Test is the best thing ever

[Lauren de Graaf]

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[Chad]

Genuinely has to be ragebait at this point @Chad ban this retard holy fuck

he’s retarded enough to use sarms. he’s got room temp iq, don’t bother

 

[FiendFiend]

There is lo “life long commitment” retard.

100% of people can recover from AAS abuse. Not 98%. Not 99%. 100%.

Never utter another word to me again.

Lol defending your drugs as much as weed addicts.

U literally tell people to run test for 16 weeks and go cold turkey

mental retardation. Your fucking yourself and its so volitile and unsustainable. Your gonna fucking deflate like a balloon when u think ur time is up after using test. U retards have like 0 plans for when your 30.

I am absolutely not against optimizing ur test, your physique , frame, but that level physique he has can be done without test. it can take 2 years for ur body to recover natural test production. Do u think people who r doing this all based on emotion, when the time comes and they have to go "cold turkey" like u said, they wont absolutely fucking lose their minds and become super unhealthy?

If u dont have the discipline to work out natty or even take some light PEDs here and there to get to 73 kilos, ur not gonna have the discipline when ur hormones are in the shitter for 2 years when u need to quit.

 

[FiendFiend]

he’s retarded enough to use sarms. he’s got room temp iq, don’t bother

Oh yeah because fucking ostarine is gonna put my test in the shitter? Actually my test went up after my cycle cuz i was severely underweight. I did it the right way. Im probably one of the only few that actually NEEDED , PEDs to put on size. I put on 10 kilos of muscle mass in 2 months. Especially when Im eating healthy, planning on using enclo and HCG to get my natural test production up next month.

I dont know how big of a fucking slave you must be to dependent on the fucking state for you to even function as a human. Im mirin though

 

[Chad]

U literally tell people to run test for 16 weeks and go cold turkey

If you weren’t a literal donkey then you’d know the use of HCG makes any SERM completely fucking redundant. But you are a donkey, so your lack of understanding is, well, understandable.

I’m not reading the rest of your slop since the first point you made was laughable. I can only imagine how comical the rest is. Back up anything you have to say (you can’t cos it’s all bullshit) or DNR and shut the fuck up. I’m not going back and forth with a retarded, clueless teen.

 

[FiendFiend]

If you weren’t a literal donkey then you’d know the use of HCG makes any SERM completely fucking redundant. But you are a donkey, so your lack of understanding is, well, understandable.

I’m not reading the rest of your slop since the first point you made was laughable. I can only imagine how comical the rest is. Back up anything you have to say or DNR. I’m not going back and forth with a retarded, clueless teen.

Lol this is so fucking corny , when retards would act like they are experts , the typical mod, defends test like its God

cOMpleTELY fuCKing RedunDAnt

HCG can be used as a PCT after using SERMs. Wheres ur proof that it cant be?

Lol always some fuckign faggot mod with a checkmark acting like he some fucking noble aristocracy on here. How dare i challenge u faggot? Lol talking about clueless teen, tell this clueless teen to go run 500 test and go cold turkey for 2 years

 

[FiendFiend]

If you weren’t a literal donkey then you’d know the use of HCG makes any SERM completely fucking redundant. But you are a donkey, so your lack of understanding is, well, understandable.

I’m not reading the rest of your slop since the first point you made was laughable. I can only imagine how comical the rest is. Back up anything you have to say (you can’t cos it’s all bullshit) or DNR and shit the fuck up. I’m not going back and forth with a retarded, clueless teen.

A common trait with drug addicts is when you remotely criticize and tell them "maybe u shouldnt run test at 17" they start throwing a fucking fit. Literally weed addict level response.

Lol calling me a retard for 0 reason trying to act like u have some high horse. God u must be a bunch of fun to hang out with irl

 

[Chad]

Lol this is so fucking corny , when retards would act like they are experts , the typical mod, defends test like its God

cOMpleTELY fuCKing RedunDAnt

HCG can be used as a PCT after using SERMs. Wheres ur proof that it cant be?

Lol always some fuckign faggot mod with a checkmark acting like he some fucking noble aristocracy on here. How dare i challenge u faggot? Lol talking about clueless teen, tell this clueless teen to go run 500 test and go cold turkey for 2 years

0 arguments made.

HCG can be used as a PCT after using SERMs. Wheres ur proof that it cant be?

funniest thing is that’s never what I said. HCG is not PCT. I said it makes PCT redundant, donkey. Illiterate fucking moron.

 

[sadcel]

test is a life long commitment, and before even finishing puberty. Jfl imagine being reliant on the government or some shady roid site, or u making a certain income so ur body functions

taking a drug that will leave u reliant on it till ur death at 17 is an interesting choice. Why didnt u just run enclo and HCG if u wanted test. Im sure it feels good though im not denying that man but there could have been other routes to get ur test artificially raised without fucking ur long term health

After the cycle you will get your testosterone back, how fast depends on the PCT and your lifestyle. And you will still keep 60-80% of the gains you got with roids. Stop with this nihilist idea shared by bodybuilding forums.

You can just do one cycle and never touch PEDs again.

 

[FiendFiend]

0 arguments made.



funniest thing is that’s never what I said. HCG is not PCT. I said it makes PCT redundant, donkey.

Tell me why I cant use enclo then use HCG. You cant. Because it will increase my free test production.

 

[FiendFiend]

After the cycle you will get your testosterone back, how fast depends on the PCT and your lifestyle. And you will still keep 60-80% of the gains you got with roids. Stop with this nihilist idea shared by bodybuilding forum.

You can just do one cycle and never touch PEDs again.

often after 2 years.

Just one cycle though brah, just one cycle. Nah man Im not against PEDs but really use Test as a last resort or if your test is comically low naturally. Imo test is a life long commitment. Btw 60-80% of ur gains? So 60% is literally like half ur gains gone? So ur telling me if I put on

So if u gain 30lbs , ur losing 10 whole fucking lbs? Bro at that point why even run test , if u can get those results natty and not harm ur health and have to do PCT.

Its jsut such a volatile state to be in. Dont get me wrong people who r on test often have amazing physiques, on top of the world, but ur gonna have to come down eventually. Ur gonna just keep turning from on top of the world, ripped, to out of shape, weak, losing muscle mass?

I never ever saw someone who ran test who stopped and then maintained. Let me know if u find someone.

 

[FiendFiend]

After the cycle you will get your testosterone back, how fast depends on the PCT and your lifestyle. And you will still keep 60-80% of the gains you got with roids. Stop with this nihilist idea shared by bodybuilding forums.

You can just do one cycle and never touch PEDs again.

Im not being nihlist man im just being realistic, if something is too good to be true, its too good to be true. Your better off using some PEDs, that dont fuck up ur hormones so badly, to get to ur physique goal, and maintaining.

I ran ostarine and even after Im still going up in weight, lean, able to lift heavier, kept 100% of my gains. U should use PEDs like people use IGF-1s , to get to the place u want to be, then maintain. Acting like test is ozempic or reta, that its easy as fuck to maintain after ur off it is just so wrong.

It fucks up ur hormones so bad, its just not worth it all. U should make educated risk assesments before ur taking this shit. I can name u a BUNCH of SARMs goblins who stayed in amazing shape after. David Laid is walking around the same as he did since 2016 , 10 years later cuz hes a SARMs goblin, im pretty sure clav said on stream.

Even then overusing SARMs can turn u into alex eubank to where u need a low dosage of TRT cuz how hard u tanked ur natural test production.

 

[aidentxst]

How long have you been in the gym and how long have you been enhanced?

 

[sadcel]

Im not against PEDs but really use Test as a last resort or if your test is comically low naturally.

This is not a suggestion, that's literally a medical need (TRT when your test is very low) And again there is always risks related to PEDs only a retard would say the contrary. In my opinion if you do only test cycle and don't touch roids such as Tren, the benefit-risk ratio is good.

And you're somehow right most of the time people just continue blasting more, I guess it's human nature. Once you pull MTBs, you want to pull HTBs,stacies etc etc it's never enough. But if you have a clear goal and are responible you could just stop after one cycle.

About OP who's 17 yo, I think he had a very good body for his age considering his peers are either skeleton skinny or overweight. He might have been influenced by the roids/reta/peptides side of tiktok to start blasting this young but whatever....

 

[Genio]

nigga talm bout sum "okay base"
that's literally my dream BF% and physique rn

"okay base" and im not even fucking close to it

fuarkkk

 

[FiendFiend]

This is not a suggestion, that's literally a medical need (TRT when your test is very low) And again there is always risks related to PEDs only a retard would say the contrary. In my opinion if you do only test cycle and don't touch roids such as Tren, the benefit-risk ratio is good.

And you're somehow right most of the time people just continue blasting more, I guess it's human nature. Once you pull MTBs, you want to pull HTBs,stacies etc etc it's never enough. But if you have a clear goal and are responible you could just stop after one cycle.

About OP who's 17 yo, I think he had a very good body for his age considering his peers are either skeleton skinny or overweight. He might have been influenced by the roids/reta/peptides side of the tiktok to start blasting that young but whatever....

yeah its sad man. Then again, with test, there is not "one cycle" even with ostarine i was literally able to work out 6-7 days a week, and now i had to cut back to 4-5 times a week just cuz the recovery isnt as great ur not able to train so much. Even something as light as ostarine, with such minimal effects, had me doubting for a second. Of course i ended up keeping my gains + gaining.

People just say "one cycle brah one cycle" its never like that man. And even with SARMs people end up abusing them and tanking their test long term like alex eubank.

I do agree, if u were to run test, u should do one cycle with a test base + something else, then try ur hardest to maintain that shit. The issue is u dont know how ur gonna respond, whether ur natural test will return in 4 months of 2 years. And just to go from such an all time high to feeling qutie regular and shitty is pretty bad. People say theyd do one cycle too, but most end up doing multiple.

OP's body looks like hes a 34 year old croccy site worker, but is 17. I'd just recommend people to run a SARM, run some enclo , run some HCG, i gurantee u, u will be super happy with your physique in 6 months time. 2 months on a SARM, 2 months cruise dont take shit, 2 month enclo, 2 month HCG.

Eat good as fuck, lift heavy, do the usual, if your not happy then, you may consider hopping on something. I think OP could have got there in 6 months doing what Im doing, Anything past a certain level is teetering on the edge of body dysmorphia. People really are putting their body through the shitter, just to get a couple lbs over something that is achievable without test or anything crazy.

 

[Striated]

look at you go nigga

 

[Lauren de Graaf]

look at you go nigga

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[Striated]

test is a life long commitment, and before even finishing puberty. Jfl imagine being reliant on the government or some shady roid site, or u making a certain income so ur body functions

taking a drug that will leave u reliant on it till ur death at 17 is an interesting choice. Why didnt u just run enclo and HCG if u wanted test. Im sure it feels good though im not denying that man but there could have been other routes to get ur test artificially raised without fucking ur long term health

nah at 17 u havent done enough research or had the life experience to go on a life long commitment. U signed a will to be on test ur whole life at 17, until the day u die. U dont know what ur circumstance is gonna be like in 10 years, and it seems like a decision that was purely based on emotion without much reasoning.

After a couple years u realize u will be getitng more sides than benefits, if something is too good to be true it is too good to be true

Your body looks like the body of a 34 year old croccy site worker who goes to the gym at 17. Ur fucking urself bro. Ur not gonna be able to do a drug forever, even caffiene in long term use just causes u to have a reliance and needing more and more to actually get benefits.

Instead of increasing ur free test production with HCG, enclo, good habbits , ur injecting at 17 and becoming a slave to a compound. How do u know if u will have that money to cough it up in 5 years time. 300 a month or more too till ur like 70? if u think ur gonna be able to run 500 test the rest of ur life, ur in for a very very rude awakening

Yeah u think u can run 500 test the rest of ur life? u fucking imbecile hes 17 hes doing it based on emotion, ima be waiting when hes gonna have insane withdrawals, eventually lose mass, because he is going to choose to lower his doses and feel shittier.

Ur literally hitting a peak in your lifting and test levels so early on and for what reason? Ur not even in the age that test peaks.

Nigga was 14 in 2023 talm about muhhh i neeeddd test.

Purely irrational decision making and natural selecting. GG man, how the fuck do u have the chest test glow at 17. Cooked

Nice strawman, NEVER ever made an argument on him becoming infertile then send a study on spermatogenesis

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Retards who abuse test at young age are clearly prone to anger issues , no rational thinking and will defend their drugs theyre taking as much as a weed addict would.

mate you're genuinely such a retard, how is it even possible to have takes as shitty as yours

 

[Striated]

something as light as ostarine

stopped reading

fucking imbecile

 

[FiendFiend]

stopped reading

fucking imbecile

Ostarine is one of the least androgenic SARMs and is a PED with some of the least side effects ever known keep coping though.

Theres been studies on this, the suppression is super mild and my test went up after my 2 month cycle on it

keep copign though bhai i forgot ur the genius. Your so genius you cant even cough up a response

 

[FiendFiend]

mate you're genuinely such a retard, how is it even possible to have takes as shitty as yours

muhh mate urr retardedddd u should be taking test at 17 to get to 72 kilos

 

[Striated]

Ostarine is one of the least androgenic SARMs and is a PED with some of the least side effects ever known keep coping though.

Theres been studies on this, the suppression is super mild and my test went up after my 2 month cycle on it

keep copign though bhai i forgot ur the genius. Your so genius you cant even cough up a response

i'd rather stare at a wall than even bother responding to your idiocy

 

[Kinan]

Water post idc, but for reference im a 17yr M and lowkey just in a good mood rn, but using androgens was one of the best decision of my life, im more confident then ever, my lifts are blowing up, my physique is slowing coming together, girls are genuinely noticing me more and sparking convos with me, and i feel amazing 24/7, if anyone is not using roids i would strongly recommend

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Broda i thought you was a foid

 

[its.Achilles]

Water post idc, but for reference im a 17yr M and lowkey just in a good mood rn, but using androgens was one of the best decision of my life, im more confident then ever, my lifts are blowing up, my physique is slowing coming together, girls are genuinely noticing me more and sparking convos with me, and i feel amazing 24/7, if anyone is not using roids i would strongly recommend

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W post bro mirin physique

 

[onlyseec]

none if im going to be honest with you, so far i have had a very safe cycle, just be open with your doc

bro how are your parents ok with it

 

[Yuno101]

just shut the fuck up you are an utter retard

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290529081_Recovery_of_spermatogenesis_following_testosterone_replacement_therapy_or_anabolic_androgenic_steroid_use

What is this supposed to prove? If he takes steroids for years then stops it’ll take months-years for his natural T levels and sperm count to come back(if it ever comes back) even with pct. He may feel bad in the meantime because of low T levels

 

[Heathh]

Water post idc, but for reference im a 17yr M and lowkey just in a good mood rn, but using androgens was one of the best decision of my life, im more confident then ever, my lifts are blowing up, my physique is slowing coming together, girls are genuinely noticing me more and sparking convos with me, and i feel amazing 24/7, if anyone is not using roids i would strongly recommend

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Mirin physique

 

[verdad]

Water post idc, but for reference im a 17yr M and lowkey just in a good mood rn, but using androgens was one of the best decision of my life, im more confident then ever, my lifts are blowing up, my physique is slowing coming together, girls are genuinely noticing me more and sparking convos with me, and i feel amazing 24/7, if anyone is not using roids i would strongly recommend

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IF YOUR NOT ON TEST YOUR NOT HUMAN- A10