Surgical or baseline improvement recommendations

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I despise my facial structure and am looking for improvements by any means necessary.

I’m currently just under 18, 194cm, and roughly 205 pounds with a decent physique (I’d estimate high teens bf%)

My issue comes not with my body (though obviously seeking to improve) but the aberration attached above the neck.

I can tolerate my face only when my jaw is slightly tensed and my lips are sealed with my teeth at maximum separation, essentially as far as they can go without my mouth opening (it makes my lips fuller, stretches skin, and elongates my face which I think is desperately needed).

I’m willing to do anything for improvement in this regard. I have approx. 20k saved for surgery but want to ensure I get many more opinions. Preferably from those more experienced on what a face is in need of, I just want to know the optimal course of action for making myself more appealing to the eye.

Attached below are 2 sets of back camera pictures, one with jaw entirely relaxed, teeth sealed, the next set with my teeth ajar and jaw slightly tensed, the posture I normally assume in daily life so as not to scare children.

Feel free to flame me, I know I’m subhuman, but I’m just desperate to be better, I don’t want to live like this with all I have being an above average intelligence quotient.

And so any and all advice appreciated, and much needed. Please respond or PM me. Thanks all.

(Things I’m currently doing, basically just lifting and accutane).
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Also. obviously the fuckass lines over my eyes do nothing, jus wanted to keep eye area visible.
 
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"high teens bodyfat"
You do realize unless you have some really fixible obvious failo that becoming 10%bf would probably be around the same ROI for you as 20 grand of surgery

Your iq is likely not high

And your current smv irl rn at 6'4 is likely average overall

You don't have giant failos you're just boneless, unappealing and lack harmony, genuinely just starve and grow your hair out(hides alot of bonelessness) and you can likely be top20-30% in looks irl overall
Height will carry you
 
"high teens bodyfat"
You do realize unless you have some really fixible obvious failo that becoming 10%bf would probably be around the same ROI for you as 20 grand of surgery

Your iq is likely not high
Ty for advice wonkychin186. Currently trying to enhance base of musculature prior to cutting so I don’t look like an elongated twig.

Just feels as though with my current transcendent foundation of boneless, 0 appeal, 0 harmony that even 10% bf isn’t doing much to save me.

That’s why I’m looking into surgical procedures so at least one of those points of contention can be somewhat resolved.

And makes total sense not believing the high IQ based on quality of Chud ass post. Shockingly enough though I am fine in this regard and just haven’t put extensive effort into researching facial aesthetics, hence me seeking advice from people more suited such as yourself.

Thanks again.
 
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Ty for advice wonkychin186. Currently trying to enhance base of musculature prior to cutting so I don’t look like an elongated twig.

Just feels as though with my current transcendent foundation of boneless, 0 appeal, 0 harmony that even 10% bf isn’t doing much to save me.

That’s why I’m looking into surgical procedures so at least one of those points of contention can be somewhat resolved.

And makes total sense not believing the high IQ based on quality of Chud ass post. Shockingly enough though I am fine in this regard and just haven’t put extensive effort into researching facial aesthetics, hence me seeking advice from people more suited such as yourself.

Thanks again.
You seem average iq and aspie

You aren't completely boneless your harmony isn't terrible and your face isn't super unappealing

You're just an average guy who happened to trade some face for height
 
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You're just an average guy who happened to trade some face for height
Condemnation to mediocrity is just so fucking brutal . So may as well embrace some mental oddities of the character if it means I can commit myself to being better.

Seriously thanks again tho
 
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