Surgery is for Creating Halos, Not Fixing Failos

[ascentium]

Title

a lot of surgerycels get distracted with hunting down failos to fix under the guise of “muh averages” theory.

strikingly attractive men typically have some cranial facial deformities & are a few s.d. from the mean on a given metric. of course, not to cope, this typically means abnormal amounts of sagittal and transverse growth & a compact coronal dimension, but ante gonial notches, flat OPs & mandibular prognathicism (class III tendency) are typical ‘Chad traits’ yet considered deformities in a clinical context.

projected into the surgeryspace, most often we will see the best ascensions when the cel decides to preserve his deformity but to offset it with a striking halo. For example, saiyan has a transversely deficient maxilla, but in lieu of coping with sarpe, marpe or segmental lefort, he just paid Eppley to give him insane zygos & now he’s at least Chadlite. Furthermore, lordmadness has excessive midface length & suboptimal fwhr; he ascended from bird to htn by pulling his jaws forward with bimax, and now he can get laid, despite be transversely deficient & having recessed orbitals.

You’re not going to fix ever failo. Surgery has its costs and limitations. And besides we aren’t here to become average. Often the best option is to stick a big ass piece of silicon in your face & move on with your life. Other times it pays to have a Mumbai surgeon perform your bimax for $4K usd.

stop coping with fixing failos and start ascended with big ass implants and big ass movements. Halos are just that. They can offset deficiencies in other dimensions.

 

[ascentium]

surgery has never been proven to improve someone's looks anyways

most of the results are underwhelming

WE SHOULD BE KILLING OURSELVES CONSTANTLY TO BE REBORN AS CHAD

the only cases I’ve seen a true ascension is when people ignore the high IQ bimaxfirsters & just stick a piece of silicon in their midface or just get a big ass wrap around from Eppley.

 

[here]

the only cases I’ve seen a true ascension is when people ignore the high IQ bimaxfirsters & just stick a piece of silicon in their midface or just get a big ass wrap around from Eppley.

can you post an example of these

 

[ascentium]

can you post an example of these

see saiyan’s zygo implant. He has a narrow maxilla but he just stuck a piece of silicon in his upper face and slays now. He would have been 80k deep into bimax and osteotomies, and correctional rhino from alar widening but he skipped all that noise by creating zygos halo.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

I absolutely disagree

 

[ascentium]

I absolutely disagree

strong argument

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Title

a lot of surgerycels get distracted with hunting down failos to fix under the guise of “muh averages” theory.

strikingly attractive men typically have some cranial facial deformities & are a few s.d. from the mean on a given metric. of course, not to cope, this typically means abnormal amounts of sagittal and transverse growth & a compact coronal dimension, but ante gonial notches, flat OPs & mandibular prognathicism (class III tendency) are typical ‘Chad traits’ yet considered deformities in a clinical context.

projected into the surgeryspace, most often we will see the best ascensions when the cel decides to preserve his deformity but to offset it with a striking halo. For example, saiyan has a transversely deficient maxilla, but in lieu of coping with sarpe, marpe or segmental lefort, he just paid Eppley to give him insane zygos & now he’s at least Chadlite. Furthermore, lordmadness has excessive midface length & suboptimal fwhr; he ascended from bird to htn by pulling his jaws forward with bimax, and now he can get laid, despite be transversely deficient & having recessed orbitals.

You’re not going to fix ever failo. Surgery has its costs and limitations. And besides we aren’t here to become average. Often the best option is to stick a big ass piece of silicon in your face & move on with your life. Other times it pays to have a Mumbai surgeon perform your bimax for $4K usd.

stop coping with fixing failos and start ascended with big ass implants and big ass movements. Halos are just that. They can offset deficiencies in other dimensions.

I have a decent eye area and zygos and non recessed but narrow jaw and small chin. So you are telling me to just ignore my lower third and work on perfecting my eye area and zygos?

 

[ascentium]

I have a decent eye area and zygos and non recessed but narrow jaw and small chin. So you are telling me to just ignore my lower third and work on perfecting my eye area and zygos?

I’m saying get a big ass wrap around. Go big or go home.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I’m saying get a big ass wrap around. Go big or go home.

Wrap around implant results seem to be a hit or a miss.Chin wings are better for bigger movements that im in need of

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

strong argument

needs no argument just look at all the recessed deformed subhumans who go to eppley and get implants lol

 

[ascentium]

Wrap around implant results seem to be a hit or a miss.Chin wings are better for bigger movements that im in need of

get a chinwing then slap a wrap around over it afterwards. Mogger lower third or death.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Jfl chin wings are still mentioned here. Over for this forum.

why?

 

[ascentium]

needs no argument just look at all the recessed deformed subhumans who go to eppley and get implants lol

whay about saiyan ? His skull is recessed but he’s at least chadlite know because he just got midface implants

 

[Jason Voorhees]

get a chinwing then slap a wrap around over it afterwards. Mogger lower third or death.

Just spend 20K+ on surgeries theory

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

whay about saiyan ? His skull is recessed but he’s at least chadlite know because he just got midface implants

pics?

 

[BUY$DRUGS]

cap. If you have a good base and good harmony but a fucked up bite/malocclusion you can increase psl by a whole point just fixing with double jaw surgery

 

[BUY$DRUGS]

another thing is rhino if u have a jew nose instant fix

 

[ascentium]

another thing is rhino if u have a jew nose instant fix

orthognatic correction and rhino.

almost like normies are onto something

 

[BUY$DRUGS]

orthognatic correction and rhino.

almost like normies are onto something

The fuck does this even mean

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Chin wings create an unideal step off on the ramus. A well defined ramus is crucial.

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alternatives?

 

[ascentium]

Chin wings create an unideal step off on the ramus. A well defined ramus is crucial.

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stick a piece of silicon over it theory

 

[ascentium]

Normies go-to surgeries

They one day decide their is something off with their face so they decide to visit a clinic and leave the clinic with a rhinoplasty.

Chad

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Side wing, ramus osteotomy, jaw angle filler, or jaw angle implants.

I am just looking for more jaw width and more square lower third

 

[thecel]

Cope for real incels. Truly deformed incels often have no falio-free features. For them (myself included), creating halos is literally fixing falios.

Creating insane zygos is the same as fixing deficient zygos. Creating a forward maxilla halo is pretty much fixing recession.

See my surgery morph. Each and every halo created is also a falio fixed.

 

[ascentium]

Cope for real incels. Truly deformed incels often have no falio-free features. For them (myself included), creating halos is literally fixing falios.

Creating insane zygos is the same as fixing deficient zygos. Creating a forward maxilla halo is pretty much fixing recession.

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See my surgery morph. Each and every halo created is also a falio fixed.

just get 10 cm of lefort 1 through 3 theory, monobloc, radix implant, cranioplasty mentoplasty, genio.........

 

[ascentium]

Cope for real incels. Truly deformed incels often have no falio-free features. For them (myself included), creating halos is literally fixing falios.

Creating insane zygos is the same as fixing deficient zygos. Creating a forward maxilla halo is pretty much fixing recession.

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See my surgery morph. Each and every halo created is also a falio fixed.

i am honored you noticed me. You’re legendary high IQ.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Chin wings create an unideal step off on the ramus. A well defined ramus is crucial.

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Btw did you measure my go oak angle?

 

[Deleted member 685]

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[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Chin wings create an unideal step off on the ramus. A well defined ramus is crucial.

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chin wing cut is way bigger than i thought

 

[Deleted member 10172]

the only cases I’ve seen a true ascension is when people ignore the high IQ bimaxfirsters & just stick a piece of silicon in their midface or just get a big ass wrap around from Eppley.

Surgery is for fixing falios

 

[randomvanish]

you are right and wrong at the same time. because it depends on the fucking base.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

Spoken like a true high tier normie.

For sub 5 men, surgery is for fixing failios first.

A failio is twice as powerful as a halo. Meaning if you truly fix a failio, it will have twice the impact as creating a halo

If you are already a 6/10 male, sure, create halos

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Spoken like a true high tier normie.

For sub 5 men, surgery is for fixing failios first.

A failio is twice as powerful as a halo. Meaning if you truly fix a failio, it will have twice the impact as creating a halo

If you are already a 6/10 male, sure, create halos

What's the difference between creating halos and fixing failos? If something isn't a halo it's a failo.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

What's the difference between creating halos and fixing failos? If something isn't a halo it's a failo.

Ur stupid

 

[Titbot]

Title

a lot of surgerycels get distracted with hunting down failos to fix under the guise of “muh averages” theory.

strikingly attractive men typically have some cranial facial deformities & are a few s.d. from the mean on a given metric. of course, not to cope, this typically means abnormal amounts of sagittal and transverse growth & a compact coronal dimension, but ante gonial notches, flat OPs & mandibular prognathicism (class III tendency) are typical ‘Chad traits’ yet considered deformities in a clinical context.

projected into the surgeryspace, most often we will see the best ascensions when the cel decides to preserve his deformity but to offset it with a striking halo. For example, saiyan has a transversely deficient maxilla, but in lieu of coping with sarpe, marpe or segmental lefort, he just paid Eppley to give him insane zygos & now he’s at least Chadlite. Furthermore, lordmadness has excessive midface length & suboptimal fwhr; he ascended from bird to htn by pulling his jaws forward with bimax, and now he can get laid, despite be transversely deficient & having recessed orbitals.

You’re not going to fix ever failo. Surgery has its costs and limitations. And besides we aren’t here to become average. Often the best option is to stick a big ass piece of silicon in your face & move on with your life. Other times it pays to have a Mumbai surgeon perform your bimax for $4K usd.

stop coping with fixing failos and start ascended with big ass implants and big ass movements. Halos are just that. They can offset deficiencies in other dimensions.

Shade for not mentioning me

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Ur stupid

Not really. Creating halos == fixing failos.

 

[StrangerDanger]

Not really. Creating halos == fixing failos.

No there is a middleground when the feature isn't striking or subhuman. For instance avg jaw = neither a halo or a failo. a really good one = halo, a recessed one = failo. Some things cant be turned completly

 

[Deleted member 7725]

No there is a middleground when the feature isn't striking or subhuman. For instance avg jaw = neither a halo or a failo. a really good one = halo, a recessed one = failo. Some things cant be turned completly

The only reason you would create halos is if you have no failos. If you have a big subhuman nose or are bald then you should get those fixed before getting fillers/implants.

 

[StrangerDanger]

The only reason you would create halos is if you have no failos. If you have a big subhuman nose or are bald then you should get those fixed before getting fillers/implants.

Yes failos should be taken care of first. But the point was fixing a failo == creating a halo which isn't true. That would be for example achieving a top tier jaw just by fixing a recessed one

 

[Deleted member 4044]

The only reason you would create halos is if you have no failos. If you have a big subhuman nose or are bald then you should get those fixed before getting fillers/implants.

 

[faggotchadlite]

whay about saiyan ? His skull is recessed but he’s at least chadlite know because he just got midface implants

saiyan is recessed???

 

[ascentium]

saiyan is recessed???

pull up his CBCT and it’s obvious he had sagittal & transverse zygomatixomaxillary hypoplasia.

 

[Deleted member 1332]

How do you have 18 straight days on forum and don't realize that plastic surgery almost never looks natural?
It is essentially only for fixing failios. "Creating halos" with plastic surgery is a good recipe for looking like an unnatural clown.

Fixing a failio IS a halo in and of itself because you no longer have that failio.
If it was only about creating halos we could all just slap some light-colored contact lenses in and call it day
Which makes 0 sense, just like the OP. Because good looks is about the absence of bad features, not the presence of unique or rare ones.

 

[ascentium]

How do you have 18 straight days on forum and don't realize that plastic surgery almost never looks natural?
It is essentially only for fixing failios. "Creating halos" with plastic surgery is a good recipe for looking like an unnatural clown.

Fixing a failio IS a halo in and of itself because you no longer have that failio.
If it was only about creating halos we could all just slap some light-colored contact lenses in and call it day
Which makes 0 sense, just like the OP. Because good looks is about the absence of bad features, not the presence of unique or rare ones.

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[Deleted member 1332]

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[one job away]

Title

a lot of surgerycels get distracted with hunting down failos to fix under the guise of “muh averages” theory.

strikingly attractive men typically have some cranial facial deformities & are a few s.d. from the mean on a given metric. of course, not to cope, this typically means abnormal amounts of sagittal and transverse growth & a compact coronal dimension, but ante gonial notches, flat OPs & mandibular prognathicism (class III tendency) are typical ‘Chad traits’ yet considered deformities in a clinical context.

projected into the surgeryspace, most often we will see the best ascensions when the cel decides to preserve his deformity but to offset it with a striking halo. For example, saiyan has a transversely deficient maxilla, but in lieu of coping with sarpe, marpe or segmental lefort, he just paid Eppley to give him insane zygos & now he’s at least Chadlite. Furthermore, lordmadness has excessive midface length & suboptimal fwhr; he ascended from bird to htn by pulling his jaws forward with bimax, and now he can get laid, despite be transversely deficient & having recessed orbitals.

You’re not going to fix ever failo. Surgery has its costs and limitations. And besides we aren’t here to become average. Often the best option is to stick a big ass piece of silicon in your face & move on with your life. Other times it pays to have a Mumbai surgeon perform your bimax for $4K usd.

stop coping with fixing failos and start ascended with big ass implants and big ass movements. Halos are just that. They can offset deficiencies in other dimensions.

what a shit thread. dnrd except title but sure ... fuck bimax when you could have blue eyes am I rite ? blue eyes + major recession is HOT AF

 

[ascentium]

what a shit thread. dnrd except title but sure ... fuck bimax when you could have blue eyes am I rite ? blue eyes + major recession is HOT AF

Bimax is for creating halos. Make sure to get overadvancement & get ramus widening.

 

[APJ]

Counterexample: many many short face syndrome patients. You see people who had ‘everything decent except maxilla height’ and as soon as that was fixed went from below to above average. Also look at the recent Raffaini examples on his site of him dealing with asymmetry, turning creatures from the abyss into legitimately hot women

 

[Deleted member 10172]

see saiyan’s zygo implant. He has a narrow maxilla but he just stuck a piece of silicon in his upper face and slays now. He would have been 80k deep into bimax and osteotomies, and correctional rhino from alar widening but he skipped all that noise by creating zygos halo.

Let me see

 

[Deleted member 10172]

see saiyan’s zygo implant. He has a narrow maxilla but he just stuck a piece of silicon in his upper face and slays now. He would have been 80k deep into bimax and osteotomies, and correctional rhino from alar widening but he skipped all that noise by creating zygos halo.

Can I see the implant before and after? Who did he get it by? What material?