Test for life? or pct for the win

[snowbunnyhunter6]

if i run a small cycle of 250mg of test per week pinned everyday to avoid hormonal spikes and do pct using HCG, clomid, and enclo could i theoretically not have to take testosterone for the rest of my life? this is basically the only reason i havent hopped on and it isnt even that big of a reason because ive heard anyone who has tried test loves it.

 

[jaycc]

steroids always nuke your natural hormones

pct can help start to get them back but pct or not you still have to just wait and pray you get it back

dont be a pussy just do it

 

[snowbunnyhunter6]

steroids always nuke your natural hormones

pct can help start to get them back but pct or not you still have to just wait and pray you get it back

dont be a pussy just do it

so basically even if you do everything correctly theres stil a >50% chance that my natural production will never come back and i will always have to run even a small amount of test

 

[jaycc]

so basically even if you do everything correctly theres stil a >50% chance that my natural production will never come back and i will always have to run even a small amount of test

>you run test

>natural test gets nuked

>you quit test and wait

>if youre lucky you get it back completely, less lucky you get slightly lower levels for life, really unlucky you get fucked levels for life and need test

 

[wristcel]

so basically even if you do everything correctly theres stil a >50% chance that my natural production will never come back and i will always have to run even a small amount of test

i'm no expert at all, but from what i'm told, the moment you start injecting T, at whatever dose, your own production shuts down, and it might never be able to get back to your baseline.

It's always put me off injecting, although I still keep wanting to do it. I had my natty levels tested and my free and total T was way higher than i'd guessed them to be. So I feel like it's risky/stupid to mess with it in my case? But at the same time, really elevated levels along with the ease of building muscle, losing fat, and even mental improvements that comes along with it, is tempting!

 

[jaycc]

i'm no expert at all, but from what i'm told, the moment you start injecting T, at whatever dose, your own production shuts down, and it might never be able to get back to your baseline.

It's always put me off injecting, although I still keep wanting to do it. I had my natty levels tested and my free and total T was way higher than i'd guessed them to be. So I feel like it's risky/stupid to mess with it in my case? But at the same time, really elevated levels along with the easy of building muscle, losing fat, and even mental improvements is tempting!

if you already had high test chances are you will recover easier or recover to a higher level than most people would

 

[copeuntilumakeit]

so basically even if you do everything correctly theres stil a >50% chance that my natural production will never come back and i will always have to run even a small amount of test

if you are young cycle isn't long and you don't have hormonal issues there's a very very high chance you ll comeback

 

[primalmaxer]

if i run a small cycle of 250mg of test per week pinned everyday to avoid hormonal spikes and do pct using HCG, clomid, and enclo could i theoretically not have to take testosterone for the rest of my life? this is basically the only reason i havent hopped on and it isnt even that big of a reason because ive heard anyone who has tried test loves it.

250mg cycle will be fine. the younger you are the easier recovery will be.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

PCT is actually a scam for drug gurus to get more money out of you. In reality, most bodybuilders are never off gear long enough to need it. Do you guys really think Sergio Oliva or Lou Ferrigno ever did that nonsense?

 

[Sub5kang]

steroids always nuke your natural hormones

pct can help start to get them back but pct or not you still have to just wait and pray you get it back

dont be a pussy just do it

Not even that expensive only good bw is
Trt for life mogs anyways you'll be on it sooner or later if you have higher than room temp iq that is. Your testosterone levels dip after you're 30 and there's only negatives from staying natty

 

[jaycc]

Not even that expensive only good bw is
Trt for life mogs anyways you'll be on it sooner or later if you have higher than room temp iq that is. You testosterone levels dip after you're 30 and there's only negatives from staying natty

yeah my mates dad went on trt and hes jacked now and says he feels better than he ever has his whole life

 

[Sub5kang]

yeah my mates dad went on trt and hes jacked now and says he feels better than he ever has his whole life

Even the NHS provides hormone replacement therapy yet people still think hopping on testosterone is unsafe

 

[Sub5kang]

really unlucky you get fucked levels for life and need test

Which isn't even that bad of a trade off. If people aren't ready for lifelong trt they should stay natty tbh

 

[jaycc]

Which isn't even that bad of a trade off. If people aren't ready for lifelong trt they should stay natty tbh

i just dont believe i will be the unlucky one

 

[Sub5kang]

i just dont believe i will be the unlucky one

Me neither

 

[jaycc]

Me neither

when you hopping on

 

[Sub5kang]

when you hopping on

Next 3-4mo I have to plan out the full cycle to avoid being on vacation so as I'm long enough to reap the full benefits on before going down to a trt dose
Might be faster though I remember talking about GH a couple months ago thinking I'd never hop on but I eventually caved

 

[jaycc]

Next 3-4mo I have to plan out the full cycle to avoid being on vacation so as I'm long enough to reap the full benefits on before going down to a trt dose
Might be faster though I remember talking about GH a couple months ago thinking I'd never hop on but I eventually caved

hows GH

 

[Sub5kang]

hows GH

Insane dreams and it feels so vivid and life-like. I once woke up to piss middle of the night this week went back to sleep and had 2 completely different dreams in the same night, heck I don't even usually dream I just go to bed and wake up. Only sides in getting is pins and needles really frequently, if I lie on one side of my body I can feel it creeping in within 5m. I also yawn constantly but I think it's because my diet is shit and my sleep schedule is fucked.

 

[jaycc]

Insane dreams and it feels so vivid and life-like. I once woke up to piss middle of the night this week went back to sleep and had 2 completely different dreams in the same night, heck I don't even usually dream I just go to bed and wake up. Only sides in getting is pins and needles really frequently, if I lie on one side of my body I can feel it creeping in within 5m. I also yawn constantly but I think it's because my diet is shit and my sleep schedule is fucked.

you look or feel any better?

 

[Sub5kang]

you look or feel any better?

If anything I look worse, GH bloat is real but I do feel more energised and I'm able to more consistently hit my top sets in the gym, I haven't measured my height as I'm 7 days in as of today

 

[jaycc]

If anything I look worse, GH bloat is real but I do feel more energised and I'm able to more consistently hit my top sets in the gym, I haven't measured my height as I'm 7 days in as of today

good luck bro hope all goes well

 

[kwjqxlw99]

I started last week and already feel better

 

[kwjqxlw99]

Imagine being natty in 2026 jfl

 

[snowbunnyhunter6]

yeah real shi test for life isnt the worst case scenario but im new to pinning and would rather have the option to stop whenever i want than having to continue it. its like having a dog and being able to put it up for adoption whenever you want but in reality dogs are great and having one for the rest of your life isnt that bad but having the option to get rid of it is nice. maybe that was a really autistic example but it makes sense in my head

 

[sherry12]

steroids always nuke your natural hormones

pct can help start to get them back but pct or not you still have to just wait and pray you get it back

dont be a pussy just do it

Not a single person ever has lost the fertility from a fucking 250mg cycle, if your smart you can always recover for any amount.

 

[snowbunnyhunter6]

Not a single person ever has lost the fertility from a fucking 250mg cycle, if your smart you can always recover for any amount.

im talking about my natural test levels more than anything fertility is relatively easy to get back but free test and total test from what ive heard is harder to get back once you hop on. (if its even possible to come back to your full baseline)