Test-p or test-e

[ilikepeps]

At 16 would test-p and ai be better or test-e and ai, and what would be the best ai so your growth plates don't fuse together

 

[Finalkiosk]

At 16 would test-p and ai be better or test-e and ai, and what would be the best ai so your growth plates don't fuse together

doesnt really matter, do daily shots of test e

change to p for the last 4 weeks of the cycle so you can pct quicker if you plan on a pct

 

[bddcoper]

neither you dont deserve to experience test

 

[Vrowding]

it's all the same but just a different half life/ester, test propionate would be best to pin every day or every other day to avoid hormone fluctuations but test enanthate can be pinned once a week minimum but it's best to pin 2-4 a week to get less hormone fluctuations

 

[bddcoper]

doesnt really matter, do daily shots of test e

change to p for the last 4 weeks of the cycle so you can pct quicker if you plan on a pct

but test e has more bloating even if you pin daily like with test p?

in that case no one should be using more than a 2-3 vials of test p per cycle to kickstart then hop off for pct and if they are cruising they can save money as a test e cycle is cheaper than a tub of protein powder, but it would have to come with more bloat right or does it not matter if your levels dont come down at night?

 

[Finalkiosk]

but test e has more bloating even if you pin daily like with test p?

in that case no one should be using more than a 2-3 vials of test p per cycle to kickstart then hop off for pct and if they are cruising they can save money as a test e cycle is cheaper than a tub of protein powder, but it would have to come with more bloat right or does it not matter if your levels dont come down at night?

no

the only bloating caused by injections of testosterone is through estrogen

enanthate has a longer halflife, which means it gets realeased more slowly, which means less spikes in aromitase activity, which means less estrogen

prop spikes way quicker which means more aromitization is going to happen.

if your test is bloating you, your eitehr super fat, or pinning once a week

esters have nearly nothing to do with bloating, if anything shorter esters will bloat you more

 

[bddcoper]

no

the only bloating caused by injections of testosterone is through estrogen

enanthate has a longer halflife, which means it gets realeased more slowly, which means less spikes in aromitase activity, which means less estrogen

prop spikes way quicker which means more aromitization is going to happen.

if your test is bloating you, your eitehr super fat, or pinning once a week

esters have nearly nothing to do with bloating, if anything shorter esters will bloat you more

Good to know. how would I switch from test p to test e without hopping off?

 

[Finalkiosk]

Good to know. how would I switch from test p to test e without hopping off?

pin test e daily, get in the habit of doing subq shots every morning, then whatever your dose is, for example

50mg test e a daily, change that to 50mg test p a day

give it 4 weeks then once the test e is out of your system, the test p leaves 3x quicker, meaning your pct will be alot more effective

 

[bddcoper]

pin test e daily, get in the habit of doing subq shots every morning, then whatever your dose is, for example

50mg test e a daily, change that to 50mg test p a day

give it 4 weeks then once the test e is out of your system, the test p leaves 3x quicker, meaning your pct will be alot more effective

im saying im on test p currently, but i am willing to try test e over the summer.

if i pin 45 mg test p daily how can i switch to test e. surely its not as simple as just switching to pinning the equivalent test dose by mass (or lower for cruise) of test e instead of test p?

also thanks this is good to know for pct

 

[Finalkiosk]

im saying im on test p currently, but i am willing to try test e over the summer.

if i pin 45 mg test p daily how can i switch to test e. surely its not as simple as just switching to pinning the equivalent test dose by mass (or lower for cruise) of test e instead of test p?

also thanks this is good to know for pct

test p is 80-83% testosterone
test e is 70-72% testosterone

just up your 45mg test p to 50mg test e

the exact number would be 51.5mg but you wouldnt feel a difference between 50 and 51.5mg, many people cant even tell the difference between 50 and 65mg a day

rule of thumb is just increase your dose by 10% when switching from p to e, and reduce by 10% when switching from e to p

 

[bddcoper]

test p is 80-83% testosterone
test e is 70-72% testosterone

just up your 45mg test p to 50mg test e

the exact number would be 51.5mg but you wouldnt feel a difference between 50 and 51.5mg, many people cant even tell the difference between 50 and 65mg a day

rule of thumb is just increase your dose by 10% when switching from p to e, and reduce by 10% when switching from e to p

Thx can I just immediately go from daily pins of test p to daily pins of test e

For example

Past 4 months: 45 mg test p daily
Yesterday: 45 mg test p
Today: 50 mg test e
Next however long: 50 mg test e

 

[ilikepeps]

test p is 80-83% testosterone
test e is 70-72% testosterone

just up your 45mg test p to 50mg test e

the exact number would be 51.5mg but you wouldnt feel a difference between 50 and 51.5mg, many people cant even tell the difference between 50 and 65mg a day

rule of thumb is just increase your dose by 10% when switching from p to e, and reduce by 10% when switching from e to p

Do you not have to have an ai to limit estrogen and what's the point of using both. Test e and test p, wouldnt just using test make your estrogen levels higher too

 

[Finalkiosk]

Thx can I just immediately go from daily pins of test p to daily pins of test e

For example

Past 4 months: 45 mg test p daily
Yesterday: 45 mg test p
Today: 50 mg test e
Next however long: 50 mg test e

i would do 25mg test p 25mg test e for a week or two

then move onto test e everyday

you might feel slightly testosterone defficient cause the test p leaves your system quickly while the test e is still building up

do 25/25 for a week or two, then 50 test e everyday

you could start 50mg test e everyday right away after stopping test p but your levels are gonna dip slightly for like 3-4 days, not enough to cause any real change in muscle mass but maybe dont do a crazy hard leg day

 

[Finalkiosk]

Do you not have to have an ai to limit estrogen and what's the point of using both. Test e and test p, wouldnt just using test make your estrogen levels higher too

no one said your using both

esters dont matter for estrogen if your administering daily, frequency matters more and not being a fatass