I never said nandrolone won’t give you bonemass, I said it won’t look aesthetic.

No you specifically said they both are shit at giving you bonemass

you’re mixing up clinical bone density

Ur the one who said yesterday that bonemass = bone density

improvements with visible aesthetic changes, look at the message you replied to again.

I don’t see how enhanced bone growth in puberty wouldn’t mean bigger bones

Yeah, nandrolone has been proven to increase vertebral BMD in osteopenic patients…. that’s not the same as increasing facial bone mass to the point where it makes a difference in looksmaxxing. A 3% increase in spinal BMD from 50mg every 3 weeks is good for osteoporosis, but irrelevant for facial bonemass, it will look uncanny and not proportional.

It will look either uncanny or really good. You can’t know how more bonemass will look on some dude and if the sole purpose is to get more bonemass then it will work and it definitely isn’t shit

Also it was in a clinical settings with low doses for people with fragile bones. Doesn’t mean it gives you aesthetic enhancement. There are also studies showing testosterone increases BMD….

Increased bone growth will potentially give you aesthetic enhancement due to more striking features and improved angularity

The sides are not that bad, but things like Progesterone receptor binding,

Easy to avoid with cabergine

libido suppression,

It’s okay not like he’s going to fuck ahyone anyway

ED (especially if you’re not running a test base),

He’s not dumb he will run test base

prolactin issues,

Already said

CNS dulling,

What does that mean

cardiovascular strain like HDL tanking.

Testosterone also causes that btw.

These are reversible and mild most of the time, I over complimenting it I agree.

Yes

It does, just very mildly.

yes

Nandrolone converts mostly to dihydronandrolone, which is a weaker androgen at receptors in bone tissue in face.

Nandrolone itself still binds to ar’s and may stimulate bone growth

I have no reason to prove to you anything. There are people here on this site that can vouch that I started roids early, and even saw me inject them.

Ok

 

[jeff1234]

Ancillqries can be peptides, hcg is a peptide hormone

I never meant that peptides can’t be ancillaries, but hcg is not a peptide… it’s a glycoprotein.

 

[jeff1234]

Ur the one who said yesterday that bonemass = bone density

In medical terms, yeah bonemass usually refers to density (g/cm²), not volume or shape changes. That’s the whole point. An increase in BMD doesn’t mean your face bones change shape like during puberty, it don’t look aesthetic.

I don’t see how enhanced bone growth in puberty wouldn’t mean bigger bones

Puberty is a totally different. You’re dealing with open growth plates, rising hormones levels peaking. None of these steroids reopen sutures or plates. Using nandrolone at your 20s doesn’t mimic puberty.

It will look either uncanny or really good. You can’t know how more bonemass will look on some dude and if the sole purpose is to get more bonemass then it will work and it definitely isn’t shit

95% of the guys that will use any compound to enhance their facial bones will end up looking the same or looking worse.

Increased bone growth will potentially give you aesthetic enhancement due to more striking features and improved angularity

You’re talking like these TikTokers bruh. That’s just not true.
Potentially -> maybe -> not a solid strategy. You can say the same thing about GH, IGF-1 LR3, or even MK677. Doesn’t mean it always translates to good results. I’m arguing about reliability and aestheticsnot whether it’s biologically possible.

It’s okay not like he’s going to fuck ahyone anyway

What does that mean

CNS dulling just means you feel dead inside. You’re feeling nothing. Your emotions are blunted.

 

[Evgeniy291]

In medical terms, yeah bonemass usually refers to density (g/cm²), not volume or shape changes. That’s the whole point. An increase in BMD doesn’t mean your face bones change shape like during puberty, it don’t look aesthetic.

Puberty is a totally different. You’re dealing with open growth plates, rising hormones levels peaking. None of these steroids reopen sutures or plates. Using nandrolone at your 20s doesn’t mimic puberty.

Fair enough

95% of the guys that will use any compound to enhance their facial bones will end up looking the same or looking worse.

Can’t look worse as long as u do stuff for anti aging.
Even if it wouldn’t grow bones it will still affect fat distribution which will lead you to having a leaner face

You’re talking like these TikTokers bruh. That’s just not true.
Potentially -> maybe -> not a solid strategy. You can say the same thing about GH, IGF-1 LR3, or even MK677. Doesn’t mean it always translates to good results. I’m arguing about reliability and aestheticsnot whether it’s biologically possible.

I did notice bone growth or at least I’d like to think that I did. Someone else might not notice bone growth. It depends on how individual responds I can’t say everyone will react the same

CNS dulling just means you feel dead inside. You’re feeling nothing. Your emotions are blunted.

Haha noob

 

[hej1377]

I never meant that peptides can’t be ancillaries, but hcg is not a peptide… it’s a glycoprotein.

Again not mutually exclusive

 

[jeff1234]

Again not mutually exclusiveView attachment 3942312

I just checked, it’s both.

 

[hej1377]

I just checked, it’s both.

Yes

 

[jeff1234]

Yes

 

[e65man]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

hgh test and ai good for a first cycle?

 

[jeff1234]

hgh test and ai good for a first cycle?

Great.

 

[super_cuck69]

This short thread is going to offend people. Good. The peptide circlejerk on this forum has gotten completely out of control. Every new guy thinks they’re going to fix their bone structure or lean their face just by injecting some random copper peptide or growth hormone mimetic. Half of you can’t even explain what a peptide is, let alone how it works.
Let’s set the record straight. Peptides aren’t trash, they’re useful, but they are nowhere near the most important part of a serious looksmaxxing stack. If they’re the centerpiece of your plan, you don’t have a real plan.

There Is No Documented Case of Someone Transforming Their Facial Structure with Peptides Alone:
Every decent-looking “before/after” you’ve seen floating around this forum is an absolute fraud.they just lost weight, frauded, camera angle maxed and probably even edited some of their pics. Peptides don’t shift bone. They don’t lift your cheekbones. They don’t change eye area recession. At best, they can support a process that’s already happenin, if the other systems are optimized.
So if you want real change with peptides, you are going to need some very high dosages of peptides, with comes with great sides effects.

I’m not saying that peptides are shit, but running them as the foundation is retarded.


The only peptides you need-

-HGH for muscles and skin (maybe height and bone if you dose it higher than 10 iu a day).

-Retatrutide for weight loss.

- GHK-Cu and maybe even BPC-157 for skin, collagen.

That’s it, you don’t need to get your cycle to resolve around peptides. It’s all about hierarchy.

Your best cycle to do (goal-dependent tho) is HGH, anavar and testosterone.

Ancillaires - GHK-Cu, accutane, RU (and dut if you’re done with puberty) and an AI.

Peptides are great, but stop treating them like the foundation.

AMA if you didn’t understand or want to know about peptides more.

@Copercel @kazama

water

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

Should be water for anybody who actually did their own research and didn’t get all their info from random niggas on here

 

[jeff1234]

Should be water for anybody who actually did their own research and didn’t get all their info from random niggas on here

Yeah and it’s like 1% of the people here so…