How much test did you take and how long did you take it for? How old are you now if u dont mind me asking
gram a day :7
Why wouldn't you? 200mg is very little though (if you workout). At 17 I did 400mg which was considered on the lower side. I stopped growing at 14 so all I experienced was sweating a lil more, better sleep and some water weight. If you wanna push out some last millimeters in height at your age I'd prob up the hgh too.
I do workout like 2-3x a week but 200mg i was told was on the lower but safer side and still raised test 2-3x baseline. My physique is not bad already but honestly i'd just like to max out facial dimorphism. I also want to recover later on and not fuck my balls and brain up tho.
16 weeks total 25 for 10 then 400 for 6
Did you recover from it now that you're older? Also, did it like significantly change your face or not at all
Recover as in what way? I don't know if my face changed. I'm 20 now and I think I look the same. I feel like my face has always been the same just like my height the past 6 years.
Are you you still on test and if not what did you do when hopping off?
Ofc I'm not on test still, It was meant to be a 20 week cycle but ran out after 16 weeks because of the dead space in syringes. After the cycle I just swallowed my daily pct pill for a while then continued my life like nothing happened.
Recover from frying your balls. I read online that not everyone recovers from exogenous test and some need lifetime pct and might not be able to have kids or anything like that. But apparently the younger you are the more your body is capable to recover, but it can also disrupt your hormones for the rest of your life and you might have lower baseline t levels.
The risk of endogenous testosterone production shutdown and infertility is there but not as common as you might think, use hcg on cycle to prevent temporary testicular shrinkage and it also keeps your balls awake and not atrophied. PCT mostly just speeds up the recovery period, although some people who went infertile/no sperm production etc have recovered with hmg and hcg later on and some don’t recover their baseline endogenous production back so PCT doesn’t hurt to do but isn’t needed either
Yeah i feel like when i ask AI or people online they say never take test because it'll fuck you up for life but the results of test are just unmatched. tbh idk what the chances of recovery are for me . Is recovery mostly genetics or is it how you do your PCT?
Its just basic fear-monger theres a lot of possible side effects but no one experiences every single one of them at the same time and some don’t even experience a singular one, its based on how you tolerate and respond to it which is as with everything, genetic. A TRT dose is even healthy if you naturally produce low amounts of testosterone.
Yeah i was told 200mg was a good beginner dose and i would probably just do 1-2 cycles max (3 months maybe). Honestly i dont really care about the physique as it'll come with the test but my main goal is to look more masculine and have a more dimorphic face. Do you think 200mg can achieve that because according to ai even with 200mg i can achieve 1500ng/dL+ at 17-18 which is what i want.
Should i do 200mg and multiple cycles or like 300-400mg and only do 1-2 cycles? Which is safer for recoveyr and more effective for the face
Yeah but why do people and AI says it’s gonna fuck you up for life and its too risky
Only reason to begin with a lower dose should be to see your initial response to the compound itself tbh doing 1-2 cycles of 200mg is pretty pointless, and you wont have and significant physique changes (if you aren't low t naturally) nor will you experience facial masculinisation or dimorphic effects. You achieving 1500ng/dl on 200mg fully depends on your genetics.
If you already plan to do multiple cycles you might aswell blast and cruise and up the dose yeah try to make the most out of it, and even if you don't care about physique changes atleast you'll have some physique halo if you train ideally and hit your macros or even micros on the daily.
if you’re rich go for it, mitigating all those side effects gon be a burden
Which side effects bro there wont be any on 200mg test and 4iu rhGH
But isn't 200mg of test still an amount that can make a dent? I think clav said 200mg to start is good.
Oh shit grams and barely any changes to your face at 15? Then isn't it lowkey cope?
Your liver wont get effected on 200mg
200mg is better than nothing but it wont cause anything you're seeking
Yeah im getting a genioplasty in 2-3 years i already started braces for now. What dose do you recommend then for what im seeking without like frying me for life?
yeah just watch for liver health with hgh and sterility with test
My balls never shrunk so I never had to think about them and dude 200mg is basically naturally levels. Stop being so soy. Your balls can sometimes get smaller since you stop naturally producing testosterone, they go back to normal when you produce testosterone again. 400mg is also so little so it didn't do much to me, my friend does 1.5g and it hasen't changed his face either. If you don't want your balls to shrink you could literally just take hcg for them to stay normal and you to produce test naturally even during a cycle. Balls shrinking has no risk tho, only reason to take hcg is if you'd have a wife who'd want your balls to stay big.
Dude you can almost do any dose without it frying you for shit, wtf is this fearmongering. It's literally just test
1500ng/dl is so little though, my natural test was already in the 4 digit before I injected test. 3 months is short for a cycle too. You'd rather do a few longer than more shorter cycles. Quality over Quantity
been on since 16 bump the HGH to 6IU and the test to 300
I noticed that sleep was shit when i was on 6iu because i pin it right before bed but yeah im trying to go back to 6IU
If your body dosent like 6IU then try not to push it too much. as long as bloods are good though you should be fine
Yo but i dont understand how some people's face change and others dont. Like for example Clav's face changed so much from abusing roids for years since he was 14 but other people are saying that even on grams on roids there face dont change.
(also 20 iu hgh daily)
Ok, and what’s your plan rn? You gonna take just hgh or you think you gonna do test as well? I’m in the same situation as u and got hgh on the way but not sure if it’s worth doing test or not, I’m just worried about messing up my natural production permanently if I do it wrong
ive been on hgh for about a month now this is my second cycle. Haven't noticed anything that much different tbh, but im pretty sure i fucked up the refrigeration process for my first cycle. I turn 18 in february and rn with school and shit i dont really have time to work.
Second cycle of hgh? Also how much hgh are you taking and how quickly did you get to your current dose? Also do you/ do you plan on taking an ai or nah because I know it can mess with your IQ
Yeah second cycle because hgh is far safer than test. I think i started with 2IUs when i first did it back in august and then i bumped it up to 4 and then 6. But at 6 i had trouble sleeping because HGH can raise cortisol so i lowered it back down to 4. Haven't seen any bad so far and sleep has been pretty good on 4IUs.
