Stopping Hairloss on cycle

[JustMog_Brutal]

Im planning a cycle in a month a or 2 and want to stop hairloss without fucking my dht systematically. I know finasteride and dutasteride and ru58841 are used but i've heard that ru58841 effects dht systematically too and so does even the topical versions of finasteride and dutasteride. I dont want to effect dht anywhere outside of scalp because i dont want to get rid of the slight chance of bone growth in some areas from the dht and i dont want it to fuck over my dih. Anyone have any ideas to prevent hairloss or have any expereince with these compounds to confirm if they go systematic?

 

[RetaRetaReta]

So you don't want hairloss, but you want to keep DHT in your system for supposed bone growth and you also want to run a roid cycle?

What else would you like? 20 inches of height?

 

[Jatt]

i dont want to get rid of the slight chance of bone growth in some areas from the dht and i dont want it to fuck over my dih.

age? you aint seeing shit hop on dut if above 18

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

So you don't want hairloss, but you want to keep DHT in your system for supposed bone growth and you also want to run a roid cycle?

What else would you like? 20 inches of height?

well topicals should be able to keep dht in my system but i just dont know to what extent they still go systematic

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

age? you aint seeing shit hop on dut if above 18

18, ive seen some data on brow ridge and mandible being able to slightly grow till 22 since they keep maturing till then

 

[2uul]

You don't need to sac the hair if you want continued bone growth while on cycle, oral blockers can slow down this process but will not halt it entirely. Only high adt can cause bone loss, get supps to keep vit D and calcium high
Look into bisphosphonates for decreased bone loss (bisphosphonates can cause minor hairloss). It won't matter much if you have a base of test because that will increase density
Topical hairloss treatment will not do anything impressive but dut and fin are a very good option orally; go low first and go up in dosage if you need, try not to go over 2.5 for dut
If you experience increased hairloss it might be genetic, people without aga will experience less hairloss since a cycle will accelerate aga.
Also, test might shrink the balls, the dih takes long term use before it happens
SOME bone continues to grow past 18, you are correct on the mandible and brow ridge but it will not be as significant as you might think. Think of it as those bones setting into place more than growing in size

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

SOME bone continues to grow past 18, you are correct on the mandible and brow ridge but it will not be as significant as you might think. Think of it as those bones setting into place more than growing in size

Yeah I know it wont be much but ill take anything atp

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

You don't need to sac the hair if you want continued bone growth while on cycle, oral blockers can slow down this process but will not halt it entirely. Only high adt can cause bone loss, get supps to keep vit D and calcium high
Look into bisphosphonates for decreased bone loss (bisphosphonates can cause minor hairloss). It won't matter much if you have a base of test because that will increase density
Topical hairloss treatment will not do anything impressive but dut and fin are a very good option orally; go low first and go up in dosage if you need, try not to go over 2.5 for dut
If you experience increased hairloss it might be genetic, people without aga will experience less hairloss since a cycle will accelerate aga.

Whats aga and adt?
You think id be fine without using any dut or fin, im on oral minoxodil right now which could help regrow hair.

 

[swapsocials]

Whats aga and adt?
You think id be fine without using any dut or fin, im on oral minoxodil right now which could help regrow hair.

Depends on what you’re running

 

[2uul]

Whats aga and adt?
You think id be fine without using any dut or fin, im on oral minoxodil right now which could help regrow hair.

Androgenetic alopecia (aga) and androgen deprivation (ad) (through medication).
You will need dut if you are running a cycle, minoxidil promotes growth but does not preserve hair or the follicle, once those follicles and strands begin thinning, they will grow back thin, ergo why you want dut to keep that from happening as much as possible. Oral minox on top of this can be a bit more powerful, careful about the bloat factor minox causes if you are worried about that.

You could wait a year or less, maybe more before running dut if you are scared of dht loss, though I will tell you that dht is not as important as it was when you were in peak puberty.

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

Depends on what you’re running

75mg test propionate daily

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

You could wait a year or less, maybe more before running dut if you are scared of dht loss, though I will tell you that dht is not as important as it was when you were in peak puberty.

I know its not as important but I just want to maximize benefits as much as possible. I could wait a year after the cycle ends to start dut and it'll still fix the hairloss?

 

[RetaRetaReta]

I know its not as important but I just want to maximize benefits as much as possible. I could wait a year after the cycle ends to start dut and it'll still fix the hairloss?

Don't play games with your hair. Most people don't regrow with dut. It's much easier to maintain exisiting hair than it is to regrow lost hair

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

Don't play games with your hair. Most people don't regrow with dut. It's much easier to maintain exisiting hair than it is to regrow lost hair

So just take dut or would RU58841 be good enough?

 

[llane9]

2.5 dut minimum or don't even bother roiding.

 

[llane9]

So just take dut or would RU58841 be good enough?

ru's not gonna be enough on it's own, run it as an adjunct treatment

 

[RetaRetaReta]

So just take dut or would RU58841 be good enough?

Forget DHT. Just nuke it with Dut.

 

[llane9]

if you're going to fall into some muh dht growing bones nonesense at the very least run fin with ru58841, you'll still have plenty of dht enhanced. i don't recommend u do this tho, all roads lead to dut.

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

if you're going to fall into some muh dht growing bones nonesense at the very least run fin with ru58841, you'll still have plenty of dht enhanced. i don't recommend u do this tho, all roads lead to dut.

Aren't there studies saying dut messes with your future kids dih size tho?

 

[2uul]

75mg test propionate daily

Actually not a bad dosage against hair, you will need pct so do some research meso has a lot of answers, are you using anything to stack on top of test?
I would recommend only using test c if you aren't getting prescription, it is usually safer blackmarket wise, has a better half life and better sustained hormone levels as well.
Minox and fin will be options to regrow, dut is more preservation which you can use once you regrow your hair reasonably post cycle

 

[llane9]

Aren't there studies saying dut messes with your future kids dih size tho?

not that i'm aware of, maybe some animal study nonsense. just come off when you want to conceive if you're worried.

 

[RetaRetaReta]

Aren't there studies saying dut messes with your future kids dih size tho?

The creators of Dut need to sue for this defamation because what in the fuck

It must be the people profiting from the hair transplant industry spreading this bullshit

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

Actually not a bad dosage against hair, you will need pct so do some research meso has a lot of answers, are you using anything to stack on top of test?
I would recommend only using test c if you aren't getting prescription, it is usually safer blackmarket wise, has a better half life and better sustained hormone levels as well.
Minox and fin will be options to regrow, dut is more preservation which you can use once you regrow your hair reasonably post cycle

I have my full protocol here ,Thread 'First Cycle' https://looksmax.org/threads/first-cycle.1755271/

Test p I thought would give more stable levels since it is daily. How would pct regrow hair?

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

not that i'm aware of, maybe some animal study nonsense. just come off when you want to conceive if you're worried.

Ill only be on for 16 weeks anyways

 

[2uul]

You can of course try either Test P or C. Test P usually has more PIP and requires frequent injection which means more contamination chances. On your cycle, it is not a bad stack, though your pct could be better since you are dosing aromasin a bit too low, you can get away with upping to 8. You can bump hcg iu and twice to once a week is good, 250iu is a bit low for your pct you might not see good natural test results on a low dose post cycle. aromasin during pct won't hurt. Nolvadex is good, not so sure you will need cialis. Clomid might be useful, but you are already using nolvadex. Get bloodwork and adjust accordingly
Do you use meso? They have alot of cycle advice there, I suggest you check it out
To answer your hair growth question, it won't grow the follicles back once those die. It will regrow the strands and add some thickness to thinned hair. This is why most recommend dut to preserve those follicles.

 

[hej1377]

Ru58841 does not go systemic

Also look i to this
Thread 'ASC-J9, Lifefuel for NW+roidcells?' https://looksmax.org/threads/asc-j9-lifefuel-for-nw-roidcells.1745439/

 

[JustMog_Brutal]

You can of course try either Test P or C. Test P usually has more PIP and requires frequent injection which means more contamination chances. On your cycle, it is not a bad stack, though your pct could be better since you are dosing aromasin a bit too low, you can get away with upping to 8. You can bump hcg iu and twice to once a week is good, 250iu is a bit low for your pct you might not see good natural test results on a low dose post cycle. aromasin during pct won't hurt. Nolvadex is good, not so sure you will need cialis. Clomid might be useful, but you are already using nolvadex. Get bloodwork and adjust accordingly
Do you use meso? They have alot of cycle advice there, I suggest you check it out
To answer your hair growth question, it won't grow the follicles back once those die. It will regrow the strands and add some thickness to thinned hair. This is why most recommend dut to preserve those follicles.

ill have bloodwork and adjust the aromasin accordingly, was thinking of doing the low dose of hcg throoughout the cycle to keep testies from fully shutting down or shrinking and then doing 1000iu a week at the end to fully grow them back and get them back to normal or better. Ive looked at meso, i mostly used anabolicminds, i think what ill do is order dut with my roids and if i start seeing hairloss ill hop on, since it is partly genetic, and if i see no hair loss or little hairloss then ill use dut for a year after pct do make any hair folicules that were effected thicker.