Surgery probably won't ascend anyone

[Deleted member 24789]

Who ascended with surgery here? 3/4 guy at best

what is 20 000 - 4 ? Still 20 000

On the other side leanmax ascended some bros abt 2 psl @ascendedd

Leanmax is law and it's the only thing that can ascend , if u cant ascend a bit with leanmaxxing don't even consider surgery


@SyrianPsycho my bro ascended too with leanmax and skincare and now is famous on tiktok

 

[depressionmaxxing]

cope.

i wont ascend but it’ll do much more than muh creams

 

[Valeqs]

Who ascended with surgery here? 3/4 guy at best

what is 20 000 - 4 ? Still 20 000

On the other side leanmax ascended some bros abt 2 psl @ascendedd

Leanmax is law and it's the only thing that can ascend , if u cant ascend a bit with leanmaxxing don't even consider surgery


@SyrianPsycho my bro ascended to with leanmax and skincare and now is famous on tiktok

i think he got chin implants am i right?

 

[Mr Test]

just do soft- and hardmaxxing theory.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

cope.

i wont ascend but i‘ll do much more than muh creams

Not cope, what will surgery do for you bro, go ahead, explain to me

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Not cope, what will surgery do for you bro, go ahead, explain to me

fix bone structure? Imagine Lefort 3. Rhinoplasty and OBO. Or fillers and fat grafts. Or implants.

you crazy delusional if you think this shit isnt prime looksmaxing and the only thing that does something

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Not cope, what will surgery do for you bro, go ahead, explain to me

it can make deformed subhumans like myself somewhat human (ltn range)

 

[tia0505]

it ascends if you already have a good base

 

[WeiWei]

Depends on your base.

 

[depressionmaxxing]

it can make deformed subhumans like myself somewhat human (ltn range)

you‘re LTN. surgery is for fixing failos, implants might create halos. This is what does the most for people like us.

If you‘re subhuman or normie it will barely help

 

[Deleted member 18879]

you‘re LTN. surgery is for fixing failos, implants might create halos. This is what does the most for people like us.

If you‘re subhuman or normie it will barely help

i have an underbite. thats a huge falio in motion that can be corrected with lf1/bimax

 

[depressionmaxxing]

i have an underbite. thats a huge falio in motion that can be corrected with lf1/bimax

underbites tend to have a bad midface aswell. either Implant or LF2/3

 

[Deleted member 18879]

underbites tend to have a bad midface aswell. either Implant or LF2/3

I would need so much surgery my face would be reduced to nothing but plastic. ggs

 

[Deleted member 18879]

lf2/3 is unrealistic sadly

 

[Deleted member 30323]

LL

 

[depressionmaxxing]

lf2/3 is unrealistic sadly

modified LF1 is still realistic.
Im arguing with my surgeon for LF2/3, if i can get it in austria, where it‘s giga unrealstic - so can you

 

[Deleted member 24789]

fix bone structure? Imagine Lefort 3. Rhinoplasty and OBO. Or fillers and fat grafts. Or implants.

you crazy delusional if you think this shit isnt prime looksmaxing and the only thing that does something

who will make you obo + lefort 3, thats the point, nobody did this

 

[AspieBro]

trimax + implants can ascend many subhumans it’s just that very few people on this forum will actually get to doing it

 

[ascendedd]

Who ascended with surgery here? 3/4 guy at best

what is 20 000 - 4 ? Still 20 000

On the other side leanmax ascended some bros abt 2 psl @ascendedd

Leanmax is law and it's the only thing that can ascend , if u cant ascend a bit with leanmaxxing don't even consider surgery


@SyrianPsycho my bro ascended too with leanmax and skincare and now is famous on tiktok

Surgery is never the answer if u dont even leanmaxx and look at ur bones

 

[reptiles]

Who ascended with surgery here? 3/4 guy at best

what is 20 000 - 4 ? Still 20 000

On the other side leanmax ascended some bros abt 2 psl @ascendedd

Leanmax is law and it's the only thing that can ascend , if u cant ascend a bit with leanmaxxing don't even consider surgery


@SyrianPsycho my bro ascended too with leanmax and skincare and now is famous on tiktok

The cope is unreal you think a lefort 3 where you open up your midface is not gonna ascned you then wtf Is mewing subliminals

 

[Foreverbrad]

It would be interesting to see stats on where most people’s surgery journey ends…

Fantasy?
Morphs?
Consultation?
Getting scan?
Planning?
Actually going through with it?

 

[escortcel]

just give up and take the easy way, bloatmax and escortmax

 

[optimisticzoomer]

OBO will ascend me so hard. I just hope I don't go blind or get botched

 

[optimisticzoomer]

just give up and take the easy way, bloatmax and escortmax

 

[FML0908]

So ? You mean, it just never began for me

 

[Deleted member 21048]

just give up and take the easy way, bloatmax and escortmax

Ppl really spending 100k to go break their orbital bones just to move their eyes by less then a cm just for some fat westernized jewish controlled LTB, this whole life is a meme

 

[FML0908]

Ppl really spending 100k to go break their orbital bones just to move their eyes by less then a cm just for some fat westernized jewish controlled LTB, this whole life is a meme

I swore on god, once i ascend i’m not going for anything under a real stacylite. We got to have standards too.

 

[Deleted member 21048]

I swore on god, once i ascend i’m not going for anything under a real stacylite. We got to have standards too.

Stacylites? I haven't talked to a foid in my life, almost 20 years old, actually over, I'm just saying I'll fix my failos if lucky, surgery isn't even guaranteed but I already fucked by being here

 

[FML0908]

Stacylites? I haven't talked to a foid in my life, almost 20 years old, actually over, I'm just saying I'll fix my failos if lucky, surgery isn't even guaranteed but I already fucked by being here

Stfu nigga, i’m sure you have it way better than me and you just lack ntness. You’re probably a mtn with a potential.

 

[Deleted member 21048]

Stfu nigga, i’m sure you have it way better than me and you just lack ntness. You’re probably a mtn with a potential.

Ig, update me when u ascend tho with a harem of Stacies

 

[Pakicel]

The cope is unreal you think a lefort 3 where you open up your midface is not gonna ascned you then wtf Is mewing subliminals

Your rite tbqh throm cruise ascendded with surgery it can alsom turn a curry into an iranan

 

[Alexanderr]

People have different defintions when it comes to ''ascend''. Will surgery turn most from a 5PSL to 7PSL? No. Could it reduce the flaws on their face, and turn them from 5 PSL to (nearly) 6 PSL? Maybe. Might seem like a small amount but a 1 PSL increase is gigantic.

 

[reptiles]

Your rite tbqh throm cruise ascendded with surgery it can alsom turn a curry into an iranan

Oh this troll I forgot you existed tbqh I'll ask this question again what is it a face that a chad has surgically you can't replicate if you stack several surgeries it may be unrealistic but to say this is impossible is insane

 

[Pakicel]

Oh this troll I forgot you existed tbqh I'll ask this question again what is it a face that a chad has surgically you can't replicate if you stack several surgeries it may be unrealistic but to say this is impossible is insane

not trolling I am say you are rite lefort 3 and implants can ascend anyone to low tier male model tbqh if they are at least 5 7 OP doesnt realize mos t surgeons dnt share their best results

 

[reptiles]

People have different defintions when it comes to ''ascend''. Will surgery turn most from a 5PSL to 7PSL? No. Could it reduce the flaws on their face, and turn them from 5 PSL to (nearly) 6 PSL? Maybe. Might seem like a small amount but a 1 PSL increase is gigantic.

Why not why couldn't you take a 5 psl to a 7 psl with like 9 to 10 surgeries what actual anatomical can you not change to make your skull like a chad genuine question.

Chads most common traits a tall angular ramus jaw implants plus fillers would get you that then you have the issue of your mandible body and chin genioplasty combined with a bsso would fix that in terms of orbits supra orbital rim implants will create a more hunter eye look a rhinoplasty to make your radix meet In tandem with your nasion will create a more masculine nasal ridge infra orbital implants will reduce under eye hallowness.

What else do we have the midfacial height ? You can't fix that but you can bring that forward with a lefort you can get fillers for the cheek plus custom implants.

Like pls genuinely tell me what traits does a chad have that is impossible to replicate if you have the funds

 

[VenatorLuparius]

I beg to differ, mon cher ami.

Can't wait to try out my new face on OLD after the swelling has subsided.

I literally have a new face : brad pitt jaw, hunter eyes, highset and big cheekbones. Just 6 months ago I was a chincel fatcel with bug eyes.

I'm not saying I ascended like Amnesia or Salludon but I mog my former by at least 1 to 1.5 PSL points from leanmaxxing and surgeries combined.

Frenetic gymmaxxing should bring me to HTN.

 

[Pakicel]

People have different defintions when it comes to ''ascend''. Will surgery turn most from a 5PSL to 7PSL? No. Could it reduce the flaws on their face, and turn them from 5 PSL to (nearly) 6 PSL? Maybe. Might seem like a small amount but a 1 PSL increase is gigantic.

It makes zero sense to get surgeries for someone who is 5 PSL because an uncanny result can obliterate their SMV. Imo, only 2-3 PSL dudes with noticeable recession or failos like balding or huge nose should get surgeries. For 4 PSL and above, it is not worth it.

 

[Pakicel]

I beg to differ, mon cher ami.

Can't wait to try out my new face on OLD after the swelling has subsided.

I literally have a new face : brad pitt jaw, hunter eyes, highset and big cheekbones. Just 6 months ago I was a chincel fatcel with bug eyes.

I'm not saying I ascended like Amnesia or Salludon but I mog my former by at least 1 to 1.5 PSL points from leanmaxxing and surgeries combined.

Frenetic gymmaxxing should bring me to HTN.

How did you fund all these surgeries?

 

[malicieusss]

I beg to differ, mon cher ami.

Can't wait to try out my new face on OLD after the swelling has subsided.

I literally have a new face : brad pitt jaw, hunter eyes, highset and big cheekbones. Just 6 months ago I was a chincel fatcel with bug eyes.

I'm not saying I ascended like Amnesia or Salludon but I mog my former by at least 1 to 1.5 PSL points from leanmaxxing and surgeries combined.

Frenetic gymmaxxing should bring me to HTN.

I mog my former self a lot too lmao

 

[VenatorLuparius]

How did you fund all these surgeries?

Wageslaving but I earn good money. Only advantage I got from being a urkelcel in my teenage years rather than a thug.

 

[malicieusss]

How did you fund all these surgeries?

For me it was / is crypto (next surgery september)

 

[Pakicel]

Wageslaving but I earn good money. Only advantage I got from being a urkelcel in my teenage years rather than a thug.

What field? Finance?

 

[Alexanderr]

Why not why couldn't you take a 5 psl to a 7 psl with like 9 to 10 surgeries what actual anatomical can you not change to make your skull like a chad genuine question.

Because there's certain features surgery cannot change or only partially. Even then, there's always the off chance of complications and the surgery ending up botched.

You can't signficantly alter the underlying bone structure so the amount of change (safely) possible is limited.

Chads most common traits a tall angular ramus jaw implants plus fillers would get you that then you have the issue of your mandible body and chin genioplasty combined with a bsso would fix that in terms of orbits supra orbital rim implants will create a more hunter eye look a rhinoplasty to make your radix meet In tandem with your nasion will create a more masculine nasal ridge infra orbital implants will reduce under eye hallowness.

You can do all of those and still not look anywhere near 7 PSL. To achieve 7 PSL, you'd need to have a very good looking base to begin with. Browridge implants don't properly mimic what a natural prominent browridge even looks like. Results from numerous surgeries often result in a less natural look due to differences in how artificial components interact with soft tissues and heal over time. Hence, it's unlikely to achieve an organic "Chad" aesthetic lest you were close to begin with.

 

[VenatorLuparius]

What field? Finance?

No worse, Consulting aka the worst aging-pill of them all : 60 hours/week or more in difficult projects, travelling weeks in weeks out, stressful work environment, crab in bucket mentality. I know where I got my receding temples from JFL.

 

[reptiles]

Because there's certain features surgery cannot change or only partially. Even then, there's always the off chance of complications and the surgery ending up botched.

You can't signficantly alter the underlying bone structure so the amount of change (safely) possible is limited.

You can do all of those and still not look anywhere near 7 PSL. To achieve 7 PSL, you'd need to have a very good looking base to begin with. Browridge implants don't properly mimic what a natural prominent browridge even looks like. Results from numerous surgeries often result in a less natural look due to differences in how artificial components interact with soft tissues and heal over time. Hence, it's unlikely to achieve an organic "Chad" aesthetic lest you were close to begin with.

Which feautres can surgery not change I'm gonna need names tbqh if your talking about the medial canthus I saw a few studies I don't have it on hand that showed them down turning the medial canthus.

As for implants looking un natural due to how yhe components interact with the soft tissue that could be some what accurate on the internals of your. Body but not the skin itself.

I've very rearly seen bad results when a jaw implant is done right.

@RealSurgerymax kinda showed what's possible with implants what's worrying is most jaw surgeons are deathly blue pilled on implant designs notice how most implants look un naturally round and not tapered around the edges I don't buy into the idea a millionaire cannot get to a chad level with a top class surgeon

 

[Pakicel]

Which feautres can surgery not change I'm gonna need names tbqh if your talking about the medial canthus I saw a few studies I don't have it on hand that showed them down turning the medial canthus.

As for implants looking un natural due to how yhe components interact with the soft tissue that could be some what accurate on the internals of your. Body but not the skin itself.

I've very rearly seen bad results when a jaw implant is done right.

@RealSurgerymax kinda showed what's possible with implants what's worrying is most jaw surgeons are deathly blue pilled on implant designs notice how most implants look un naturally round and not tapered around the edges I don't buy into the idea a millionaire cannot get to a chad level with a top class surgeon

Seriously though, what are you expecting from surgeries? You are not going to look that much better after bimax+implants. Surgeons can't do miracles. You probably won't get good bones because it looks like if you have thick skin and lots of soft tissue like Gaia.

 

[Pakicel]

No worse, Consulting aka the worst aging-pill of them all : 60 hours/week or more in difficult projects, travelling weeks in weeks out, stressful work environment, crab in bucket mentality. I know where I got my receding temples from JFL.

How did you get time off to recover from surgeries then? Aren't you expected to meet with lots of clients so if you look weird/swollen, won't your boss complain?

 

[Alexanderr]

Which feautres can surgery not change I'm gonna need names tbqh if your talking about the medial canthus I saw a few studies I don't have it on hand that showed them down turning the medial canthus.

1. Cranial Bone Structure
2. Orbital Rim Position
3. Oppicital bone
4. Neurocranial Height
5. Low set -> High set cheekbones

These are just a few.

There's a reason there's quite literally no example of an average Joe becoming comparable to Tyson Ballou.

 

[Pakicel]

1. Cranial Bone Structure
2. Orbital Rim Position
3. Oppicital bone
4. Neurocranial Height
5. Low set -> High set cheekbones

These are just a few.

There's a reason there's quite literally no example of an average Joe becoming comparable to Tyson Ballou.

and 6. Overall Pheno/Harmony. Arguably the most important.

 

[Maalik]

Surgery works when performed by a skilled surgeon. Look at this before/after pic, surgery done by Gunson.

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