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I've spent over a year consulting different surgeons, I'm going to condense my opinions in this short post. Going over the most effective hardmax solutions for majorly beneficial results. This post will be going over procedures that are mentioned here often, I won't be going into unpopular / niche surgeries, nor will I be going into combination surgeries offered as branded packages by specific surgeons.

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Few key notes:

- I will not be including any major maxillofacial surgeries, to get these surgeries, you should be a candidate (this means you have functional issues from improper bone development, and or MAJOR recession, in most posts about bimax on here, the poster wouldn't even benefit from a bimax). HAVING SAID THAT, if you are a candidate, a maxfac is going to be the most important surgery you get

- I will not be including LL, OBO, or any other retarded surgery, your health should come first before anything, a healthy man has 1000 wishes, a sick man has one, don't risk your health on outlandishly risky surgeries

- The type of surgeries that you will benefit from will depend on your face (obviously), that is to say, what works for one person, may not work for you, its important to asses your base and understand where to go from there

- Please assess your base and understand what you need to focus on, what works for one person may not work for another, spend the time and please do your fucking research

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Top tier surgeries (and how they can be utilized):
  • Facial fat transfer (and to a lesser extent, filler), this is number one, because of how versatile it is, you can correct MAJOR falios with fat transfers, the best use case is perhaps fat into the periorbital regions (will fix hollow eyes, reduce or completely remove uee (oculoplastic surgeons will refer to this as a superior sulcus repair), provide hooding (unless you're genuinely bug eyed then you need OD), make you look younger and healthier) and undereye (if you have sunken undereye, fat transfers are often paired with infraorbital implants and end up doing all the heavy lifting, the patient could've skipped the implant
    • Having said all this, I can't stress enough the importance of getting an experienced surgeon to perform these procedures, there are serious risks associated with injecting fat into arteries, so ensure that your surgeon is familiar with injecting into the areas you want, and is thoroughly educated on safety precautions like cannula sizes etc. this goes for all surgeries really

  • Temporal / malar lift, yes... facelift is second on the list, why? Because manipulating soft tissue is one of the best ways to improve the way you look. Again, very versatile, lifts can be lateral, with slight horizontal elevation, this is most cases is perfect for men, try it yourself, touch your index fingers to your malar or temple region and around your eyes until you find a position you like, all these positions are possible
    • I understand that soft tissue work is considered risky on here due to the nature of how unpredictable it is, but from what I've seen, results have improved year on year, I see more GOOD results than I do bad ones, a few years ago this wasn't the case, but surgeons who specialize in these procedures seem to be perfecting their craft, so now is a good time to consider

  • Custom cheekbone implants, most people have shitty zygos, what's more, you can have a well developed maxilla and still have shit zygos, cheekbone implants need to be well designed, and you NEED to go with a surgeon who understands aesthetics, and takes into account your specific case (most people I see on here would benefit from more anterior projection, while being conservative on lateral), whatever you do, DO NOT get off the shelf "submalar" implants, you will look bloated, the implant should start high on the cheekbone, and extend out to cover the sides (malar region)

  • Genioplasty, this is a surgery that will be performed by a maxfac, however I do not consider it to be a major procedure, atleast not to the extent of a bimax, if your chin is recessed, get a genio, there are posts that go into why this is such an effective surgery, you can find them, very good and versatile surgery, there are a range of different types of genios (different cuts which will provide a different end result), consult an experienced max fac on this

  • Rhinoplasty, a bad nose can throw off otherwise good harmony, rhino can fix this, improving not only side profile, but also front profile (fixing a bulbous nose from the front is always to good effect), however working on the tip of the nose is tricky so make sure you find a surgeon who is experienced on working on your nose type, consult multiple docs and see what they say

  • Hair transplant, kind of goes without saying but if you're balding get a fucking hair transplant, unless you're in the 0.1% of men who look better bald
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There it is, my humble opinion on some of the best surgeries you can get, these surgeries will provide the most noticeable changes to your face, although they can be subtle if you wish to be conservative, feel free to share with me your opinions on this.
 
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I've spent over a year consulting different surgeons, I'm going to condense my opinions in this short post. Going over the most effective hardmax solutions for majorly beneficial results. This post will be going over procedures that are mentioned here often, I won't be going into unpopular / niche surgeries, nor will I be going into combination surgeries offered as branded packages by specific surgeons.

----

Few key notes:

- I will not be including any major maxillofacial surgeries, to get these surgeries, you should be a candidate (this means you have functional issues from improper bone development, and or MAJOR recession, in most posts about bimax on here, the poster wouldn't even benefit from a bimax). HAVING SAID THAT, if you are a candidate, a maxfac is going to be the most important surgery you get

- I will not be including LL, OBO, or any other retarded surgery, your health should come first before anything, a healthy man has 1000 wishes, a sick man has one, don't risk your health on outlandishly risky surgeries

- The type of surgeries that you will benefit from will depend on your face (obviously), that is to say, what works for one person, may not work for you, its important to asses your base and understand where to go from there

- Please assess your base and understand what you need to focus on, what works for one person may not work for another, spend the time and please do your fucking research

----

Top tier surgeries (and how they can be utilized):
  • Facial fat transfer (and to a lesser extent, filler), this is number one, because of how versatile it is, you can correct MAJOR falios with fat transfers, the best use case is perhaps fat into the periorbital regions (will fix hollow eyes, reduce or completely remove uee (oculoplastic surgeons will refer to this as a superior sulcus repair), provide hooding (unless you're genuinely bug eyed then you need OD), make you look younger and healthier) and undereye (if you have sunken undereye, fat transfers are often paired with infraorbital implants and end up doing all the heavy lifting, the patient could've skipped the implant
    • Having said all this, I can't stress enough the importance of getting an experienced surgeon to perform these procedures, there are serious risks associated with injecting fat into arteries, so ensure that your surgeon is familiar with injecting into the areas you want, and is thoroughly educated on safety precautions like cannula sizes etc. this goes for all surgeries really

  • Temporal / malar lift, yes... facelift is second on the list, why? Because manipulating soft tissue is one of the best ways to improve the way you look. Again, very versatile, lifts can be lateral, with slight horizontal elevation, this is most cases is perfect for men, try it yourself, touch your index fingers to your malar or temple region and around your eyes until you find a position you like, all these positions are possible
    • I understand that soft tissue work is considered risky on here due to the nature of how unpredictable it is, but from what I've seen, results have improved year on year, I see more GOOD results than I do bad ones, a few years ago this wasn't the case, but surgeons who specialize in these procedures seem to be perfecting their craft, so now is a good time to consider

  • Custom cheekbone implants, most people have shitty zygos, what's more, you can have a well developed maxilla and still have shit zygos, cheekbone implants need to be well designed, and you NEED to go with a surgeon who understands aesthetics, and takes into account your specific case (most people I see on here would benefit from more anterior projection, while being conservative on lateral), whatever you do, DO NOT get off the shelf "submalar" implants, you will look bloated, the implant should start high on the cheekbone, and extend out to cover the sides (malar region)

  • Genioplasty, this is a surgery that will be performed by a maxfac, however I do not consider it to be a major procedure, atleast not to the extent of a bimax, if your chin is recessed, get a genio, there are posts that go into why this is such an effective surgery, you can find them, very good and versatile surgery, there are a range of different types of genios (different cuts which will provide a different end result), consult an experienced max fac on this

  • Rhinoplasty, a bad nose can throw off otherwise good harmony, rhino can fix this, improving not only side profile, but also front profile (fixing a bulbous nose from the front is always to good effect), however working on the tip of the nose is tricky so make sure you find a surgeon who is experienced on working on your nose type, consult multiple docs and see what they say

  • Hair transplant, kind of goes without saying but if you're balding get a fucking hair transplant, unless you're in the 0.1% of men who look better bald
----

There it is, my humble opinion on some of the best surgeries you can get, these surgeries will provide the most noticeable changes to your face, although they can be subtle if you wish to be conservative, feel free to share with me your opinions on this.
cant you just reduce it to like 1 sentance?
 
cant you just reduce it to like 1 sentance?
No you must unfuck your dopamine raped brain and fix your attention span, thats arguably going to help you more than any surgery will
 
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