Test P ED vs Test E EOD?

[volgaTz]

My first blast thread:

https://looksmax.org/threads/first-blast-at-17-high-iq-roiders-gtfih-need-advice.1942638/

Initially I wanted to start my first blast with 70mg test e, pinning every day (490mg per week)
Then I thought about switching to test p, to minimize bloat and other e2 sides

Lowk I am a pussy tho and have never pinned before and idk if I want to pin test every day since I am also planning on adding other compounds later on
Also test p is more expensive then test e, since I am buying from a local ugl and not a chinese ugl

Is the bloat difference big between test e eod and test p ed?

Would you recommend me to start with eod injections?
Also could I switch mid blast to test p ed? If I want to minize sides

 

[m0ss26]

Every day regardless of ester or compound

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Every day regardless of ester or compound

I see a lot of people eod here when serum is 10x better when pinning ed

good reply

 

[volgaTz]

Every day regardless of ester or compound

should I do e or p tho?

 

[volgaTz]

when serum is 10x bette

wym?

 

[m0ss26]

should I do e or p tho?

My opinion, E is best

 

[volgaTz]

My opinion, E is best

many say P bloats less
what are the benefits of E over P?

 

[m0ss26]

many say P bloats less
what are the benefits of E over P?

Higher serum concentration, ur peak and then maintenance from there will be higher levels of T using E vs P, its also more stable (less fluctuation in serum testosterone level)

That being said i could give a fuck about a little bloat so I never really considered that, you could be right. Although I dont bloat much unless I push above 500/week

 

[volgaTz]

Higher serum concentration, ur peak and then maintenance from there will be higher levels of T using E vs P

That being said i could give a fuck about a little bloat so I never really considered that, you could be right. Although I dont bloat much unless I push above 500/week

is 500mg (ig 490, but 500 sounds cooler) a good dose for my first blast at 17?

I will be having anastrozol on hand but will look at bw first before using it

 

[m0ss26]

is 500mg (ig 490, but 500 sounds cooler) a good dose for my first blast at 17?

I will be having anastrozol on hand but will look at bw first before using it

Yes

Also try not to use an AI unless you have to, especially if ur on gh

I assume ur plates are closed right?

 

[volgaTz]

Also try not to use an AI unless you have to, especially if ur on gh

yea like I said Ill have anas as an ai on hand and only will use it if I see crazy symptoms or based on bw results
Also I am not on gh but I def will add it later on

I assume ur plates are closed right?

idk.. Im 6'4 dgaf if theyre closed or not
But why are u asking tho

 

[m0ss26]

idk.. Im 6'4 dgaf if theyre closed or not
But why are u asking tho

Some idiots will be like 18 deluding themselves into thinking they can still grow so they blast AIs while on test to try and stop the accelerated bone aging, just don’t worry about it ur good you have the right idea

Just take ur 500 test and throw a little growth in later if you want and don’t use the AI unless ur nips are going crazy, you already know the drill

 

[volgaTz]

Just take ur 500 test and throw a little growth in later if you want and don’t use the AI unless ur nips are going crazy, you already know the drill

I have gyno since I am like 12
My right nip got a bit better like 2 years ago but my left stayed the same..


U think raloxifene will help?

 

[m0ss26]

I have gyno since I am like 12
My right nip got a bit better like 2 years ago but my left stayed the same..


U think raloxifene will help?

Yea i would try ralox asap no harm in it and i think you might get some shrinkage

 

[cynical]

Every day regardless of ester or compound

Test p every day

 

[cynical]

I have gyno since I am like 12
My right nip got a bit better like 2 years ago but my left stayed the same..


U think raloxifene will help?

Gtfo off this forum u don’t even produce semen

 

[volgaTz]

Test p every day

Gtfo off this forum u don’t even produce semen

?

 

[cynical]

?

Did you say u were 12

 

[volgaTz]

Did you say u were 12

learn how to read nigga

 

[cynical]

“I have gyno since I am like 12 “

 

[volgaTz]

Yea i would try ralox asap no harm in it and i think you might get some shrinkage

what do you think about my other ancillaries?

https://looksmax.org/threads/first-blast-at-17-high-iq-roiders-gtfih-need-advice.1942638/

 

[volgaTz]

Did you say u were 12

I said I had gyno since I am like 12

I dont remember exactly cuz I have it for such a long time now
In other words I dont remember when I didnt had gyno lol

 

[m0ss26]

what do you think about my other ancillaries?

https://looksmax.org/threads/first-blast-at-17-high-iq-roiders-gtfih-need-advice.1942638/

All looks good, i dont even think you’ll need the tudca or citrus bergamot or even omega 3s, im just not a big believer in those supps doing anything

I doubt your face will get more dimorphic outside of if you get some level of browridge/neck hypertropy but might as well try and get a good physique in the process. If ur already past a NW0 u might as well get on the dut preemptively for the skin and hair benefits

 

[cynical]

I said I had gyno since I am like 12

I dont remember exactly cuz I have it for such a long time now
In other words I dont remember when I didnt had gyno lol

Rep me

Also I have the same issue but doesn’t ralox antagonize ER alpha?

 

[volgaTz]

Rep me

"rep ratio is for homos"​

Also I have the same issue but doesn’t ralox antagonize ER alpha?

yes but specifically in breast tissue
thats why Ill start it asap and will have an ai on hand

 

[cynical]

"rep ratio is for homos"​

yes but specifically in breast tissue
thats why Ill start it asap and will have an ai on hand

I mean it’s an ER agonist for bones tho unless ur done growing it could fuse ur plates

 

[volgaTz]

I mean it’s an ER agonist for bones tho unless ur done growing it could fuse ur plates

idk man didnt research that

Im 6'4 dgaf if theyre closed or not

 

[volgaTz]

All looks good, i dont even think you’ll need the tudca or citrus bergamot or even omega 3s, im just not a big believer in those supps doing anything

really? if so I would safe a lot of money
those sups are really so much more expensive then everything I get from indiamart jfl

I doubt your face will get more dimorphic outside of if you get some level of browridge/neck hypertropy

u think any other compounds will help? Its lowk the biggest goal
What about mandible? I mean zyzzreincarnate also did it somehow no?

but might as well try and get a good physique in the process.

will try my best, been hitting the gym for over 2 years now and still a wristcel

If ur already past a NW0 u might as well get on the dut preemptively for the skin and hair benefits

nah I have elite hair genetics thats why Ill have it on hand at first but will start with oral minox asap, but u think taking dut at 17 is fine? some replies said otherwise..
U think ru58841 is good? Its just so expensive and I want to save as much as I can, thats why I also cant hop on hgh rn

 

[Whatsamaxilla__]

Yes

Also try not to use an AI unless you have to, especially if ur on gh

I assume ur plates are closed right?

Why restrict AI?
Im not too familiar with stuff revolving pharmaceuticals yet but i thought an AI was needed?

 

[volgaTz]

Why restrict AI?
Im not too familiar with stuff revolving pharmaceuticals yet but i thought an AI was needed?

low e2 has sides too
its important not to nuke ur e2 especially during development

thats why Ill have an ai on hand but will only use it based on blood work results

 

[Whatsamaxilla__]

low e2 has sides too
its important not to nuke ur e2 especially during development

thats why Ill have an ai on hand but will only use it based on blood work results

ohh okay, how often are you getting bloods?

 

[volgaTz]

ohh okay, how often are you getting bloods?

I will do my first baseline blood test, right after ordering every ancillary I need from indiamart

After starting the blast, ideally as often as u can, maybe every 4 weeks
Realisticlly Ill do it every 6-8 weeks, maybe If I got enough money every month


first baseline blood test (23 + 4 parameters):
300-350€

Spoiler: parameters

CBC
Estradiol (E2)
Total Testosterone
ALT
AST
GGT
HDL Cholesterol
LDL Cholesterol
Creatinine
LH
FSH
Prolactin
SHBG
Triglycerides
CRP
Total Bilirubin
TSH
Free T3 (fT3)
Free T4 (fT4)
HbA1c
PSA
Glucose
Urea

optional:
IGF-1
DHEA-S
Albumin
Homocysteine

Mid blast (10 + 1 parameters):
60-90€

Spoiler: parameters

E2
total T
hematocrit,
HDL
LDL
TG
ALT
AST
GGT
CRP

optional / if I add hgh:
IGF-1

 

[Whatsamaxilla__]

I will do my first baseline blood test, right after ordering every ancillary I need from indiamart

After starting the blast, ideally as often as u can, maybe every 4 weeks
Realisticlly Ill do it every 6-8 weeks, maybe If I got enough money every month


first baseline blood test (23 + 4 parameters):
300-350€

Spoiler: parameters

CBC
Estradiol (E2)
Total Testosterone
ALT
AST
GGT
HDL Cholesterol
LDL Cholesterol
Creatinine
LH
FSH
Prolactin
SHBG
Triglycerides
CRP
Total Bilirubin
TSH
Free T3 (fT3)
Free T4 (fT4)
HbA1c
PSA
Glucose
Urea

optional:
IGF-1
DHEA-S
Albumin
Homocysteine

Mid blast (10 + 1 parameters):
60-90€

Spoiler: parameters

E2
total T
hematocrit,
HDL
LDL
TG
ALT
AST
GGT
CRP

optional / if I add hgh:
IGF-1

Ah okay, thanks for this! Guessing i would need to go private for this right? Also we are both in similar places as im close to 18, 6'4 but im a little more muscle and fat than you so im getting lean first with reta then going on test. Just need more research and knowledge first.

 

[volgaTz]

Ah okay, thanks for this! Guessing i would need to go private for this right?

in Germany if u do it with a doctor he will maybe asks questions but Ill be cheaper, but if u just directly go to a lab its anonymous but also more expensive

Also we are both in similar places as im close to 18, 6'4

Yea I already saw it on ur profile same birth year and height

but im a little more muscle and fat than you so im getting lean first with reta then going on test. Just need more research and knowledge first.

fs take your time with research

u can’t imagine how much I just want to blast every imaginable compound and not waste time for eg. dimo changes but I’ll still need the time to gain the knowledge that’s why I planned on adding other big compounds in my second blast

 

[Whatsamaxilla__]

in Germany if u do it with a doctor he will maybe asks questions but Ill be cheaper, but if u just directly go to a lab its anonymous but also more expensive

Ah okay, pretty sure its the same here in the uk but ill probably go private as its easier getting tests frequently

fs take your time with research
u can’t imagine how much I just want to blast every imaginable compound and not waste time for eg. dimo changes but I’ll still need the time to gain the knowledge that’s why I planned on adding other big compounds in my second blast

Yeah i been researching for a month now, im going to start looking on subreddits and just ask guys who are experienced with test as i think thats the smartest move. Or maybe some other forums.

 

[volgaTz]

Yeah i been researching for a month now, im going to start looking on subreddits and just ask guys who are experienced with test as i think thats the smartest move. Or maybe some other forums.

sounds good just dont use gpt at least use claude its much better but u should still read studies
I use ai to help find studies/articles

 

[Whatsamaxilla__]

sounds good just dont use gpt at least use claude its much better but u should still read studies
I use ai to help find studies/articles

Is grok reliable?

 

[Sujumh]

ive seen alot of anecdotes ppl saying they bloat WAY more on test e even on lower dosage compared to test p
worth checking out imo

 

[mogmypsl999]

is 500mg (ig 490, but 500 sounds cooler) a good dose for my first blast at 17?

I will be having anastrozol on hand but will look at bw first before using it

get some letro

 

[volgaTz]

Is grok reliable?

heard many people say grok is valid too
but I have never tried it myself

 

[volgaTz]

ive seen alot of anecdotes ppl saying they bloat WAY more on test e even on lower dosage compared to test p
worth checking out imo

maybe the pinning frequency is more relevant since the avg p user pins often than the avg e user

 

[volgaTz]

get some letro

why should I add another ai?