Test or Enclo?

[acsensionbeforeover]

If I'm not ready for the risk of exogenous testosterone potentially ruining my natural t and sperm production, is enclo a valid option? I heard it can lower your igf-1 but i'm pairing with 6iu of growth anyway. To me, it sounds like a simpler and safer alternative for a beginner but can anyone tell me if it's worth it or if androgens just mog.

 

[vampi]

You dont go infertile you the second you inject test, you gotta blast for months straight to get infertile, its rly hard to stop production with good planning and a solid pct

 

[Deleted member 262735]

If I'm not ready for the risk of exogenous testosterone potentially ruining my natural t and sperm production, is enclo a valid option? I heard it can lower your igf-1 but i'm pairing with 6iu of growth anyway. To me, it sounds like a simpler and safer alternative for a beginner but can anyone tell me if it's worth it or if androgens just mog.

You can have your sperm stored in a sperm bank btw. $10-$20/month. Or you can just stop TRT and your sperm production will return in 6 months or so.

As for natural T, it's already ruined. We have really low testosterone compared to our ancestors due to our sedentary lifestyle and unhealthy diets. Your testosterone has already been ruined.

 

[ketamin]

No just pin

 

[chway]

If I'm not ready for the risk of exogenous testosterone potentially ruining my natural t and sperm production, is enclo a valid option? I heard it can lower your igf-1 but i'm pairing with 6iu of growth anyway. To me, it sounds like a simpler and safer alternative for a beginner but can anyone tell me if it's worth it or if androgens just mog.

If you’re dead set on an enclo cycle and you want as few side effects as possible you could run mk instead of gh. It also raises igf. Could also look into igf1-lr3 if igf is the only thing you’re worried about

 

[acsensionbeforeover]

If you’re dead set on an enclo cycle and you want as few side effects as possible you could run mk instead of gh. It also raises igf. Could also look into igf1-lr3 if igf is the only thing you’re worried about

are you a fucking jew or what? why on earth would i run mk over hgh?

 

[Garfungus]

are you a fucking jew or what? why on earth would i run mk over hgh?

you're the fucking pussy who wants to run ENCLO (like nigga what lol) instead of pinning test, but HGH is fine???

 

[acsensionbeforeover]

you're the fucking pussy who wants to run ENCLO (like nigga what lol) instead of pinning test, but HGH is fine???

yes nigga hgh is fine it aint a fucking roid. i wanna make sure i can impregnate a woman later in life retard

 

[Garfungus]

yes nigga hgh is fine it aint a fucking roid. i wanna make sure i can impregnate a woman later in life retard

read over what you said and listen to how retarded you sound. You'll take potentially having enlarged organs over potential infertility if you're going to do a substance and least do your research first

or better yet Just leave all the roids and hormones to me you fucking pussy

 

[acsensionbeforeover]

read over what you said and listen to how retarded you sound. You'll take potentially having enlarged organs over potential infertility if you're going to do a substance and least do your research first

or better yet Just leave all the roids and hormones to me you fucking pussy

you're GENUINELY trying to say that HGH is worse, health wise, than testosterone? jesus christ go kys retard jew

 

[Garfungus]

you're GENUINELY trying to say that HGH is worse, health wise, than testosterone? jesus christ go kys retard jew

My point is if someone is scared of testosterone because of side effects, they should also be cautious about HGH both affect major hormonal systems and both carry real risks, which is why the other user was suggesting MK-677.

"kys retard jew" nigga are you 13 "mom can I buy some peptides and hgh please" absolute wimp

 

[acsensionbeforeover]

if someone is scared of testosterone because of side effects, they should also be cautious about HGH both affect major hormonal systems and both carry real risks,

"kys retard jew" nigga are you 13 "mom can I buy some peptides and hgh please" absolute wimp

mf no shit. ive been on hgh ik the sides, i've done research. hgh is a no brainer if ur not stupid. test needs more planning, higher risk of long term effects.

don't assume everyone is just as retarded as you.

 

[Garfungus]

mf no shit. ive been on hgh ik the sides, i've done research. hgh is a no brainer if ur not stupid. test needs more planning, higher risk of long term effects.

don't assume everyone is just as retarded as you.

fuck you nigga I don't know you and your experiences

 

[chway]

are you a fucking jew or what? why on earth would i run mk over hgh?

Was just trying to help boss

 

[adamplouzx]

If I'm not ready for the risk of exogenous testosterone potentially ruining my natural t and sperm production, is enclo a valid option? I heard it can lower your igf-1 but i'm pairing with 6iu of growth anyway. To me, it sounds like a simpler and safer alternative for a beginner but can anyone tell me if it's worth it or if androgens just mog.

Enclo doesn’t lower IGF1. Since it increases undirectly testosterone then it actually increases slightly your IGF1 by a immeasurable amount.

 

[acsensionbeforeover]

Enclo doesn’t lower IGF1. Since it increases undirectly testosterone then it actually increases slightly your IGF1 by an immeasurable amount.

but it’s no where near as effective as test yeah?

 

[adamplouzx]

but it’s no where near as effective as test yeah?

Yea that’s true and I confused things I’m sorry test does increase IGF1 so testosterone with HGH would be a very good synergy.

 

[Wuffy101]

Anything but hcg or a planned pct ig