Taking roids for facial growth post 18, is it really worth it? (with sources)

[EGGY 1671u32g]

So most forum members say post age 18 theres no reason to roid if your trying to grow your facial bones. I look at two different studies to see how true this is and when is the latest you should roid specifically for facial bone growth

Study 1:

Here are the ages ranges, we will only be looking at 5, 6 and 7

From 5 to 6 we see a 10mm jump in ramus height. But essentially no change from 6 to 7. Ropefuel for everyone here over 19/20

The mandibular height in this study also proved similar, a significant change from 5 to 6 but basically nothing from 6 to 7.

This study shows bone growth post about 19/20 really isnt likely

link: https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jhtb/31/1/31_9/_pdf

Study 2:

This diagram is just to let you interpret the stuff bellow Co-Gn is basically just the total mandible length, Co-A is just the maxilla length

Life fuel for old bro, the changes in the mandible length from 18-20 admittedly where about 1/2 of 16-18 but still significant.

link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889540605800526


Conclusion

Roids may still be able to give you some good jaw growth even post 18. My theory is up to about age 21 you may notice some growth from taking roids in your mandible at least. But younger is always better. If your 16 this is the time where ur jaw is growing the most, seize the moment and hop on cycle, dont let the soyfags fear monger you.

I genuinely think a 300mg test permacycle for the rest of puberty could be a good idea for any 15, 16 or 17 year olds on this forum

 

[_MVP_]

this will close their growth plates, eggy

 

[Spookybah]

Good post

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

this will close their growth plates, eggy

just take ai

 

[Pashanim]

can you even recover your natural testosterone production after years of permablasting, or do you have to stay on TRT for life?

 

[penaldinho]

No tbh never seen a good steroid face transformation

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

No tbh never seen a good steroid face transformation

sikk

 

[ynns]

sikk

alr had that face

 

[ynns]

alr had that face

just got older

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

just got older

i speak to him fairly often, he said he noticed changes in his face from roids

 

[ynns]

i speak to him fairly often, he said he noticed changes in his face from roids

yes ofcourse roids will give chances but his face is largely due to him being older. he always had to ogrish face.

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

yes ofcourse roids will give chances but his face is largely due to him being older. he always had to ogrish face.

his face has changed in the last 7 months significantly

 

[Whirr22222]

sikk

He has acromegaly...

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

He has acromegaly...

yes i know but acromegaly doesnt discount he fact he said himself his wrists grew in the first 3 months he was on roids more than before and he grew 2 inches since he started them like 9 months ago

 

[Fillowskyy]

Alr bro, you convinced me. Gotta moneymax and then hop on test.

 

[ReporterIntelligent]

damnn, Im 19 but boneless think I should hop on pure DHT for bones? Apparently test wont really get me any facial gains

 

[menacemike]

damnn, Im 19 but boneless think I should hop on pure DHT for bones? Apparently test wont really get me any facial gains

Yes, I’m 22 and have seen massive facial bone changes from injectable DHT enanthate. It will definitely work at your age. Make sure you are eating lots of meat, eggs, milk, and honey to give the nutrients you need for bone growth and changes will occur

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

w

Yes, I’m 22 and have seen massive facial bone changes from injectable DHT enanthate. It will definitely work at your age. Make sure you are eating lots of meat, eggs, milk, and honey to give the nutrients you need for bone growth and changes will occur

what did you inject?

 

[menacemike]

w

what did you inject?

DHT enanthate

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

DHT enanthate

any sides? Also what kinda facial changes did you observe

 

[menacemike]

any sides? Also what kinda facial changes did you observe

no sides. More pronounced brow ridge, hunter eyes, denser eyebrows, bigger chin, wider and more pronounced cheekbones, wider jaw.

 

[menacemike]

any sides? Also what kinda facial changes did you observe

Also DHT is a mineralcorticoid antagonist so it will flush water out your face and debloat you. Jawline will instantly look more pronounced. It also lowers cortisol which helps sharpen features

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

no sides. More pronounced brow ridge, hunter eyes, denser eyebrows, bigger chin, wider and more pronounced cheekbones, wider jaw.

damn you got the whole package. I just thought DHT would give you acne and make you bald jfl

 

[menacemike]

damn you got the whole package. I just thought DHT would give you acne and make you bald jfl

Nah acne is caused by hormonal imbalance and high estrogen. And DHT hair loss is a myth. Hair loss occurs from inflammation, stress, nutrient deficiency, high prolactin. That’s why people lose hair on tren, very inflammatory and raises prolactin which is the perfect recipe for hair loss.

Also pure DHT acts way differently than derivatives like Masteron and primo. Side effects from those can’t be applied to pure bioidentical dht.

 

[ReporterIntelligent]

Yes, I’m 22 and have seen massive facial bone changes from injectable DHT enanthate. It will definitely work at your age. Make sure you are eating lots of meat, eggs, milk, and honey to give the nutrients you need for bone growth and changes will occur

Oh wow, how many MG per week/day did you take? You injected it right?

 

[menacemike]

Oh wow, how many MG per week/day did you take? You injected it right?

Currently on 400mg per week. Yes injectable

 

[ReporterIntelligent]

Currently on 400mg per week. Yes injectable

400 MG? And no sides? Where do you even get this stuff from?

 

[menacemike]

400 MG? And no sides? Where do you even get this stuff from?

Estered dht is probably the hardest compound to find. There are currently no commercial producers of DHT E and any website that claims to have it is a scam. Your best bet is to research reputable accounts posting about it on X/twitter and try to make connections with those big accounts who have access to it. It’s pretty gatekept but if you try hard to find it you’ll get access to it.

Im only running 400mg for 2 months to upregulate my androgen receptors. Long term it’s not good as it will crash cortisol and will also cause significant mineral/fluid excretion. I’m gonna jump down to 50-100mg which is more than plenty for the benefits.

 

[menacemike]

400 MG? And no sides? Where do you even get this stuff from?

The Hormone of Chads - [ULTIMATE Guide to DHT Optimization]

What if everything you thought you knew about male hormones was a lie?

bowtiedbiohacker.com

Here’s a post that goes over the benefits of pure DHT

 

[sluttysuzy420]

Also DHT is a mineralcorticoid antagonist so it will flush water out your face and debloat you. Jawline will instantly look more pronounced. It also lowers cortisol which helps sharpen features

DHT does not lower cortisol independently. rather test competes w cortisol for production. Also, Cortisol has little effect on facial features ur right bat the other stuff.

 

[BigNihPlugxX]

not with an AI it wont

this will close their growth plates, eggy

 

[menacemike]

DHT does not lower cortisol independently. rather test competes w cortisol for production.

Dihydrotestosterone differentially modulates the cortisol response of the hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis in male and female rhesus macaques, and restores circadian secretion of cortisol in females

Here we used a within-subject design to evaluate hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal (HPA) activity following replacement of low and high physiological lev…

www.sciencedirect.com

“We found that the high physiological dose of DHT alone reduced basal cortisol in male as well as female monkeys irrespective of social status.”
“Results show that DHT constrains the release of cortisol under basal conditions in both male and female rhesus monkeys, and reduces CRF-stimulated cortisol in male alone.
The high physiological dose of DHT significantly reduced basal cortisol as well as the cortisol response following CRF”

I’ve seen people who run high doses of DHT solo completely crash their cortisol. It’s a pretty well known side effect of it.

Also, Cortisol has little effect on facial features ur right bat the other stuff.

Yea lowering cortisol wont change actual bones but cortisol holds water especially in the face so lowering it will help with bloating and sharpen features

 

[sluttysuzy420]

Dihydrotestosterone differentially modulates the cortisol response of the hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis in male and female rhesus macaques, and restores circadian secretion of cortisol in females

Here we used a within-subject design to evaluate hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal (HPA) activity following replacement of low and high physiological lev…

www.sciencedirect.com

“We found that the high physiological dose of DHT alone reduced basal cortisol in male as well as female monkeys irrespective of social status.”
“Results show that DHT constrains the release of cortisol under basal conditions in both male and female rhesus monkeys, and reduces CRF-stimulated cortisol in male alone.
The high physiological dose of DHT significantly reduced basal cortisol as well as the cortisol response following CRF”

I’ve seen people who run high doses of DHT solo completely crash their cortisol. It’s a pretty well known side effect of it.


Yea lowering cortisol wont change actual bones but cortisol holds water especially in the face so lowering it will help with bloating and sharpen features

thx for posting study. Maybe there is some merit in what u say, but likely not the case in humans.

 

[14yearoldlooksmaxxe]

So most forum members say post age 18 theres no reason to roid if your trying to grow your facial bones. I look at two different studies to see how true this is and when is the latest you should roid specifically for facial bone growth

Study 1:


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Here are the ages ranges, we will only be looking at 5, 6 and 7

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From 5 to 6 we see a 10mm jump in ramus height. But essentially no change from 6 to 7. Ropefuel for everyone here over 19/20

View attachment 3403679
The mandibular height in this study also proved similar, a significant change from 5 to 6 but basically nothing from 6 to 7.

This study shows bone growth post about 19/20 really isnt likely

link: https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jhtb/31/1/31_9/_pdf

Study 2:


View attachment 3403722
This diagram is just to let you interpret the stuff bellow Co-Gn is basically just the total mandible length, Co-A is just the maxilla length

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Life fuel for old bro, the changes in the mandible length from 18-20 admittedly where about 1/2 of 16-18 but still significant.

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link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889540605800526


Conclusion

Roids may still be able to give you some good jaw growth even post 18. My theory is up to about age 21 you may notice some growth from taking roids in your mandible at least. But younger is always better. If your 16 this is the time where ur jaw is growing the most, seize the moment and hop on cycle, dont let the soyfags fear monger you.

I genuinely think a 300mg test permacycle for the rest of puberty could be a good idea for any 15, 16 or 17 year olds on this forum

ill say in 20 30 years youll defo need a heart transplant