Test Cycle

[Ultramental]

i love seeing a good steroid cycle cheers

 

[molecule8]

overall a good cycle but idk if test p is useful, would go for test e

gonna bump the above, propinate has quite a low ROI and not much of a use case for it. just use ethanate for test so that you have more stable levels

question on ur hcg, are u trying to have kids on-cycle or not? 250IU daily is excessive for most people. you really just need around 900-1000IU weekly to prevent any testicular atrophy. spaced out injections are good to mimic natural release and stable levels tho

assuming you're already on an 5a agonist as others have mentioned

i would recommend pre-ordering some blood pressure medication just in case you decide to later on increase your weekly dose

good luck

 

[Finnishmogger]

Sounds good bro

I need to get my cialis aswell

 

[Orka]

yes, hopefully first & only

@chadisbeingmade what's so funny bub share with the class

 

[savage21]

The order:
Test P 200mg x 5 vials
HCG 5000IU x 10 vials
Aromasin (Exemestane) 25mg x 100 tablets
Tadanafil (Cialis) 20mg x 100 tablets
BAC Water 10x10ml
[ $223 with shipping ]

Plan:
70mg Test P daily
250IU HCG eod
16 week cycle


@BR32 @Nexom @lebesgue

Mogger. Do you have some sort of 5 ARI?

 

[Chad]

@chadisbeingmade what's so funny bub share with the class

2 years will pass and you will say “I started my first cycle 2 years ago, I’ll let you know when I finish it”

 

[Orka]

2 years will pass and you will say “I started my first cycle 2 years ago, I’ll let you know when I finish it”

it's hillarious you think I'll be financially stable enough to buy my own shit for a whole 2 years

@aids funded this entire cycle, 100% of it, and now makes me send him weird stuff in dms because of it

 

[Greyascension]

2 years will pass and you will say “I started my first cycle 2 years ago, I’ll let you know when I finish it”

"2 years ago 250mg was my cycle, now I'm cruising on it"

 

[Chad]

"2 years ago 250mg was my cycle, now I'm cruising on it"

we cruise on a gram over here sir

 

[Greyascension]

ONLY 223$, Also where's your telmisartan, Mirin everything else though hugely

 

[Greyascension]

we cruise on a gram over here sir

Me personally I like my blood turned into syrup from EQ

 

[Sepsin]

ONLY 223$, Also where's your telmisartan, Mirin everything else though hugely

I personally prefer valsartan since it can help with debloating alongside eplerenone.

But I think telmi also works…

what do u think?

 

[Sepsin]

oh also telmisartan

what are your thoughts on valsartan instead?

 

[BR32]

what are your thoughts on valsartan instead?

Both are fine

Very similar

Both are ARBs

Telmi has longer half life tho so better overall protection

 

[Sepsin]

Both are fine

Very similar

Both are ARBs

Telmi has longer half life tho so better overall protection

well I’m planning on taking valsartan 80mg ED for my cycle regardless

so I’m assuming the half life wouldn’t be an issue

 

[chot]

another retard fell for test p lmao, especially wwb test

 

[bignigga]

oh also telmisartan

did you start taking telmisartan as soon as you started test? or did you wait a bit to see any changes in your blood pressure?

The order:
Test P 200mg x 5 vials
HCG 5000IU x 10 vials
Aromasin (Exemestane) 25mg x 100 tablets
Tadanafil (Cialis) 20mg x 100 tablets
BAC Water 10x10ml
[ $223 with shipping ]

Plan:
70mg Test P daily
250IU HCG eod
16 week cycle


@BR32 @Nexom @lebesgue

why test p??? i would go test e

 

[BR32]

did you start taking telmisartan as soon as you started test? or did you wait a bit to see any changes in your blood pressure?

why test p??? i would go test e

I started telmi immediately

Telmi, Cardio, and Reta are how you protect your heart and stay healthy on roids

LVH doesn't play

 

[Sepsin]

I been playing with berberine, reta, and test for nutrient partitioning and its actually insane

I cannot gain fat anymore lol

adding reta seems very interesting for insulin sensitivity.

But I personally alr have a hard time consuming maintenence, with reta I’d be a literal skeleton lol

 

[BR32]

adding reta seems very interesting for insulin sensitivity.

But I personally alr have a hard time consuming maintenence, with reta I’d be a literal skeleton lol

I take a low does for insulin sensitivity, nutrient partitioning, and metabolic health

it depends on your baseline hunger hormones tho if it makes you not be able to eat its not great

 

[bignigga]

I started telmi immediately

Telmi, Cardio, and Reta are how you protect your heart and stay healthy on roids

LVH doesn't play

what's your current cycle? is it just test?

 

[BR32]

what's your current cycle? is it just test?

On 300 test, 4 iu gh, and a load of other non anabolic ancillaries and drugs

 

[Sepsin]

did you start taking telmisartan as soon as you started test? or did you wait a bit to see any changes in your blood pressure?

why test p??? i would go test e

Test P has to downsides against E or C IMO

1. It’s less forgiving if you forget to pin once or twice

2. PIP is much worse

But besides that, P has the edge over everything else. Especially in terms of bloating, and getting earlier into PCT.

 

[bignigga]

On 300 test, 4 iu gh, and a load of other non anabolic ancillaries and drugs

do you just take reta for insulin sensitivity on hgh

 

[BR32]

Test P has to downsides against E or C IMO

1. It’s less forgiving if you forget to pin once or twice

2. PIP is much worse

But besides that, P has the edge over everything else. Especially in terms of bloating, and getting earlier into PCT.

I pin daily and the main reason people bloat is cause they don't pin frequently enough

 

[Sepsin]

I take a low does for insulin sensitivity, nutrient partitioning, and metabolic health

it depends on your baseline hunger hormones tho if it makes you not be able to eat its not great

For a clean bulk while on cycle what caloric surpluss would you recommend?

tbh I’m thinking on staying at +300kcal, since I don’t plan on cutting afterwards.

I’m alr a bit skinny so

 

[BR32]

do you just take reta for insulin sensitivity on hgh

Reta, berberine, fish oil, and im lean

 

[BR32]

For a clean bulk while on cycle what caloric surpluss would you recommend?

tbh I’m thinking on staying at +300kcal, since I don’t plan on cutting afterwards.

I’m alr a bit skinny so

You don't need to bulk

Just eat a maintenance or +100kcal

Excess calories don't drive muscle tissue accrual

 

[bignigga]

Reta, berberine, fish oil, and im lean

what do you think of rosuvastatin for ldl

 

[Sepsin]

I pin daily and the main reason people bloat is cause they don't pin frequently enough

no, I get that. Once you pin ED, e2 is way more controlled and you keep a lot of the bloat away.

But still anecdotally, a lot of people tend to give the edge to P in regards to water retention for some reason (even when comparing same admnistration frequencies)

@chadisbeingmade knows abt this.

But I might be wrong though…

 

[BR32]

what do you think of rosuvastatin for ldl

I avoid statins personally

I have had no trouble controlling my lipids without statins

 

[BR32]

no, I get that. Once you pin ED, e2 is way more controlled and you keep a lot of the bloat away.

But still anecdotally, a lot of people tend to give the edge to P in regards to water retention for some reason (even when comparing same admnistration frequencies)

@chadisbeingmade knows abt this.

But I might be wrong though…

I'm on E rn maybe ill switch over to P

 

[Sepsin]

I'm on E rn maybe ill switch over to P

yeah I’d give it a try, but be aware of PIP and don’t buy high concentrations (>100mg/ml) or bad carrier oils.

These will make the PIP 10x worse

A lot of big names like MPMD or even Clav did the switch and still use Test P to this day.

 

[BR32]

yeah I’d give it a try, but be aware of PIP and don’t buy high concentrations (>100mg/ml) or bad carrier oils.

These will make the PIP 10x worse

A lot of big names like MPMD or even Clav did the switch and still use Test P to this day.

I had been musing over it for a while anyways so this is my inspiration after I finish my test E

I stick to MCT as carrier pretty religiously

 

[Sepsin]

I had been musing over it for a while anyways so this is my inspiration after I finish my test E

I stick to MCT as carrier pretty religiously

yeah MCT is the best IMO

My source uses MCT, but also uses low BB, so my vials come w/ crystal often.

It’s a good sign (meaning the supplier didn’t purposefully dillute the concentration a lot and underdosed), but if I don’t pre-warm it, I get a terrible PIP 24hrs after.

 

[BR32]

yeah MCT is the best IMO

My source uses MCT, but also uses low BB, so my vials come w/ crystal often.

It’s a good sign (meaning the supplier didn’t purposefully dillute the concentration a lot and underdosed), but if I don’t pre-warm it, I get a terrible PIP 24hrs after.

I have a similar setup w mild crystals

I am very hesitant to pin non MCT oil just from the likelihood of other oils oxidizing.

Oxidized oil injected into my body doesn't sound great.

 

[bignigga]

I avoid statins personally

I have had no trouble controlling my lipids without statins

so you take

telmisartan
coq10
accutane
reta
fish oil
dut
berberine

is there anything else?

 

[BR32]

so you take

telmisartan
coq10
accutane
reta
fish oil
dut
berberine

is there anything else?

Thats it for now

 

[BR32]

so you take

telmisartan
coq10
accutane
reta
fish oil
dut
berberine

is there anything else?

I also take other drugs but these are steroid supports and health supps

 

[Sepsin]

The order:
Test P 200mg x 5 vials
HCG 5000IU x 10 vials
Aromasin (Exemestane) 25mg x 100 tablets
Tadanafil (Cialis) 20mg x 100 tablets
BAC Water 10x10ml
[ $223 with shipping ]

Plan:
70mg Test P daily
250IU HCG eod
16 week cycle


@BR32 @Nexom @lebesgue

how are you going abt checking your e2 levels while on cycle? @Orka

without an actual LC-MS/MS bloodwork e2 readings come off as very inaccurate.

unfortunately, here in EU we almost only have ECLIA. So, only people from the US have the luck of being able to get LC-MS/MS

 

[Orka]

how are you going abt checking your e2 levels while on cycle? @Orka

without an actual LC-MS/MS bloodwork e2 readings come off as very inaccurate.

unfortunately, here in EU we almost only have ECLIA. So, only people from the US have the luck of being able to get LC-MS/MS

I have a private clinic that does my entire family's health-work, I spoke to my doctor about getting biweekly/monthly bloodwork but didn't tell him about the fact I'm doing a test cycle, although I'm pretty sure he'll notice lol

I asked him and he said they can check e2, but I suppose I should ask what kind of bloodwork they do.

 

[Sepsin]

I have a private clinic that does my entire family's health-work, I spoke to my doctor about getting biweekly/monthly bloodwork but didn't tell him about the fact I'm doing a test cycle, although I'm pretty sure he'll notice lol

I asked him and he said they can check e2, but I suppose I should ask what kind of bloodwork they do.

lol, mirin low inhib

if your doctor snitches, your family will know you’re on roids lol.

well, most likely he checks e2 through ECLIA.

Here in Portugal, only universities and institutes have access to LC-MS/MS, and even in the US only a few online clinics have access to it.

 

[Orka]

lol, mirin low inhib

if your doctor snitches, your family will know you’re on roids lol.

well, most likely he checks e2 through ECLIA.

Here in Portugal, only universities and institutes have access to LC-MS/MS, and even in the US only a few online clinics have access to it.

he wont, but even if he will I doubt my family will care, they'll probably just sit me down, ask me if i know what im doing or if im pinning random shit, and i'll lie to them and tell them I know what I'm doing

also just checked, its ECLIA for sure, over!

 

[Sepsin]

he wont, but even if he will I doubt my family will care, they'll probably just sit me down, ask me if i know what im doing or if im pinning random shit, and i'll lie to them and tell them I know what I'm doing

also just checked, its ECLIA for sure, over!

No worries. With ED injections, your e2 will most likely stay in check, even at 500 mg/week.

It’s a good idea to watch for any symptoms of high e2 and still get bloodwork but interpret the results with a grain of salt.

I’m personally running 300 mg/week with ED injections just to get a reference point for e2 at this dose (even using ECLIA).

After that, I can titrate up to 500mg/week and compare the levels, in case they rise significantly.

 

[chot]

I started telmi immediately

Telmi, Cardio, and Reta are how you protect your heart and stay healthy on roids

LVH doesn't play

again, you do not need telmi as soon as you start your cycle. taking telmi when you dont need it will make your bp drop too low and cause a bunch of side effects. if you need telmi, your bp will show it.

 

[BR32]

again, you do not need telmi as soon as you start your cycle. taking telmi when you dont need it will make your bp drop too low and cause a bunch of side effects. if you need telmi, your bp will show it.

I’m talking low-standard dose telmi not to totally tank BP but to protect against left ventricular hypertrophy.

Telmisartan blocks the AT1 receptor, which reduces the effects of angiotensin II on the heart.

It’s not just about BP but about cardiac remodeling.

 

[whodoievenbelieve]

Reta, berberine, fish oil, and im lean

I saw this guide from mcmental https://looksmax.org/threads/do-not-take-berberine.1719556/ what do u think

 

[BR32]

I saw this guide from mcmental https://looksmax.org/threads/do-not-take-berberine.1719556/ what do u think

It’s not a problem in clinical trials, seems highly tissue specific

 

[views]

The order:
Test P 200mg x 5 vials
HCG 5000IU x 10 vials
Aromasin (Exemestane) 25mg x 100 tablets
Tadanafil (Cialis) 20mg x 100 tablets
BAC Water 10x10ml
[ $223 with shipping ]

Plan:
70mg Test P daily
250IU HCG eod
16 week cycle


@BR32 @Nexom @lebesgue

no var ferda huzz? seems like u should throw ts in there

 

[BR32]

no var ferda huzz? seems like u should throw ts in there

Pre summer stack is Reta, MT2, Var, and PT 141