Good take, so good old testosterone and masteron is enough ?
You should consider adding anavar and winstrol. And also have a liver supplement and a pct cycle ready
why pct cycle ? wont u lose all ur gains if u go pct ?
yes, will work 100%
You fucking retard, test and tren work against each other. Test increases water retention while tren lowers. You need to run tren on it's own, tren and test shouldn't be used together you dumb faggot. So fed up of these fags saying u need test base for everything
only in supraphysiological dosages does test increase water retention significantly. The tren would be suppressive to your natural test production and would crash FSH and LH and so you would need to supplement with exogenous test in order to prevent your e2 from crashing. If you're e2 is at 0, you don't gain muscle.
1. tren doesnt lower estrogen
it doesn't aromatize into estrogen enough.
if you're only using compounds that don't aromatize into estradiol at a high enough rate, and you're natural test production shuts down, you'd be retarded not to add in a replacement dose of test.
because everybody on trt is bloatmaxxed right? You'd be hard pressed to find somebody on 100-150 mg test per week who had a noticeable increase in water retention off the test alone. Also who said anything about test E? why not just use propionate then? Tren ace is the most widely used ester of tren anyways so why wouldn't you just use a short ester test base like prop at 100-150 per week.
nigga is acting like tren and test being used together is outlandish but then says propionate is fine. As if the ester plays a significant enough role for this to matter. You're making the most cucky esoteric argument I've ever seen. it doesn't matter bro. test e and test p are the same hormone. one isn't going to magically put 10 lbs of water under your skin, just a silly argument trying to fraud knowledge
test is best, just stick with test and thank yourself in a few years
