Suicide bomber kill 22 and injured 66 people in a full church in syria

[loyolaxavvierretard]

The entire region is radicalised, its not just Islam. You think Christian Arabs are good ?

 

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Go read history, you brainless dog. The only religion that spread organically is Islam. When Muslims take over a state, they can’t force you to become Muslim.

Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.1 So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing
Quran 2:256

Christianity spread through the colonization of the New World and the Byzantine Empire, where people were either forced to convert or killed. You say, ‘Did you know the Middle East was Christian?’ This is pure bullshit. The only Christians in the Middle East were the Byzantines and a few other converts, before them, people were pagans. And before Christianity, there was Judaism. So what now? Because they wanted to convert to Islam willingly you want them forcefully reconverted to Christianity like your ancestors did. What are you going to do about that? Everything you claim Islam did, Christianity actually did. Look at the mass murders committed by Christians during the First and Second Crusades, let alone the rest. Your scream is just projection and an admission of guilt.

I’ve got nothing against Christianity, but it’s always you guys getting butthurt when your religion gets mocked. Then you turn around and say, ‘What about Islam?’ or act triggered when Islam is spoken about positively. That alone says enough about the fear you have of the truth.

Muslims obviously didn't follow the verses of the Quran as they killed those that didn't wanna convert. And yes Islam was spread through war

 

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Christianity spread through the colonization of the New World and the Byzantine Empire, where people were either forced to convert or killed. You say, ‘Did you know the Middle East was Christian?’ This is pure bullshit. The only Christians in the Middle East were the Byzantines and a few other converts, before them, people were pagans. And before Christianity, there was Judaism. So what now? Because they wanted to convert to Islam willingly you want them forcefully reconverted to Christianity like your ancestors did.

Christianity was indeed spread through colonization of Africa but didn't the Muslim do it first? European christian weren't that active in Africa in 1500s but Muslims were already their and had colonize it earlier leading to the Arab slave trade.

 

[emeraldglass]

Muslims obviously didn't follow the verses of the Quran as they killed those that didn't wanna convert.

I agree partially, but not in the early decades, it came much, much later, centuries after. And that actually weakens your own argument that Islam itself is evil, because by admitting this, you’re showing it wasn’t the religion that was flawed, but rather how people acted over time.

And yes Islam was spread through war

The early Islamic expansions were primarily defensive, sparked by persecution from the polytheists who boycotted, oppressed, and killed Muslims. Later wars with the Byzantine and Persian empires were because of justice, many people living under those empires wanted to embrace Islam, but their rulers forbade it. These people sent letters to the Muslims asking for help, and so the Muslims intervened to liberate them, defending their right to choose and practice their religion freely.

 

[emeraldglass]

Christianity was indeed spread through colonization of Africa but didn't the Muslim do it first? European christian weren't that active in Africa in 1500s but Muslims were already their and had colonize it earlier leading to the Arab slave trade.

That’s not true. Muslims were in Africa earlier, that’s true. But conversions there mostly happened through trade and peaceful contact, this is well documented in history. In contrast, Christians went to the Americas, killed the native populations, and forced conversions. The same happened with African slaves, who were stripped of their beliefs and made to convert. After the Reconquista in Spain, Muslims and Jews were also forced to convert or face death. So if we’re comparing, the spread of Islam was largely organic, while Christianity often spread through violence and coercion.

 

[Toggle9877]

I agree partially, but not in the early decades, it came much, much later, centuries after. And that actually weakens your own argument that Islam itself is evil, because by admitting this, you’re showing it wasn’t the religion that was flawed, but rather how people acted over time.

The early Islamic expansions were primarily defensive, sparked by persecution from the polytheists who boycotted, oppressed, and killed Muslims. Later wars with the Byzantine and Persian empires were because of justice, many people living under those empires wanted to embrace Islam, but their rulers forbade it. These people sent letters to the Muslims asking for help, and so the Muslims intervened to liberate them, defending their right to choose and practice their religion freely.

I agree with that early Islam were percetuted just like Christianity but the reason they attack both the Persian and eastern roman empire was to spread Islam and they successfully did it.Liberation wasn't their priority, spreading Islam was.

 

[Toggle9877]

That’s not true. Muslims were in Africa earlier, that’s true. But conversions there mostly happened through trade and peaceful contact, this is well documented in history. In contrast, Christians went to the Americas, killed the native populations, and forced conversions. The same happened with African slaves, who were stripped of their beliefs and made to convert. After the Reconquista in Spain, Muslims and Jews were also forced to convert or face death. So if we’re comparing, the spread of Islam was largely organic, while Christianity often spread through violence and coercion.

Trades??? They enslaved africans longer than Europeans and also castrated them so can't reproduce. And I'm not Europeans myself but most natives in America died to diseases carried by dirty europeans

 

[RODEBLUR]

No he probably fucked a couple 6 year old before he bombed a church

hot

 

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hot

I expected better from you but your no different from most incels here

 

[RODEBLUR]

I expected better from you but your no different from most incels here

why

 

[Toggle9877]

why

You seemed kinda cool

 

[RODEBLUR]

You seemed kinda cool

are you trying to imply 6 year olds are not hot

 

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are you trying to imply 6 year olds are not hot

Yes

 

[RODEBLUR]

Yes

Wtf man

 

[Toggle9877]

This thread just spike my cortisol levels

 

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I agree with that early Islam were persecuted just like Christianity but the reason they attack both the Persian and eastern roman empire was to spread Islam and they successfully did it.Liberation wasn't their priority, spreading Islam was.

 

[emeraldglass]

I agree with that early Islam were percetuted just like Christianity but the reason they attack both the Persian and eastern roman empire was to spread Islam and they successfully did it.Liberation wasn't their priority, spreading Islam was.

The early Muslim conquests were, at their heart, a response to a world choked by religious tyranny. In Byzantine and Sassanian lands, freedom of belief was crushed, Christians who didn’t toe the imperial theological line were tortured or exiled, Jews were second class citizens, and new spiritual ideas, like Islam, had no place to exist.

Byzantine was religiously intolerant. Example is the persecution of Monophysite Christians (like the Copts in Egypt and Syriacs in the Levant)

The Byzantine state enforced Chalcedonian Christianity through the council of Chalcedon in 451 CE. Non-Chalcedonian Christians were branded heretics, excluded from church leadership, heavily taxed, imprisoned, or killed.

These Christians were already treated as enemies by Byzantium, if the empire treated fellow Christians this way, imagine what fate Islam would have faced.

Same with the Sassanids, the Sassanids executed spiritual thinkers, from Mani to Christian leaders. A new monotheistic revelation like Islam would never have survived their fire temples.

 

[emeraldglass]

Trades??? They enslaved africans longer than Europeans and also castrated them so can't reproduce. And I'm not Europeans myself but most natives in America died to diseases carried by dirty europeans

Let’s separate facts from anger here bro. Yes, both Muslim and Europeans engaged in slavery. But the idea that Islam spread in Africa solely through slavery is historically bullshit. Islam spread through trade and also through voluntary conversions, local scholars, Sufi brotherhoods, and African kings who adopted Islam for both spiritual and political reasons. You don’t build cities like Timbuktu or Kano, centers of Islamic learning on chains. You build them on ideas.

Early Muslims had slaves that’s true. But the European Atlantic slave trade shipped millions in brutal conditions, stripped them of identity, and created racialized slavery, a concept that didn’t exist in the same way in Islamic systems. In most Muslim lands, slavery wasn’t racial, and freeing slaves was religiously encouraged.

And blaming disease deaths in the Americas on dirty Europeans is just low iq tactic. Yes, they carried viruses, but they also committed genocide, forced labor, cultural erasure. Don’t hide behind germs to excuse what came with them, conquest and colonization.

 

[Toggle9877]

Let’s separate facts from anger here bro. Yes, both Muslim and Europeans engaged in slavery. But the idea that Islam spread in Africa solely through slavery is historically bullshit. Islam spread through trade and also through voluntary conversions, local scholars, Sufi brotherhoods, and African kings who adopted Islam for both spiritual and political reasons. You don’t build cities like Timbuktu or Kano, centers of Islamic learning on chains. You build them on ideas.

Agreed with everything you said in here

Early Muslims had slaves that’s true. But the European Atlantic slave trade shipped millions in brutal conditions, stripped them of identity, and created racialized slavery, a concept that didn’t exist in the same way in Islamic systems. In most Muslim lands, slavery wasn’t racial, and freeing slaves was religiously encouraged.

And blaming disease deaths in the Americas on dirty Europeans is just low iq tactic. Yes, they carried viruses, but they also committed genocide, forced labor, cultural erasure. Don’t hide behind germs to excuse what came with them, conquest and colonization.

Muslims were as brutal as Europeans with the way they treated the slaves. I don't know how much because this is vaguely from memory but around 10-18 million africans were enslaved and some died in the middle of the Sahara desert when they were shipped. I yes White/European created the concept racial slavery but don't Arab have derogatory term for black people?.



90% of natives died from diseases carried by European. In Mexico I think before the Spaniards arrive the population was around 25mill and then dwindled down to 2mill in less than a century, the same happened to the natives in the us. But what European and Arab did to Africa is simply not excusable.

 

[superpsycho]

brutal

 

[james sapphire]

fuck islam

 

[Toggle9877]

The early Muslim conquests were, at their heart, a response to a world choked by religious tyranny. In Byzantine and Sassanian lands, freedom of belief was crushed, Christians who didn’t toe the imperial theological line were tortured or exiled, Jews were second class citizens, and new spiritual ideas, like Islam, had no place to exist.

Byzantine was religiously intolerant. Example is the persecution of Monophysite Christians (like the Copts in Egypt and Syriacs in the Levant)

The Byzantine state enforced Chalcedonian Christianity through the council of Chalcedon in 451 CE. Non-Chalcedonian Christians were branded heretics, excluded from church leadership, heavily taxed, imprisoned, or killed.

These Christians were already treated as enemies by Byzantium, if the empire treated fellow Christians this way, imagine what fate Islam would have faced.

Same with the Sassanids, the Sassanids executed spiritual thinkers, from Mani to Christian leaders. A new monotheistic revelation like Islam would never have survived their fire temples.

No it was partially because they wanted to spread Islam and to gain power from defeating two weakened empire. And I agree that the population saw them as liberators at first at both the Eastern roman empire and Persia had gone corrupt

 

[iblamexyz]

FUCK MUSLIMS THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD NUKE THEM THEY ARE CANCEROUS

religion of peace btw

 

[iblamexyz]

fuck islam

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