Test vs Tren, what's better for building a Aesthetic physique ?

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Testosterone vs Trenbolone, what's better for losing fat, while building muscle and having a very hard dry look/ full dry dense looking physique like similar to this?

 

[oxygenbreather]

Well for maximum gain then you would want to take both(duh). Tren is 5 times more potent than testosterone, but I wouldn’t take it because it is one of the most toxic steroids out there, so it better to consider other safer steroid (still toxic btw). Plus the acne from tren would literally ruin your body aesthetic

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Well for maximum gain then you would want to take both(duh). Tren is 5 times more potent than testosterone, but I wouldn’t take it because it is one of the most toxic steroids out there, so it better to consider other safer steroid (still toxic btw). Plus the acne from tren would literally ruin your body aesthetic

Good take, so good old testosterone and masteron is enough ?

 

[oxygenbreather]

Good take, so good old testosterone and masteron is enough ?

You should consider adding anavar and winstrol. And also have a liver supplement and a pct cycle ready

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

You should consider adding anavar and winstrol. And also have a liver supplement and a pct cycle ready

why pct cycle ? wont u lose all ur gains if u go pct ?

 

[MentalistKebab]

13 Nors are unnecessary unless you are competing.

For an ideal aesthetic fake natty body high end of TRT dose is sufficient, and you can always pop var or winstrol whenever you feel like it

 

[Deleted member 66828]

Good take, so good old testosterone and masteron is enough ?

yes, will work 100%

 

[MongolTurk]

both, you shouldn't just run tren without a test base, the inclusion of tren is ideal for a dry aesthetic physique tho, nothing compares to tren in that sense

 

[Realism]

Tren is toxic shit that only clueless retards with no longevity in mind uses.
You should not use tren if you're not a competing bodybuilder ever.
It's highly androgenic and neurotoxic, it's gonna age your face fast.

You really should only use 3 steroids if your goal is to look good and keep it sustainable. That is test, primo and anavar. Primo and anavar increases collagen synthesis, and actually makes your face look better, and they're not very androgenic.

 

[asdvek]

both, you shouldn't just run tren without a test base, the inclusion of tren is ideal for a dry aesthetic physique tho, nothing compares to tren in that sense

You fucking retard, test and tren work against each other. Test increases water retention while tren lowers. You need to run tren on it's own, tren and test shouldn't be used together you dumb faggot. So fed up of these fags saying u need test base for everything

 

[MongolTurk]

Test increases water retention while tren lowers. You need to run tren on it's own, tren and test shouldn't be used together you dumb faggot. So fed up of these fags saying u need test base for everything

only in supraphysiological dosages does test increase water retention significantly. The tren would be suppressive to your natural test production and would crash FSH and LH and so you would need to supplement with exogenous test in order to prevent your e2 from crashing. If you're e2 is at 0, you don't gain muscle.

 

[asdvek]

only in supraphysiological dosages does test increase water retention significantly. The tren would be suppressive to your natural test production and would crash FSH and LH and so you would need to supplement with exogenous test in order to prevent your e2 from crashing. If you're e2 is at 0, you don't gain muscle.

1. tren doesnt lower estrogen
2. no you dont need to supplement exogenous test to prevent e2 from crashing
3. test e increase water retention significantly not only on supraphysiological dosages

like if u dont know shit about roids just stfu, tren and test is the stupidest thing i heard together

not test p tho, only tren and test propionate can be used together, tren and test enanthate is a big no

 

[MongolTurk]

1. tren doesnt lower estrogen

it doesn't aromatize into estrogen enough.

2. no you dont need to supplement exogenous test to prevent e2 from crashing

if you're only using compounds that don't aromatize into estradiol at a high enough rate, and you're natural test production shuts down, you'd be retarded not to add in a replacement dose of test.

3. test e increase water retention significantly not only on supraphysiological dosages

because everybody on trt is bloatmaxxed right? You'd be hard pressed to find somebody on 100-150 mg test per week who had a noticeable increase in water retention off the test alone. Also who said anything about test E? why not just use propionate then? Tren ace is the most widely used ester of tren anyways so why wouldn't you just use a short ester test base like prop at 100-150 per week.

not test p tho, only tren and test propionate can be used together, tren and test enanthate is a big no

nigga is acting like tren and test being used together is outlandish but then says propionate is fine. As if the ester plays a significant enough role for this to matter. You're making the most cucky esoteric argument I've ever seen. it doesn't matter bro. test e and test p are the same hormone. one isn't going to magically put 10 lbs of water under your skin, just a silly argument trying to fraud knowledge

 

[AdIndependent6291]

tren is cow steroid wouldnt play with that

fucks up your brain chemistry and your hormonal system.

If you want to have very bad problems long term take it, but i would stay away from that

even professional bodybuilders that does this for money are scared of taking it so why should you as recreational bodybuilder

 

[dbva]

Testosterone vs Trenbolone, what's better for losing fat, while building muscle and having a very hard dry look/ full dry dense looking physique like similar to this?

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test is best, just stick with test and thank yourself in a few years