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is test good for first cycle or should I use other thing , and how much should i spend and where should I infeject it if from , and the doses i’m, is 250 good for start ?
 
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is test good for first cycle or should I use other thing , and how much should i spend and where should I infeject it if from , and the doses i’m, is 250 good for start ?
250 is high TRT dude.

300 minimum, and after 4-6 weeks (after blood test to check E2, RBC should be fine) then raise to 400-500. Max out at 600 to stay within the clinically studied Supra range, if you want.
 
250 is high TRT dude.

300 minimum, and after 4-6 weeks (after blood test to check E2, RBC should be fine) then raise to 400-500. Max out at 600 to stay within the clinically studied Supra range, if you want.
what about the cost , how much should i spend ?
 
what about the cost , how much should i spend ?
Testosterone is one of the cheapest you can buy.

I buy Test every 2-3 months, 2 vials at a time. I do 400mg a week.

It's around $170 in my currency, in USD that's $120 for x2 250MG PER ML (10ML VIAL) Test Cyp

You should be doing a long cycle for your first one to allow your body to fully take in new anabolic environment. You don't even notice significant physical changes till 11 weeks in. So do 9-12 months.
 
Testosterone is one of the cheapest you can buy.

I buy Test every 2-3 months, 2 vials at a time. I do 400mg a week.

It's around $170 in my currency, in USD that's $120 for x2 250MG PER ML (10ML VIAL) Test Cyp

You should be doing a long cycle for your first one to allow your body to fully take in new anabolic environment. You don't even notice significant physical changes till 11 weeks in. So do 9-12 months.
can you suggest me any vendor and where I need to enject it
 
can you suggest me any vendor and where I need to enject it
My guy if you can't spell inject I don't think you should start roids.

Do you even no what to look out for when on Testosterone?
 
My guy if you can't spell inject I don't think you should start roids.

Do you even no what to look out for when on Testosterone?
hair loss probably and other thing
 
Testosterone is one of the cheapest you can buy.

I buy Test every 2-3 months, 2 vials at a time. I do 400mg a week.

It's around $170 in my currency, in USD that's $120 for x2 250MG PER ML (10ML VIAL) Test Cyp

You should be doing a long cycle for your first one to allow your body to fully take in new anabolic environment. You don't even notice significant physical changes till 11 weeks in. So do 9-12 months.
Hey, so Im a 16 year old with low test and wanna start a cycle to boost it,

Please answer bc my voice, physique, and bonemass is genuinely cooked, like I cant gain muscle. My testosterone was 280ng/dl the last time I checked it


1: how should I do pct? I keep hearing different things, should I be on HCG the whole cycle? Do I have to be on more than one serm like nolvadex and enclomphmiene? What doses do I take? I wait 2 weeks after the last injection right?

I cant have my natural t suppressed for too long after hopping off because I'm still developing

Basically how to go about pct

2: How should I taper off Arimidex/Aromasin usage at the end of my cycle? just stop after the last injection? Does it work differently depending on the drugs if so please specify?
 
is test good for first cycle or should I use other thing , and how much should i spend and where should I infeject it if from , and the doses i’m, is 250 good for start ?
500 to mog
 

Hey, so Im a 16 year old with low test and wanna start a cycle to boost it,

Please answer bc my voice, physique, and bonemass is genuinely cooked, like I cant gain muscle. My testosterone was 280ng/dl the last time I checked it


1: how should I do pct? I keep hearing different things, should I be on HCG the whole cycle? Do I have to be on more than one serm like nolvadex and enclomphmiene? What doses do I take? I wait 2 weeks after the last injection right?

I cant have my natural t suppressed for too long after hopping off because I'm still developing

Basically how to go about pct

2: How should I taper off Arimidex/Aromasin usage at the end of my cycle? just stop after the last injection? Does it work differently depending on the drugs if so please specify?


I was 280ng too.

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Going from that to 2000ng was life changing for me.


I wrote an entire guide on how to start your first cycle as a teen. You are 16, you should be pushing both Test, an aggressive AI and HGH ASAP.
 

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I was 280ng too.

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Going from that to 2000ng was life changing for me.


I wrote an entire guide on how to start your first cycle as a teen. You are 16, you should be pushing both Test, an aggressive AI and HGH ASAP.
did u do it after or before puberty, and what's ur dose to go to 2000? did you need AI with that dose?

Also, did u notice any change in bone structure or voice?
 
did u do it after or before puberty, and what's ur dose to go to 2000? did you need AI with that dose?

Also, did u notice any change in bone structure or voice?
After puberty, I just turned 21 when I started.

My dosage was 300mg to get 2000ng but it depends on person to person.

Yes you do an AI with that dosage, ESTROGEN is what closes your growth plates.

So you should be nuking Estrogen (but not too low where you have low E2) but enough to delay the growth plates closing

You can get an X-Ray to confirm if plates are opened or not.

My bone structure was already set, thankfully I naturally Mew and had good chewing habits, my voice has always been a bit deeper.

Testosterone is the primary hormone responsible for deepening the voice. It'll make your larynx grow and the vocal cords to thicken and lengthen.

I'd recommend a lower dosage for you, like 150-200mg/week MAX and focus on HGH and making sure your Estrogen stays as low as you can without feeling like shit.
 
After puberty, I just turned 21 when I started.

My dosage was 300mg to get 2000ng but it depends on person to person.

Yes you do an AI with that dosage, ESTROGEN is what closes your growth plates.

So you should be nuking Estrogen (but not too low where you have low E2) but enough to delay the growth plates closing

You can get an X-Ray to confirm if plates are opened or not.

My bone structure was already set, thankfully I naturally Mew and had good chewing habits, my voice has always been a bit deeper.

Testosterone is the primary hormone responsible for deepening the voice. It'll make your larynx grow and the vocal cords to thicken and lengthen.

I'd recommend a lower dosage for you, like 150-200mg/week MAX and focus on HGH and making sure your Estrogen stays as low as you can without feeling like shit.
why lower dose, why not 250 so my physical development can catch up from being low test, and why were u 280 at fucking 21

Also, how long did it take to notice strength or physique changes
 
why lower dose, why not 250 so my physical development can catch up from being low test, and why were u 280 at fucking 21

Also, how long did it take to notice strength or physique changes

Because we do not know whether you are a high aromatizer yet.

If you are a super aromatizer like I was (440 E2, like 2 adult women worth of Estrogen) then you will prematurely close your growth plates.

250 is HIGH TRT that will put you well over 1000+ ng and you'll beat out all your peers.

I had 280ng because I was secondary hypogonadal.

I noticed mental differences and strength in the first 4-9 weeks.

Real changes began to appear, working out 5 days a week, at home no gym, eating 200g of protein a day, at 11+ weeks.

As is known in the literature, they weren't kidding when they said the Deltoid and Chest is the first to grow the most significantly on Test. The growth I had on my deltoids and chest were incredible.

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This was 13 weeks in, only 300mg but I jumped to 400mg that week in the photo.

24 inch bidelt, never measured before but that's above average.
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And this is from 12 weeks on 300mg of Test.
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As in every photo, it's the deltoids that stick out the most. And thank God they do. Deltoids are what give you frame and make you frame mog. I read everywhere it was the first thing to grow, I didn't really believe it, but it's 100% true.

I'm at the 15 week mark, but I did cope methods before. SERMs, supplements, all the other nonsense and garbage, last year after extensive research on Testosterone and how to run it in a safe, healthy way, I hopped on gear in December of last year.


Coming from 200ng to Supra levels was one of the best feelings, I highly recommend you hop on IF YOU ARE INTELLIGENT enough to understand it and make sure everything is covered.

If you don't, you'll RUIN yourself.
 
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Because we do not know whether you are a high aromatizer yet.

If you are a super aromatizer like I was (440 E2, like 2 adult women worth of Estrogen) then you will prematurely close your growth plates.

250 is HIGH TRT that will put you well over 1000+ ng and you'll beat out all your peers.

I had 280ng because I was secondary hypogonadal.

I noticed mental differences and strength in the first 4-9 weeks.

Real changes began to appear, working out 5 days a week, at home no gym, eating 200g of protein a day, at 11+ weeks.

As is known in the literature, they weren't kidding when they said the Deltoid and Chest is the first to grow the most significantly on Test. The growth I had on my deltoids and chest were incredible.

View attachment 4884857
This was 13 weeks in, only 300mg but I jumped to 400mg that week in the photo.

24 inch bidelt, never measured before but that's above average.
View attachment 4884858
And this is from 12 weeks on 300mg of Test.
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As in every photo, it's the deltoids that stick out the most. And thank God they do. Deltoids are what give you frame and make you frame mog. I read everywhere it was the first thing to grow, I didn't really believe it, but it's 100% true.

I'm at the 15 week mark, but I did cope methods before. SERMs, supplements, all the other nonsense and garbage, last year after extensive research on Testosterone and how to run it in a safe, healthy way, I hopped on gear in December of last year.


Coming from 200ng to Supra levels was one of the best feelings, I highly recommend you hop on IF YOU ARE INTELLIGENT enough to understand it and make sure everything is covered.

If you don't, you'll RUIN yourself.
i think I am because I have gyno
 
i think I am because I have gyno
Why have you not went to doctor for Gyno?

You understand if you don't catch it early it becomes a solid tissue and you have to get surgery right?

Tamoxifen is a SERM that directly targets Estrogen in the breast, take it quickly if its still early. 20mg a day for 45 days of it
 
Why have you not went to doctor for Gyno?

You understand if you don't catch it early it becomes a solid tissue and you have to get surgery right?

Tamoxifen is a SERM that directly targets Estrogen in the breast, take it quickly if its still early. 20mg a day for 45 days of it
idk I've had it since I was 12, wayy before my balls even dropped
 
Why have you not went to doctor for Gyno?

You understand if you don't catch it early it becomes a solid tissue and you have to get surgery right?

Tamoxifen is a SERM that directly targets Estrogen in the breast, take it quickly if its still early. 20mg a day for 45 days of it
My biggest concern is the length of the PCT since If I have test down regulated for too long it could stunt growth, i think my low test is natural and not conditional
 
Brutal, talk to your family doctor about it.

Do you feel the tissue above your nipple?
yeah so should I keep an AI on hand because I'm pretty sure I'm sensitive
 
My biggest concern is the length of the PCT since If I have test down regulated for too long it could stunt growth, i think my low test is natural and not conditional
You won't have bad PCT if you do what I recommend in my guide and run hCG throughout your cycle.

If that's too much for you, just take a SERM like Clomid or Enclomiphene.

It'll boost your Testosterone by 2-3x roughly. Not as good as Supra but will put you into high-natural.
 
yeah so should I keep an AI on hand because I'm pretty sure I'm sensitive
In your case I'd get a bloodtest before starting cycle and see where you are at. I'd start the AI 2-3x a week and see how you feel.


Use Grok as your doctor for symptoms you have come up.
 
You won't have bad PCT if you do what I recommend in my guide and run hCG throughout your cycle.

If that's too much for you, just take a SERM like Clomid or Enclomiphene.

It'll boost your Testosterone by 2-3x roughly. Not as good as Supra but will put you into high-natural.
Doesn't that suppress growth hormone though?

I wanna do hcg but I don't have a refrigerator I can hide, is there a way I can normally do test, without needing HCG and the PCT can be no longer than 6 weeks?
 
Doesn't that suppress growth hormone though?

I wanna do hcg but I don't have a refrigerator I can hide, is there a way I can normally do test, without needing HCG and the PCT can be no longer than 6 weeks?
You can find hiding places in the fridge or buy a mini fridge.

If not, then you can skip out on PCT and Test all together, and just run a SERM like Clomid until you are old enough to actually afford stuff.

And take HGH + an AI if you are able for height if plates are open.

A SERM like clomid 2-3x's your Testosterone.
 

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