Test VS DHT for Male Dimorphism and Delayed Development

[The Evict]

TEST OR DHT - DOES IT MATTER

I have facial androgynous features as well as soft (abdominal) belly area despite exercising and fasting. Recently, I found out I'm really low on DHT.

Thing is, I'm not sure whether DHT gel is a smart thing to do, as I'm mostly sure DHT itself doesn't help with such things. From what I know, DHT doesn't change overall post-puberty result in growth, as no matter the DHT value, people end up having the same level of development and height, since DHT can only accelerate it to some extent and make your puberty run slightly faster.
I also have higher Prolactin, BUT my T is actually Medium.
So, I came up with the idea of simply pinning Test E and lowering Prolactin since it does more to masculinization and both will still eventually boost my DHT a bit.
Of course I will be using estro inhibs simultaneously.


MAIN CONCERN:

For general understanding, I'm trying to address my issues in development.

I haven't grown an inch and barely had any changes since 11. I'm soon to be 20 and visually look much younger than my peers, people give me 14-15 at most. The voice isn't matured either and I sound like a typical 12 year old (sounded much older when I was 11 and then regressed). Fun fact, I just had my first wet dream at 19 and a half. My height is also considerably shorter than both of my parents' and pinning HGH alone couple years ago didn't help. Therefore, most growth zones itch inconclusively.

Lab tests if anyone interested:
Growth Hormone: 0,2mU/L (0.2 ng/mL)
IGF-1: 227 µg/L (227 ng/mL)
Prolactin: 357 mU/L (16.8 ng/mL)
Estradiol: 105 pmol/L (28.6 pg/mL)
Test: 18.9 nmol/L (545 ng/dL)
Free test: 0.41 nmol/L (11.8 ng/dL)
SHBG: 32 nmol/L
DHT: 1.09 nmol/L (31.6 ng/dL)

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

TEST OR DHT - DOES IT MATTER

I have facial androgynous features as well as soft (abdominal) belly area despite exercising and fasting. Recently, I found out I'm really low on DHT.

Thing is, I'm not sure whether DHT gel is a smart thing to do, as I'm mostly sure DHT itself doesn't help with such things. From what I know, DHT doesn't change overall post-puberty result in growth, as no matter the DHT value, people end up having the same level of development and height, since DHT can only accelerate it to some extent and make your puberty run slightly faster.
I also have higher Prolactin, BUT my T is actually Medium.
So, I came up with the idea of simply pinning Test E and lowering Prolactin since it does more to masculinization and both will still eventually boost my DHT a bit.
Of course I will be using estro inhibs simultaneously.


MAIN CONCERN:

For general understanding, I'm trying to address my issues in development.

I haven't grown an inch and barely had any changes since 11. I'm soon to be 20 and visually look much younger than my peers, people give me 14-15 at most. The voice isn't matured either and I sound like a typical 12 year old (sounded much older when I was 11 and then regressed). Fun fact, I just had my first wet dream at 19 and a half. My height is also considerably shorter than both of my parents' and pinning HGH alone couple years ago didn't help. Therefore, most growth zones itch inconclusively.

Lab tests if anyone interested:
Growth Hormone: 0,2mU/L (0.2 ng/mL)
IGF-1: 227 µg/L (227 ng/mL)
Prolactin: 357 mU/L (16.8 ng/mL)
Estradiol: 105 pmol/L (28.6 pg/mL)
Test: 18.9 nmol/L (545 ng/dL)
Free test: 0.41 nmol/L (11.8 ng/dL)
SHBG: 32 nmol/L
DHT: 1.09 nmol/L (31.6 ng/dL)

Igf-1 needs to be up (500-600)
Test see how u do at 1200-1600 ng

Should help your dht go up too but idk if thats needed man u may be fuckedd

 

[dragomog]

DHT COMES FROM TEST NIGGER

 

[The Evict]

DHT COMES FROM TEST NIGGER

I know, but my Test is within the median reference value and DHT is straight up dogshit

 

[Dewhey321]

TEST OR DHT - DOES IT MATTER

I have facial androgynous features as well as soft (abdominal) belly area despite exercising and fasting. Recently, I found out I'm really low on DHT.

Thing is, I'm not sure whether DHT gel is a smart thing to do, as I'm mostly sure DHT itself doesn't help with such things. From what I know, DHT doesn't change overall post-puberty result in growth, as no matter the DHT value, people end up having the same level of development and height, since DHT can only accelerate it to some extent and make your puberty run slightly faster.
I also have higher Prolactin, BUT my T is actually Medium.
So, I came up with the idea of simply pinning Test E and lowering Prolactin since it does more to masculinization and both will still eventually boost my DHT a bit.
Of course I will be using estro inhibs simultaneously.


MAIN CONCERN:

For general understanding, I'm trying to address my issues in development.

I haven't grown an inch and barely had any changes since 11. I'm soon to be 20 and visually look much younger than my peers, people give me 14-15 at most. The voice isn't matured either and I sound like a typical 12 year old (sounded much older when I was 11 and then regressed). Fun fact, I just had my first wet dream at 19 and a half. My height is also considerably shorter than both of my parents' and pinning HGH alone couple years ago didn't help. Therefore, most growth zones itch inconclusively.

Lab tests if anyone interested:
Growth Hormone: 0,2mU/L (0.2 ng/mL)
IGF-1: 227 µg/L (227 ng/mL)
Prolactin: 357 mU/L (16.8 ng/mL)
Estradiol: 105 pmol/L (28.6 pg/mL)
Test: 18.9 nmol/L (545 ng/dL)
Free test: 0.41 nmol/L (11.8 ng/dL)
SHBG: 32 nmol/L
DHT: 1.09 nmol/L (31.6 ng/dL)

just do proviron on top of ur test base if ur concerned, its a dht derivative and very androgenic, and will probably give the masculinizing effects that you desired.

 

[The Evict]

just do proviron on top of ur test base if ur concerned, its a dht derivative and very androgenic, and will probably give the masculinizing effects that you desired.

Do I up the exemestane dosage if I will pin T and take proviron along with HGH and IGF-1? I have had a great effect taking 12,5 EOD exemestane even without pinning or taking anything extra at all, it dried my body a lot and overall well-being got much better. I don't have any idea abt my bone age and the plates because in my country it's practically impossible to check them and I'm worried to fuck that up if I'm actually delayed, which could make sense as my growth was always like this and never consistent even when I was a toddler unironically

 

[Dewhey321]

Do I up the exemestane dosage if I will pin T and take proviron along with HGH and IGF-1? I have had a great effect taking 12,5 EOD exemestane even without pinning or taking anything extra at all, it dried my body a lot and overall well-being got much better. I don't have any idea abt my bone age and the plates because in my country it's practically impossible to check them and I'm worried to fuck that up if I'm actually delayed, which could make sense as my growth was always like this and never consistent even when I was a toddler unironically

No proviron doesnt convert to e2 and being delayed is better than being late so be grateful but if ur already taking aromasin ( exemestane ) without T, you should up the dose accordingly with the test.

 

[Mighty]

TEST OR DHT - DOES IT MATTER

I have facial androgynous features as well as soft (abdominal) belly area despite exercising and fasting. Recently, I found out I'm really low on DHT.

Thing is, I'm not sure whether DHT gel is a smart thing to do, as I'm mostly sure DHT itself doesn't help with such things. From what I know, DHT doesn't change overall post-puberty result in growth, as no matter the DHT value, people end up having the same level of development and height, since DHT can only accelerate it to some extent and make your puberty run slightly faster.
I also have higher Prolactin, BUT my T is actually Medium.
So, I came up with the idea of simply pinning Test E and lowering Prolactin since it does more to masculinization and both will still eventually boost my DHT a bit.
Of course I will be using estro inhibs simultaneously.


MAIN CONCERN:

For general understanding, I'm trying to address my issues in development.

I haven't grown an inch and barely had any changes since 11. I'm soon to be 20 and visually look much younger than my peers, people give me 14-15 at most. The voice isn't matured either and I sound like a typical 12 year old (sounded much older when I was 11 and then regressed). Fun fact, I just had my first wet dream at 19 and a half. My height is also considerably shorter than both of my parents' and pinning HGH alone couple years ago didn't help. Therefore, most growth zones itch inconclusively.

Lab tests if anyone interested:
Growth Hormone: 0,2mU/L (0.2 ng/mL)
IGF-1: 227 µg/L (227 ng/mL)
Prolactin: 357 mU/L (16.8 ng/mL)
Estradiol: 105 pmol/L (28.6 pg/mL)
Test: 18.9 nmol/L (545 ng/dL)
Free test: 0.41 nmol/L (11.8 ng/dL)
SHBG: 32 nmol/L
DHT: 1.09 nmol/L (31.6 ng/dL)

Levels should be better considering you age. DHT gel will do nothing. Start with low dose proviron and get lsh and fsh tested such as a xray of your hand to determine bone age and growth plate state.
Also, weird question, but do you jerk off allot ?

 

[The Evict]

Levels should be better considering you age. DHT gel will do nothing. Start with low dose proviron and get lsh and fsh tested such as a xray of your hand to determine bone age and growth plate state.
Also, weird question, but do you jerk off allot ?

Impossible to get proper xray in my country. I'm scared that long test + provi sessions would either close my plates for sure or make my face worse cuz im kind of cutecel and thats the only way left for a low dimo manlet. I'm thinking of elevating test only to 1300ng which basically doubles my natural value and taking shorter sessions what do you think? Also, I barely jerk off and have suspected myself in having low libido right after my last spurt at 11.

 

[Lonely]

Impossible to get proper xray in my country. I'm scared that long test + provi sessions would either close my plates for sure or make my face worse cuz im kind of cutecel and thats the only way left for a low dimo manlet. I'm thinking of elevating test only to 1300ng which basically doubles my natural value and taking shorter sessions what do you think? Also, I barely jerk off and have suspected myself in having low libido right after my last spurt at 11.

You have nothing to lose

500mg Test and 50mg Anavar daily and forget

 

[Mighty]

Impossible to get proper xray in my country. I'm scared that long test + provi sessions would either close my plates for sure or make my face worse cuz im kind of cutecel and thats the only way left for a low dimo manlet. I'm thinking of elevating test only to 1300ng which basically doubles my natural value and taking shorter sessions what do you think? Also, I barely jerk off and have suspected myself in having low libido right after my last spurt at 11.

the thing with proviron is that it doesnt act suppressive at low dosages thats why id start with only that and see if it betters. Hopping on test would endanger your growth plates more. Unless your from the slums i doubt theyr not allowing you an xray if you larp ur hand broken or hurting like crazy.

 

[The Evict]

the thing with proviron is that it doesnt act suppreseive at low dosages thats why id start with only that and see if it betters. Hopping on test would endanger your growth plates more. Unless your from the slums i doubt theyr not allowing you an xray if you larp ur hand broken or hurting like crazy.

I been trying to get xray since 12 I only managed to get 1 finger xray (not even fucking hand) which said nothing, some idiot refugees who worked there told my fingers was almost closed at 18 (they should have been alr closed at that age) but I think they still grew up eventually after and jfl they are the only thing that grows somehow. So do you think provi is enough then if nun happens going with test? As I said I could pin 12.5 EOD aromasin without anything at all and still felt so much better so I guess If I will have to suppress estrogen from both HGH and Test additionally I would have to go with even bigger dosages of aromasin which can fuck me up even more

 

[The Evict]

I been trying to get xray since 12 I only managed to get 1 finger xray (not even fucking hand) which said nothing, some idiot refugees who worked there told my fingers was almost closed at 18 (they should have been alr closed at that age) but I think they still grew up eventually after and jfl they are the only thing that grows somehow. So do you think provi is enough then if nun happens going with test? As I said I could pin 12.5 EOD aromasin without anything at all and still felt so much better so I guess If I will have to suppress estrogen from both HGH and Test additionally I would have to go with even bigger dosages of aromasin which can fuck me up even more

Forgot to add I once went to an endocrinologist and he turned out to be a 5'1" fat bald jew who started cussing at me and my mom first second we started talking about height and kicked us out

 

[Mighty]

I been trying to get xray since 12 I only managed to get 1 finger xray (not even fucking hand) which said nothing, some idiot refugees who worked there told my fingers was almost closed at 18 (they should have been alr closed at that age) but I think they still grew up eventually after and jfl they are the only thing that grows somehow. So do you think provi is enough then if nun happens going with test? As I said I could pin 12.5 EOD aromasin without anything at all and still felt so much better so I guess If I will have to suppress estrogen from both HGH and Test additionally I would have to go with even bigger dosages of aromasin which can fuck me up even more

whats your goal, Dimo? Height growth ? If you wanna go the safe route start with provi, but if you think ur growth plates already closed go with test.

 

[The Evict]

whats your goal, Dimo? Height growth ? If you wanna go the safe route start with provi, but if you think ur growth plates already closed go with test.

I'm going to add 150mg test hcg and provi to my height stack I think that makes it up for both without risking it too much, not sure what to expect at all but my current levels are low anyways so I doubt that would hurt considering the above and I been wanting to try test for ages even though I don't work out since I had this feeling of being low t for a long time even if thats not the case