I see. I guess I don't know enough about what qualifies someone for 'surgery first'.
From my understanding it's largely about the state of your teeth/how bad your current bite is. Truly bad bites that haven't had any orthodontic treatment, with crooked/crowded teeth aren't a candidate for surgery first.
I wonder why. In my head if you move your jaws forward by the same amount each then your bite is exactly as it was before, then you can get braces to fix your bite! I guess not though. And yeah, from what you say, it's basically a certainty that I wouldn't qualify either.
Tbh Idk though, different surgeons might say different things. Only way to know is by speaking to them and see what they say. This shit is stressful though.
The thing is that bimax movement are not 100% accurate, so the bite will not land exactly where its planned. If you go to insurance doctor he will say its a succes if its within 2-4 mm( i am not kidding, this is even a rule for a "failed bimax according to studies lol") if you go to a good surgeon he will be within 1-2 mm, peobably less then 1. But this small diffrence if you have crooked teeth then your bite might land weird on some teeth which creates a instability. many bimax cases needs bands or elastics to keep bite together for the first few weeks, but if it is terribly wrong occlusion this wouldnt work, especially crooked teeth. And without the bands and elastics the bite may shift and stay there
The only bad thing is that the orthos he is contact with is often international and not necessarily the best. And they usually more expensive. But you can allways find a prtho yourself and tell him to be in Contact with him, but the ortho need to have some experince in bimax cases and also know the technical tools
Don't take @kingofkings seriously he's a troll
That's true
Its better to see the surgeon if you do it for aesthetics. Both the italian surgeons change their plan when they saw me irl. And both said its much better to be seen irl so they can see the soft tissue etc. Weirdly enough, raffaini actually have reason on why he want irl consultations, its litteraly easier for them to only have online but he is aesthetic focuesed and knows the importance of seeing the person irl. If you pay and 25k and only go there on surgery date i kinda feel bad
So after an online consultation and getting braces fitted, it's a good idea to go there in person for them to see you way before the surgery date?
Ideally you want to go there first, but yea you should see them and discuss the plan in person when they see your face infront of them and also take photos of you irl. Its ridiculous if you dont do it. And yes many surgeons because they want customer want say it as demand because they know they would lose customers from it. But if you yourself pay 25 k and dont let the surgeonnsee your face in person and see what kind of soft features you have then you are a idiot. Ofc its eazy to plan thru ct scan only but there are def consideration in the plan that have value if they see you in person.
True tbf, it would only be going to Rome for 1-2 days right? travel costs would be cheap from EU
Yea, considering the cost of surgery its nothing
bimax is good when you get it for free?
Yeah I definitely agree it’s best to meet the surgeon for a consult before planning begins, but a surprising amount of people don’t do this. I met all the surgeons I considered going with other than a US based one. The Italians picked up on things in person that they didn’t pick up on over the initial video call.
Yea cantho, lip lift and rhino where you build the bridge with rib cartilage also yield good result. You can also use cartiallge to slightly improve paranasal aswell.
bump
Yes i guess, becasue then you also have functional issues
I wouldnt trust a surgeon on a normal hospital for aesthetic bimax
never do fillers implant and genio mog hard
u got a 16 mm advancement withh 8mm genio??? who tf preformed that“bimax doesn’t change the front” .. at least in my experience this is completely and absolutely false.
My front and side went from subhuman to pretty amazing already and I’m not even close to 6 months post op yet.
I used to have a double chin fat neck from the front, you literally could NOT see any separation of my jaw and neck from the front. Now I have a defined and sharp face from the front and major separation between chin, jaw, and neck. My nose looks smaller from the front. My cheeks, as I got HA grafts on them at the same time, pop now too.
With Bimax it’s literally all about the surgeon. Most people look normal/avg after because thats the goal for most surgeons. If you asked any random insurance provider surgeon if he can advance a mandible 16mm with CCW and throw a 8mm genio on top he’d probably shit his pants on the spot. He’d say “you need 4mm to fit the bite”
Save up money and pick a good surgeon. Dont be a cheap retard and pick an insurance surgeon unless you want to be disappointed.
Probably some bluepilled insurance surgeon in kenya
You literally cannot read and you’re tagging me in replies
State of org when you think i am seriousApparently you can’t read either.
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