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What surgery should i get for an overbite?
No budget
No budget
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Go to France they make bimax for 3-5 k and genio for 2kWhat surgery should i get for an overbite?
No budget
What are your thoughts on Valerio Ramieri's infrazygo PEEK implants?Go to France they make bimax for 3-5 k and genio for 2k
Non Jews?Go to France they make bimax for 3-5 k and genio for 2k
Why aren't you going to do bimax in France yourself ?Go to France they make bimax for 3-5 k and genio for 2k
I would avoid them they have the reputation of being bluepilled but they are very cheap.Why aren't you going to do bimax in France yourself ?
Jean-Baptiste Charrier
Serge Ketoff
Pierre Bouletreu
Didier Ernenwein
Gonzague Deffrennes
Emmanuel Racy
Frederic Barere
Pierre Olivi
Jacques Yachouh
Jacques Chardain
Amaury Gindre
Jean-Christophe Lutz
Thoughts on these surgeons ?
Raffaini for 40kWho do yall reccomend me to go to for bimax?
Bite ramps cause skin sagging post treatment no?Invisalign with bite ramps, BSSO
They do? If so you can use plasma fibroblasts for thatBite ramps cause skin sagging post treatment no?
Pretty sure, takes about a year during that time the ramps press against the insides of your cheeks and stretch the skin, it can in some cases cause it if your skin lacks in collagen or you're not very young. Up to genetics aswell.They do? If so you can use plasma fibroblasts for that
update pleaseI would avoid them they have the reputation of being bluepilled but they are very cheap.
Some offering chin wing for 4k and bimax for 3-5k
I'm french and have sleep apnea so literally could pay 1500-2k € out of pocket but Bimax + genio .
However trimax can only be done once and I only trust Ramieri to solve my overbite and narrow jaw issue, need ramus widening, rotation.
French surgeon wouldn't do much CCW, linear movement, lot of them look unimpressive.
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Started ortho 3 weeks ago for overbiteupdate please
I'm french and had a consultation with Raffaini, still considering getting some consultation with French surgerons (Julien Davrou has a good reputation)
How is your progress towards your goal so far
Bon j’imagine tes French alorsStarted ortho 3 weeks ago for overbite
French Ortho will contact Ramieri at 6 months mark to tell him progress, I will then have an online consultation in October/November with Ramieri to express my basic plans, movements, custom plates, ramus widening, sliding genio in 3 dimensions , maxilla downgrafting
Then 2 months before surgery in early 2026 I will need to fly to Rome to get CBT scan there after my teeth are fully aligned
The same day I will stayed at Ramieri clinic and we will start 3D planning , do movements I want , then Ramieri tell his opinion on feasibility, chimp lips risk with alar base flaring associated with bigger movements, soft tissue limitations, what bone grafts I would need to do this and that
Once we agreed one a plan I fly home until surgery date is fixed
I made a complete plan already with Chat GPT, precising I will work with Ramieri and surprisingly ai knows Ramieri style, limitation and do very realistic morphs using your x ray, real photos, and show you post op results with plan precisely that I can share in DM
Finally I chose Ramieri because I think he's the best for ascending people with deformities like class 2 or 3 malocclusion out of the 3 Italians surgeons
Raffaini is an asshole narcy , cost 40k , don't use custom plates , don't do genio on 3 dimensions movements, don't listen to plan.
Pagnoni is also a good choice and also use custom plates and listen to your plan
Finally I won't trust any french surgeon because I want a drastic , custom plates with bonegrafts and maxilla downgrafting change.
But Devroux must be good for someone with a class 1 bite , flat occlusional plane, no short lower third that only need sagittal BSSO and other straight movements to ascend and must be cheaper for French or even foreigners like 5-7k