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Because they oppress foids

Mohammed was extremely based, into jbs and Said He was shown hell and majority of ppl in hell were women xdd
 
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Hello,

I invite you to Islam. Ask me any questions if you want, I have made threads on Islamic fiqh you can check them out.

Ty,
-JEE
 
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They are both more in hell and paradise its because they belive more women exist btw thats false
 
They are both more in hell and paradise its because they belive more women exist btw thats false
That’s a myth. Modern preachers say that in order to gain the sympathy of feminist western people, there is no proof that says that they are also the majority in paradise, it’s simply a modern theory / philosophy that’s behind spread
 
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That’s a myth. Modern preachers say that in order to gain the sympathy of feminist western people, there is no proof that says that they are also the majority in paradise, it’s simply a modern theory / philosophy that’s behind spread
Modern preacers dont car3 about femnism
 
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Hello,

I invite you to Islam. Ask me any questions if you want, I have made threads on Islamic fiqh you can check them out.

Ty,
-JEE
Mogs my SecularIslamist background.
 
Because they oppress foids

Mohammed was extremely based, into jbs and Said He was shown hell and majority of ppl in hell were women xdd
Muhammad was a full blown pedo not just into JBs
 
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Hello,

This person is a deviant.

If you look at many imams of the past you find they viewed women as a commodity.

Proof:
Ibn Hibban: A friend is not like a woman who you can easily get rid of.
Al Ghazali: Marriage is like slavery (Ihya uloom ad deen)

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Muhammad was a full blown pedo not just into JBs
Hello,

Pedophilia is allowed in Islam. Pedophilia as in having sex with pre-pubescent children. Please see my post titled "Islamic proof of child marriage" or smthin, it goes into detail into how child marriage is halal. I also, at one point mentioned having sex with pre-pubsecents.

-JEE
 
Tjey arent commonity but they arent treated equal
Hello,

Women are not treated equal to men. They are below men both in terms of value and in fiqh.

-JEE
 
Secularism is kufr. Anyone that upholds secularism is a kafir unless he was ignorant or mentally incapacitated.
I agree. But the only Islamic political body I see as having legitimacy is a caliphate. Even though I have no idea what that would look like in a modern world JFL.

Many Islamists from all persuasions from al-Banna, Qutb, Mawdudi, Gannouchi, Erbaken are confused on this point. Some of them are more 'western' influenced more than they realize and cope by saying 'sharia'.
 
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Because they oppress foids

Mohammed was extremely based, into jbs and Said He was shown hell and majority of ppl in hell were women xdd
Hamza is a based Muslim too
 
In the past I hated islam but I’ve taken a soft spot to it and been thinking of converting to it, but I think I’ll stick to Christianity
 
I agree. But the only Islamic political body I see as having legitimacy is a caliphate. Even though I have no idea what that would look like in a modern world JFL.

Many Islamists from all persuasions from al-Banna, Qutb, Mawdudi, Gannouchi, Erbaken are confused on this point. Some of them are more 'western' influenced more than they realize and cope by saying 'sharia'.
The monarchy is also valid and legitimate and there can only be 1 caliphate at one point.
 
The monarchy is also valid and legitimate and there can only be 1 caliphate at one point.
I don't see monarchy as recommended but it was the default outside of the Rashidun caliphate - which even according to prophecy was supposed to last approximately 30 days. Every other caliphate/sultanate was monarchical in nature.

Aside from that in classical sources Islamic political theory tended had loose foundations as the caliphate had already existed. There were at times different caliphates claiming Islamic supremacy like Abbasid and Cordoba caliphate. But I agree there should be one.

I really think every 'Muslim' country today whether Afghanistan, Algeria or Indonesia are fucked. Stuck between imitating the west and modernising Islamic institutions without ending up cucking them.
 
I don't see monarchy as recommended but it was the default outside of the Rashidun caliphate - which even according to prophecy was supposed to last approximately 30 days. Every other caliphate/sultanate was monarchical in nature.

Aside from that in classical sources Islamic political theory tended had loose foundations as the caliphate had already existed. There were at times different caliphates claiming Islamic supremacy like Abbasid and Cordoba caliphate. But I agree there should be one.

I really think every 'Muslim' country today whether Afghanistan, Algeria or Indonesia are fucked. Stuck between imitating the west and modernising Islamic institutions without ending up cucking them.
I think it's mainly because people think Islamic Shariah will start some kind of utopia in their country when that is not the case. There will be slow growth because many forms of market tools are not available due to the nature of their contracts. I don't know much about this topic as I haven't consulted my teacher on this matter too in depth but I do know some things that he judged like interest, riba, fiat, crypto, etc... I might make a future post on this matter but I fear the same thing as my teacher when it comes to this.

Anyways, out of those countries, only Afghanistan seems to be doing the right thing but they want to join the UN committee and joining it makes the ruler a kafir because of what he agrees to as part of joining it and so the land becomes dar al harb/kufr.
 
Hello,

Pedophilia is allowed in Islam. Pedophilia as in having sex with pre-pubescent children. Please see my post titled "Islamic proof of child marriage" or smthin, it goes into detail into how child marriage is halal. I also, at one point mentioned having sex with pre-pubsecents.

-JEE
Child marriage is also allowed in other religions but they usually wait until puberty at least.
 
I think it's mainly because people think Islamic Shariah will start some kind of utopia in their country when that is not the case. There will be slow growth because many forms of market tools are not available due to the nature of their contracts. I don't know much about this topic as I haven't consulted my teacher on this matter too in depth but I do know some things that he judged like interest, riba, fiat, crypto, etc... I might make a future post on this matter but I fear the same thing as my teacher when it comes to this.
Who is this 'teacher'? Your local JFL - just consult him issues on everyday life lmao.

This is a 100+ year conversation (possibly centuries longer actually), that have been going on in academic circles. No one has been able to reconcile Islam and modernity (which is primarily a western-led enterprise).

I don't think it will be resolved any time soon. So I am nostalgiamaxxxing with history as things seemed better those days.

Anyways, out of those countries, only Afghanistan seems to be doing the right thing but they want to join the UN committee and joining it makes the ruler a kafir because of what he agrees to as part of joining it and so the land becomes dar al harb/kufr.
I wouldn't make takfir on any Muslim rule. But Taliban are reactionary, have their thinking rooted in deobandism which promotes blind imitation. This is a south Asian movement that has heavy presence in Afghanistan/Pakistan so idc tbh.

Even bin Laden was offended by them but had no alternative other than to pledge allegiance to Mullah Omar otherwise he would get nerfed.
 
Child marriage is also allowed in other religions but they usually wait until puberty at least.
Jews don't but Christians do, apparently.

Jews have for the most part changed their religion due to believing the Rabbis can change the religion. Of course, this is bogus and only shows how destroyed the Jewish faith is.

Christians, I don't know too much about, admittedly.
 
Jews don't but Christians do, apparently.

Jews have for the most part changed their religion due to believing the Rabbis can change the religion. Of course, this is bogus and only shows how destroyed the Jewish faith is.

Christians, I don't know too much about, admittedly.
Christians have to wait until puberty

I thought Jews were the same. Where did you get the idea Jews can practice pedophilia?
 
Who is this 'teacher'? Your local JFL - just consult him issues on everyday life lmao.

This is a 100+ year conversation (possibly centuries longer actually), that have been going on in academic circles. No one has been able to reconcile Islam and modernity (which is primarily a western-led enterprise).

I don't think it will be resolved any time soon. So I am nostalgiamaxxxing with history as things seemed better those days.


I wouldn't make takfir on any Muslim rule. But Taliban are reactionary, have their thinking rooted in deobandism which promotes blind imitation. This is a south Asian movement that has heavy presence in Afghanistan/Pakistan so idc tbh.

Even bin Laden was offended by them but had no alternative other than to pledge allegiance to Mullah Omar otherwise he would get nerfed.

My teacher is Abu Kitten Al Meowy. I have mentioned his channel and twitter in various posts of mine.



If you don't make takfir on them then you'd be upon kufr aswell provided you know the rulers were also upon kufr. For example, if a ruler started implementing his own laws like banning slavery,child marriage etc... this is kufr and I will takfir him for this and if someone else were to know that this is kufr but still not takfir the ruler then he himself is also a kafir.

Blind following (Taqlid) is not wrong. This is good and a majority of the scholars agree that it is okay for a layman to do this of a madhab (One of 4: Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali, or Shafii). I won't go too indepth into deobandism and other sects.

BL was kinda dumb, he knew warfare and was good at it (see war with commies) but the problem starts when his group starts doing wrongful takfir and he starts killing women and children (see 9/11). Did the TB do the right thing by guarding him? I assert my 5th amendment right to free speech.
 
Christians have to wait until puberty

I thought Jews were the same. Where did you get the idea Jews can practice pedophilia?
Marriage is done at any age and consummated at puberty yes.

The Talmud allows for it.
 
My teacher is Abu Kitten Al Meowy. I have mentioned his channel and twitter in various posts of mine.



If you don't make takfir on them then you'd be upon kufr aswell provided you know the rulers were also upon kufr. For example, if a ruler started implementing his own laws like banning slavery,child marriage etc... this is kufr and I will takfir him for this and if someone else were to know that this is kufr but still not takfir the ruler then he himself is also a kafir.
Yeah this is a takfiri mentality and has more in common with the khairijee than Islam. The same mentality which even accused the prophet of not abiding by the laws of God. Are you salafi?

Laws are subject to the shariah and there has always been disagreement and such disagreements are rahma according to sahih hadiths not points to make takfir - again something the khairijites did.
Blind following (Taqlid) is not wrong. This is good and a majority of the scholars agree that it is okay for a layman to do this of a madhab (One of 4: Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali, or Shafii). I won't go too indepth into deobandism and other sects.
Nobody is mujtahid mutlaq outside the four imams of those schools. But there NEEDS to be a modern ijtihad movement which is against the secular progressives as well as the backward salafi movement.
BL was kinda dumb, he knew warfare and was good at it (see war with commies) but the problem starts when his group starts doing wrongful takfir and he starts killing women and children (see 9/11). Did the TB do the right thing by guarding him? I assert my 5th amendment right to free speech.
'wrongful takfir' and you just made takfir yourself based on rulers not implementing the 'right' thing lmao. He ALSO takfired rulers btw and not people en masse. We shouldnt judge political rulers by the same standard that we demand from scholars.

Idc if taliban guarded him, but certainly he was a liability for them. They could've probably avoided an invasion if they just handed him over. They never supported his activities and didn't see eye to eye with his more international goals.
 
Yeah this is a takfiri mentality and has more in common with the khairijee than Islam. The same mentality which even accused the prophet of not abiding by the laws of God. Are you salafi?
I am Ashari so no. Also, this is commonplace in the 4 madhabs from what I know.
The same mentality which even accused the prophet of not abiding by the laws of God.
The Prophets are free from their accusations as they cannot sin.
Nobody is mujtahid mutlaq outside the four imams of those schools. But there NEEDS to be a modern ijtihad movement which is against the secular progressives as well as the backward salafi movement.
Salafis thrive partially because of the sunnis gatekeeping knowledge. I've met sufis on a discord server (razaviyah) who literally were not willing to give pdfs to good books all because we weren't studying under a teacher.

Also, what needs to be known is largely known. We have come to a consensus on various matters by a lot of imams over a long period of time. Our understanding of the religion is very high by Allah's grace.
He ALSO takfired rulers btw and not people en masse
His group killed and takfired Asharis/Maturidis from what I know.
They could've probably avoided an invasion if they just handed him over.
You cannot send your Muslim brother to be killed or mistreated by the kuffar in hopes of avoiding an invasion. Allah is the one that gives and takes.
 
I am Ashari so no. Also, this is commonplace in the 4 madhabs from what I know.

The Prophets are free from their accusations as they cannot sin.
I was talking about an instance when someone approached the prophet and accused him of not following through on his principles - can't remember the story I think it's in ibn Ishaq
Salafis thrive partially because of the sunnis gatekeeping knowledge. I've met sufis on a discord server (razaviyah) who literally were not willing to give pdfs to good books all because we weren't studying under a teacher.
I'm not against all Salafis some of them are decent and very knowledgeable. It's a broad spectrum the first ever salafis like Mohammed Abdul and Jamal al-Afghani were very cucked but they did try to revive the Muslim world.
Also, what needs to be known is largely known. We have come to a consensus on various matters by a lot of imams over a long period of time. Our understanding of the religion is very high by Allah's grace.
There are always differences in fiqh and always will be. You mentioned slavery - you know that's been abolished via ijma.

The shariah is flexible on a lot of social practices. The Quran itself didn't outlaw alcohol immediately but in stages the same wisdom wasn't applied when Americans tried to ban alcohol in the 20s JFL.

His group killed and takfired Asharis/Maturidis from what I know.
You cannot send your Muslim brother to be killed or mistreated by the kuffar in hopes of avoiding an invasion. Allah is the one that gives and takes.
Bin Laden was living amongst Maturidi Hanfis. Also this is nice romantic thinking but practice and overall good (maslaha) takes precedence. Funilly enough many salafis are proponents of istihsan in areas of shariah

Bin Laden killed people and caused bloodshed throughout Muslim world. He was a tool of Americans and gave them so much propaganda and reasons to invade.
 
There are always differences in fiqh and always will be. You mentioned slavery - you know that's been abolished via ijma.
This is not true. At all. Ijmaa says the opposite.

The shariah is flexible on a lot of social practices. The Quran itself didn't outlaw alcohol immediately but in stages the same wisdom wasn't applied when Americans tried to ban alcohol in the 20s JFL.
Yes but that was only for the time being, now we ban it straight up and without any care about doing it in stages. If the ruler says Alcohol is allowed (Which means halal) then he is a kafir.
Bin Laden was living amongst Maturidi Hanfis. Also this is nice romantic thinking but practice and overall good (maslaha) takes precedence. Funilly enough many salafis are proponents of istihsan in areas of shariah
Maslahah does not mean you can send your Muslim brother out to die in the hands of the kuffar. The life of a Muslim is greater than the life of a kafir. https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3047

BL was a Salafi, he'd takfir those maturidis like any other salafi for being a Jahmi.
Bin Laden killed people and caused bloodshed throughout Muslim world. He was a tool of Americans and gave them so much propaganda and reasons to invade.
I wouldn't say this is true. If he was a tool then America really bet its money on the wrong horse. We do not care if he is or isn't the reason for the invasion, all we care about is halal and haram and what he did was mostly halal except for 9/11 and him killing women and children + suicide bombing is haram or suicide in any manner so 9/11 is really another big haram.
 
This is not true. At all. Ijmaa says the opposite.
What are you talking about? You're saying the majority of scholars approve of slavery?
Yes but that was only for the time being, now we ban it straight up and without any care about doing it in stages. If the ruler says Alcohol is allowed (Which means halal) then he is a kafir.
That's the flexibility of the shariah by the same token even tobacco should be haram via qiyas but scholars are too lenient in their application.
Maslahah does not mean you can send your Muslim brother out to die in the hands of the kuffar. The life of a Muslim is greater than the life of a kafir. https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3047
Stop quoting random hadiths. Bin laden was a liability, you don't plunge the entire country into a war. He should've been extradited to America to face justice over there as he committed a crime in their lands.

That's like saying Tony Blair and George Bush shouldn't face charges because they're non-Muslims in non-Muslim lands.
BL was a Salafi, he'd takfir those maturidis like any other salafi for being a Jahmi.
Then why didn't he promote violence against Taliban? He was upset with their sufi practices too. It was at his thinking that the Taliban destroyed the Bayamin Buddhist statues - which were there for thousands of years and Muslims didn't do anything about it and no one was really worshipping them anyway.

I wouldn't say this is true. If he was a tool then America really bet its money on the wrong horse. We do not care if he is or isn't the reason for the invasion, all we care about is halal and haram and what he did was mostly halal except for 9/11 and him killing women and children + suicide bombing is haram or suicide in any manner so 9/11 is really another big haram.
Some scholars justify suicide bombings - not saying they're right but they see it as martyrdom and not on par with suicide in the traditional sense but going to war and dying.
 
What are you talking about? You're saying the majority of scholars approve of slavery?
Yes.
That's the flexibility of the shariah by the same token even tobacco should be haram via qiyas but scholars are too lenient in their application.
Tobacco is not haram in any madhab. The scholars today who say its haram don't understand it, are ignorant, or in their own perverted self-interest they think banning tobacco is good. The last one is kufr and makes them a kafir if such is the case.

Tobacco does not intoxicate you and as for it being hurtful, everything is. Living in a polluted city, being obese etc... all should be haram because they're bad and cut your lifespan but its not. Obesity was actually well known in the Muslim world, I remember Ali giving his opinion on it too so they definitely knew but didn't say it was haram.

Stop quoting random hadiths. Bin laden was a liability, you don't plunge the entire country into a war. He should've been extradited to America to face justice over there as he committed a crime in their lands.

That's like saying Tony Blair and George Bush shouldn't face charges because they're non-Muslims in non-Muslim lands.
We cannot make takfir of Bin Laden. Why do you think it is random? It clearly says a Muslim cannot be punished for killing a kafir so we cant punish him by sending him to the USA where we know what will happen to him.

It was at his thinking that the Taliban destroyed the Bayamin Buddhist statues
There is nothing wrong with this. Neither from the Salafi nor the Sufi side. Because Sufism is detached from fiqh and does not affect fiqh.

Some scholars justify suicide bombings - not saying they're right but they see it as martyrdom and not on par with suicide in the traditional sense but going to war and dying.
They're wrong then. The problem with that comparison is that you literally kill yourself by your own means whereas going into a situation where there is a high likelihood of dying, there's a chance you can come out alive.
 
No they don't. Don't be ignorant.
Tobacco is not haram in any madhab. The scholars today who say its haram don't understand it, are ignorant, or in their own perverted self-interest they think banning tobacco is good. The last one is kufr and makes them a kafir if such is the case.

Tobacco does not intoxicate you and as for it being hurtful, everything is. Living in a polluted city, being obese etc... all should be haram because they're bad and cut your lifespan but its not. Obesity was actually well known in the Muslim world, I remember Ali giving his opinion on it too so they definitely knew but didn't say it was haram.
That's a bad analogy. Living in a polluted society or being obese - the former is something inevitable and collectively responsible. The latter is personal responsibility and a consequence of lack of self control when eating which is something all humans must do. There is no reason to smoke other than to harm yourself.

It's not a binary halal or haram scenario. Eating too much is makruh.
We cannot make takfir of Bin Laden. Why do you think it is random? It clearly says a Muslim cannot be punished for killing a kafir so we cant punish him by sending him to the USA where we know what will happen to him.
He killed innocent people doesn't matter. If a Muslim commits a crime he is responsible irrespective of where or who he commited it against.
There is nothing wrong with this. Neither from the Salafi nor the Sufi side. Because Sufism is detached from fiqh and does not affect fiqh.
I was saying it was there for thousands of years and only at the behest of a salafi they destroyed it.

It's only salafis who destroy ancient monuments and shrines - they did the same thing across the 19th and 20th century. They probably would've destroyed the prophets grave by now if they weren't pressured into not doing so.
They're wrong then. The problem with that comparison is that you literally kill yourself by your own means whereas going into a situation where there is a high likelihood of dying, there's a chance you can come out alive.
You really can't accept another juristic opinion can you?

I don't even agree with them but I accept their validity.
 
You really can't accept another juristic opinion can you?

I don't even agree with them but I accept their validity.
Not all Jurist opinions are equal, some opinions are strong by use of their argument.

Do you know that Chess is deemed haram because it is said to be a game of chance? This ofcourse, is absurd and the scholars saying this were wrong. Though there is no sin on their part unless they were misguiding people knowingly.

I will respond to your other queries later.
 
No she wasn’t. She was in her early teens at the earliest.
I read in those days they started counting age after you hit puberty.
 
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