test

[iblamegonialangle45]

i just want to mog, when i research certain peptides or steroids like test it all says that certain peptides will fuck you up at 14 but clavicular took it at my age and now he’s cl does it really matter, should i hop on trt?

 

[mltn2mtn]

i just want to mog, when i research certain peptides or steroids like test it all says that certain peptides will fuck you up at 14 but clavicular took it at my age and now he’s cl does it really matter, should i hop on trt?

No bro you must be retarded even clav admits this wasn't smart.

 

[voidpursuit]

no bro, just goon and be a ltn forever. YES OBVIOUSLY HOP ON TRT

 

[iblamegonialangle45]

lots of mixed answers here on

 

[voidpursuit]

i'm kidding btw. don't hop on trt at 14.

 

[BR32]

Alr lil bro here's the deal

If you hop on test now you won't have a natural puberty cause you won't have the natural pulsatile response from your testes.

We don't have any long term research on non medically necessary trt in adolescent males.

That said you could potentially masculinize yourself a lot.

If you are going to hop on learn some pharmacology and be smart.

 

[BR32]

Alr lil bro here's the deal

If you hop on test now you won't have a natural puberty cause you won't have the natural pulsatile response from your testes.

We don't have any long term research on non medically necessary trt in adolescent males.

That said you could potentially masculinize yourself a lot.

If you are going to hop on learn some pharmacology and be smart.

Also taking an AI during puberty could be bad cause you need estrogen for puberty unless you want to have shit development and no sex drive.

But also E2 closes your growth plates.

See the problem buddy?

 

[mltn2mtn]

lots of mixed answers here on

You're better off not taking trt

 

[BR32]

You're better off not taking trt

Also taking an AI during puberty could be bad cause you need estrogen for puberty unless you want to have shit development and no sex drive.

But also E2 closes your growth plates.

See the problem buddy?

TLDR

Masculinization ≠ optimal development

 

[RetaRetaReta]

i just want to mog, when i research certain peptides or steroids like test it all says that certain peptides will fuck you up at 14 but clavicular took it at my age and now he’s cl does it really matter, should i hop on trt?

Do whatever it takes to ascend boyo.

 

[benal22]

TLDR

Masculinization ≠ optimal development

If there is an optimal time to take it, when would it be?

 

[BR32]

If there is an optimal time to take it, when would it be?

I hopped on gear at 18 I think you could do 17 tho I stopped growing kinda early.

 

[benal22]

And that's for test and AI but what about HGH and peps? Should I do those next year and how many iu

 

[AryanSchizo]

nigger, at your age just sleep and your test should be high .

 

[maskedarab]

I hopped on gear at 18 I think you could do 17 tho I stopped growing kinda early.

What was your experience with testosterone coming from a curious 17 year old.

Dosage?
Side Effects?
Precautions Taken?
Did you take frequent bloodwork?
Cycle-Time?
Did you Inject daily?

Also what were ur muscle gains looking like?
did you experience hair loss?
Acne?
Worse skin?

--

I have been on accutane for 3 months at 30mg. I am 110 lbs at 5'9-5'10. I am not extremely skinny though, I would like to say my physique is mostly muscle. I look 125+ lbs but at 110 my energy is at a all time low. I am also speculating I have low test ->

no drive
no risk-factor can't do things peers can do
bad confidence
can't wake up and get out of bed
no morning wood
no motivation

 

[BR32]

What was your experience with testosterone coming from a curious 17 year old.

Dosage?
Side Effects?
Precautions Taken?
Did you take frequent bloodwork?
Cycle-Time?
Did you Inject daily?

Also what were ur muscle gains looking like?
did you experience hair loss?
Acne?
Worse skin?

--

I have been on accutane for 3 months at 30mg. I am 110 lbs at 5'9-5'10. I am not extremely skinny though, I would like to say my physique is mostly muscle. I look 125+ lbs but at 110 my energy is at a all time low. I am also speculating I have low test ->

no drive
no risk-factor can't do things peers can do
bad confidence
can't wake up and get out of bed
no morning wood
no motivation

I hopped on gear early because I had already been lifting well for about 2 years. I wasn’t at my natty potentials but I was pretty close and I have pretty good genetics. I’m of the mindset that most people reach their actual natty limit (or get pretty close to it) within 2-3 years of consistent lifting with proper training, nutrition, and sleep.

I’m currently on 300mg of test enanthate/week. I pin daily with an insulin pin which is ideal for maintain steady blood serum concentration and eliminating peaks which promote aromatization.

As far as ancillaries go I have aromasin and raloxifene on hand to control estrogenic sides but I haven’t needed them.

I’m taking telimisartan for blood pressure (the main reason people die on gear is not controlling their blood pressure.)

CoQ10 for heart and mitochondrial protection.

Accutane which I’m prescribed by my doctor for actual acne but it also helps to deal with any acne promoted by test use.

Retatrutide to stay lean and insulin sensitive and it also helps to lower my liver enzymes and promote mitochondrial health.

I’m also taking fish oil/omega 3s which helps balance your omega 6/3 ratio and helps lipids which get messed up on gear.

I’m also taking 0.5mg dutasteride to prevent hair loss.

As far as non gear related peptides go I take GHK Cu subq daily and PT 141 when I hook up with girls lol.

I took comprehensive bloodwork before I got on test and I’m planning to take bloodwork every 6 weeks for the duration of my 20 week cycle. Bloodwork is extremely important for maintaining long term health. However it’s not the only measure you should take. If you have a history of heart issues in your family I would suggest getting an echocardiogram before hopping on.

Here is a link to the bloodwork that I get https://www.privatemdlabs.com/build...re&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=product_share

Truth be told I’ve only been on gear for a few weeks but so far I’ve noticed increased, strength, increased libido, and I’m looking more full. I haven’t experienced any negative side effects yet.

Here’s what I’m gonna say about your specific situation. You should get bloodwork done and then assess. From a physique standpoint you are still pretty small. I went from about 115-165 lean naturally in about 2 years and you can as well. The thing with hopping on gear is that the stimulus is so much higher than being natural and you don’t want to use gear to get your newbie gains because newbie gains are already like being on gear. My suggestion would be to optimize everything else in your life, train naturally, see how your physique looks and then consider gear.

I suggest watching this video where Dodi explains what I’m saying in more detail.

As for the suspected low test there’s no way to know without bloodwork so get that done asap.

Heres what you should know. Getting on testosterone should be a lifelong commitment. You aren’t going to want to get off of TRT and if you ever decide to do bigger cycles (I probably will too) you likely wont be able to come off and PCT back to baseline. I don’t plan on coming off of testosterone ever but I won’t be running huge cycles ever and I’m planning to be on a TRT level dose by the time I’m 30 as you can maintain a ton of mass even at low doses of test. So make sure this is a decision you are confident in making.

Another important detail, do you have good genetics? If you don’t have good insertions, good frame, wide clavicles, etc you shouldn’t get on gear. I only got on gear because I have the capacity for a sick cunt physique which should be your goal.

I’ve also linked my guide to managing estrogen on cycle which goes into more detail about E2 management than I went into here. https://looksmax.org/threads/managi...-high-iq-roiders-gtfih.1776624/#post-25072591

Lastly if you do decide you want to get on gear spend at minimum a month researching and learning about how anabolic steroids work and learning human physiology and biochemistry. Don’t do this on .org. One of the best resources for anything gear related on the whole internet is the YouTube channel More Plates Mores Dates.

If you decide you want to hop on send me a PM and I can share my sources.

Any more questions?

 

[maskedarab]

Thanks, I'll PM u later appreciate it.

 

[BR32]

Thanks, I'll PM u later appreciate it.

For sure lmk if you have any more questions

 

[kdbgrey17]

w

I hopped on gear early because I had already been lifting well for about 2 years. I wasn’t at my natty potentials but I was pretty close and I have pretty good genetics. I’m of the mindset that most people reach their actual natty limit (or get pretty close to it) within 2-3 years of consistent lifting with proper training, nutrition, and sleep.

I’m currently on 300mg of test enanthate/week. I pin daily with an insulin pin which is ideal for maintain steady blood serum concentration and eliminating peaks which promote aromatization.

As far as ancillaries go I have aromasin and raloxifene on hand to control estrogenic sides but I haven’t needed them.

I’m taking telimisartan for blood pressure (the main reason people die on gear is not controlling their blood pressure.)

CoQ10 for heart and mitochondrial protection.

Accutane which I’m prescribed by my doctor for actual acne but it also helps to deal with any acne promoted by test use.

Retatrutide to stay lean and insulin sensitive and it also helps to lower my liver enzymes and promote mitochondrial health.

I’m also taking fish oil/omega 3s which helps balance your omega 6/3 ratio and helps lipids which get messed up on gear.

I’m also taking 0.5mg dutasteride to prevent hair loss.

As far as non gear related peptides go I take GHK Cu subq daily and PT 141 when I hook up with girls lol.

I took comprehensive bloodwork before I got on test and I’m planning to take bloodwork every 6 weeks for the duration of my 20 week cycle. Bloodwork is extremely important for maintaining long term health. However it’s not the only measure you should take. If you have a history of heart issues in your family I would suggest getting an echocardiogram before hopping on.

Here is a link to the bloodwork that I get https://www.privatemdlabs.com/build...re&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=product_share

Truth be told I’ve only been on gear for a few weeks but so far I’ve noticed increased, strength, increased libido, and I’m looking more full. I haven’t experienced any negative side effects yet.

Here’s what I’m gonna say about your specific situation. You should get bloodwork done and then assess. From a physique standpoint you are still pretty small. I went from about 115-165 lean naturally in about 2 years and you can as well. The thing with hopping on gear is that the stimulus is so much higher than being natural and you don’t want to use gear to get your newbie gains because newbie gains are already like being on gear. My suggestion would be to optimize everything else in your life, train naturally, see how your physique looks and then consider gear.

I suggest watching this video where Dodi explains what I’m saying in more detail.

As for the suspected low test there’s no way to know without bloodwork so get that done asap.

Heres what you should know. Getting on testosterone should be a lifelong commitment. You aren’t going to want to get off of TRT and if you ever decide to do bigger cycles (I probably will too) you likely wont be able to come off and PCT back to baseline. I don’t plan on coming off of testosterone ever but I won’t be running huge cycles ever and I’m planning to be on a TRT level dose by the time I’m 30 as you can maintain a ton of mass even at low doses of test. So make sure this is a decision you are confident in making.

Another important detail, do you have good genetics? If you don’t have good insertions, good frame, wide clavicles, etc you shouldn’t get on gear. I only got on gear because I have the capacity for a sick cunt physique which should be your goal.

I’ve also linked my guide to managing estrogen on cycle which goes into more detail about E2 management than I went into here. https://looksmax.org/threads/managi...-high-iq-roiders-gtfih.1776624/#post-25072591

Lastly if you do decide you want to get on gear spend at minimum a month researching and learning about how anabolic steroids work and learning human physiology and biochemistry. Don’t do this on .org. One of the best resources for anything gear related on the whole internet is the YouTube channel More Plates Mores Dates.

If you decide you want to hop on send me a PM and I can share my sources.

Any more questions?

hey bro where did you pin with an insulin syringe, is it safe to pin subq with test e or not because i’m still relatively skinny so don’t know if they will effect IM pins

 

[BR32]

w

hey bro where did you pin with an insulin syringe, is it safe to pin subq with test e or not because i’m still relatively skinny so don’t know if they will effect IM pins

Hey man, if you're skinny thats fine. I would still suggest pinning IM but you can do shallow IM with an insulin pin.

Do you have a history of lifting?

 

[kdbgrey17]

Hey man, if you're skinny thats fine. I would still suggest pinning IM but you can do shallow IM with an insulin pin.

Do you have a history of lifting?

not a particularly long one ik ur meant to hop on when u get close to ur natural limit but i think why not just speed it up.

The other day i pinned my cjc too shallow and i got some weird lump and my whole face started itching like crazy will that not happen if i pin too shallow

 

[BR32]

not a particularly long one ik ur meant to hop on when u get close to ur natural limit but i think why not just speed it up.

The other day i pinned my cjc too shallow and i got some weird lump and my whole face started itching like crazy will that not happen if i pin too shallow

Won't happen if you don't pin too shallow

You pinned in a layer of skin not fat

 

[kdbgrey17]

Won't happen if you don't pin too shallow

You pinned in a layer of skin not fat

where do u advise i pin

 

[BR32]

Pin subq

I do glutes, and like the side of my torso mainly cause I’m pretty lean.

Can also do bellow belly button

 

[Greyascension]

Hey man, if you're skinny thats fine. I would still suggest pinning IM but you can do shallow IM with an insulin pin.

Do you have a history of lifting?

Only shallow IM in the glutes, stomach subq is retarded, also subq test in any way will probably lump, or have a higher chance of lumping, the deeper the needle the better

 

[BR32]

Only shallow IM in the glutes, stomach subq is retarded, also subq test in any way will probably lump, or have a higher chance of lumping, the deeper the needle the better

Wait I’m sped I thought bro was talking about peptides.


Shallow IM is best

Derek got us right

 

[Greyascension]

Wait I’m sped I thought bro was talking about peptides.


Shallow IM is best

Derek got us right

Derek put me on the Shallow IM for the TRT injections.
Rn I'm on cycle so I'm using the harpoons

 

[BR32]

Derek put me on the Shallow IM for the TRT injections.
Rn I'm on cycle so I'm using the harpoons
View attachment 4474562

How much oil are you pinning?

 

[Greyascension]

How much oil are you pinning?

3CCs weekly

 

[Deleted member 304317]

i just want to mog, when i research certain peptides or steroids like test it all says that certain peptides will fuck you up at 14 but clavicular took it at my age and now he’s cl does it really matter, should i hop on trt?

At 14–15 years old:

No peptides, HGH, or TRT is safe.
Your body is still growing; messing with hormones now can permanently stunt growth, shrink testicles, and wreck fertility.
Any “success stories” on forums are not proof, they’re anecdotal and dangerous.

Instead of drugs, the things that actually give long-term results for teens:

Sleep: 8–9 hours, consistent schedule
Nutrition: enough calories, protein, vitamins
Exercise: weight training, jump rope, sports
Discipline & stress management: meditation, avoiding filth/porn
Patience: your hormones are naturally optimal right now

This is how you mog naturally stronger jaw, better body, higher T without risking your future.

Don’t waste your money. Don’t waste your future. Don’t waste your time on some guy on TikTok that says do peptides.

Looks are another aspect of life. there are more importent things like future, studies, faith, dicipline, skills… and muchhhhhh more looks are just one of them.

Love yourself twin.

 

[BR32]

3CCs weekly

What sites to you pin? Delts and glutes?

 

[BR32]

3CCs weekly

Also what’s your stack

 

[Greyascension]

What sites to you pin? Delts and glutes?

I pin glutes and lats

 

[Greyascension]

Also what’s your stack

500 test
300 EQ
8ius HGH

 

[Ch1gga]

i just want to mog, when i research certain peptides or steroids like test it all says that certain peptides will fuck you up at 14 but clavicular took it at my age and now he’s cl does it really matter, should i hop on trt?

 

[BR32]

Love to see the EQ, everyone here abuses 19 nors and dht derivatives cause they aren’t thinking about long term tissue actual.

I’m planning to run 500 test 400 eq for
my next cycle

 

[BR32]

Love to see the EQ, everyone here abuses 19 nors and dht derivatives cause they aren’t thinking about long term tissue actual.

I’m planning to run 500 test 400 eq for
my next cycle

@Greyascension

 

[Greyascension]

@Greyascension

hell yeah bhai, mog tier for estrogen management as well as growing in a more safe manner than slamming heavy androgens like Tren(Not that you SHOULDN'T use tren but it's toxic and should be proceeded with caution), idk if I'll have to donate blood but I'm gonna get some bloodwork done in about 4-5 weeks

 

[BR32]

hell yeah bhai, mog tier for estrogen management as well as growing in a more safe manner than slamming heavy androgens like Tren(Not that you SHOULDN'T use tren but it's toxic and should be proceeded with caution), idk if I'll have to donate blood but I'm gonna get some bloodwork done in about 4-5 weeks

Drink a ton of water, helps control hematocrit.

Not only is EQ safer but you actually retain the tissue when you go down to TRT eventually.

People are just lazy and tren is so hyped up that they just take the bait.

If you want it dry out just take var for 5 weeks you don’t need to wreck all your organs constantly and go bald.

 

[profilz]

I hopped on gear at 18 I think you could do 17 tho I stopped growing kinda early.

I’m about to turn 18 and planning on running my first cycle but can’t decide whether I should pct after my first cycle or if I should cruise after, which would probably force me to be on trt my whole life, which is what I’m hesitant about

 

[BR32]

I’m about to turn 18 and planning on running my first cycle but can’t decide whether I should pct after my first cycle or if I should cruise after, which would probably force me to be on trt my whole life, which is what I’m hesitant about

You should cruise

You can be extremely healthy on trt no problem.

DM me I’ll share my guides

 

[kdbgrey17]

Derek put me on the Shallow IM for the TRT injections.
Rn I'm on cycle so I'm using the harpoons
View attachment 4474562

yo bro is there any other way to pin test because i’m thinking of it but that would genuinely go through my body or hit straight bone

 

[Greyascension]

yo bro is there any other way to pin test because i’m thinking of it but that would genuinely go through my body or hit straight bone

It's just a 1inch needle, alternative you can use a 27-29g half an inch needle in your glutes which would be shallow IM and is painless as fuck, so smooth

 

[kdbgrey17]

It's just a 1inch needle, alternative you can use a 27-29g half an inch needle in your glutes which would be shallow IM and is painless as fuck, so smooth

thanks man

 

[kdbgrey17]

I hopped on gear early because I had already been lifting well for about 2 years. I wasn’t at my natty potentials but I was pretty close and I have pretty good genetics. I’m of the mindset that most people reach their actual natty limit (or get pretty close to it) within 2-3 years of consistent lifting with proper training, nutrition, and sleep.

I’m currently on 300mg of test enanthate/week. I pin daily with an insulin pin which is ideal for maintain steady blood serum concentration and eliminating peaks which promote aromatization.

As far as ancillaries go I have aromasin and raloxifene on hand to control estrogenic sides but I haven’t needed them.

I’m taking telimisartan for blood pressure (the main reason people die on gear is not controlling their blood pressure.)

CoQ10 for heart and mitochondrial protection.

Accutane which I’m prescribed by my doctor for actual acne but it also helps to deal with any acne promoted by test use.

Retatrutide to stay lean and insulin sensitive and it also helps to lower my liver enzymes and promote mitochondrial health.

I’m also taking fish oil/omega 3s which helps balance your omega 6/3 ratio and helps lipids which get messed up on gear.

I’m also taking 0.5mg dutasteride to prevent hair loss.

As far as non gear related peptides go I take GHK Cu subq daily and PT 141 when I hook up with girls lol.

I took comprehensive bloodwork before I got on test and I’m planning to take bloodwork every 6 weeks for the duration of my 20 week cycle. Bloodwork is extremely important for maintaining long term health. However it’s not the only measure you should take. If you have a history of heart issues in your family I would suggest getting an echocardiogram before hopping on.

Here is a link to the bloodwork that I get https://www.privatemdlabs.com/build...re&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=product_share

Truth be told I’ve only been on gear for a few weeks but so far I’ve noticed increased, strength, increased libido, and I’m looking more full. I haven’t experienced any negative side effects yet.

Here’s what I’m gonna say about your specific situation. You should get bloodwork done and then assess. From a physique standpoint you are still pretty small. I went from about 115-165 lean naturally in about 2 years and you can as well. The thing with hopping on gear is that the stimulus is so much higher than being natural and you don’t want to use gear to get your newbie gains because newbie gains are already like being on gear. My suggestion would be to optimize everything else in your life, train naturally, see how your physique looks and then consider gear.

I suggest watching this video where Dodi explains what I’m saying in more detail.

As for the suspected low test there’s no way to know without bloodwork so get that done asap.

Heres what you should know. Getting on testosterone should be a lifelong commitment. You aren’t going to want to get off of TRT and if you ever decide to do bigger cycles (I probably will too) you likely wont be able to come off and PCT back to baseline. I don’t plan on coming off of testosterone ever but I won’t be running huge cycles ever and I’m planning to be on a TRT level dose by the time I’m 30 as you can maintain a ton of mass even at low doses of test. So make sure this is a decision you are confident in making.

Another important detail, do you have good genetics? If you don’t have good insertions, good frame, wide clavicles, etc you shouldn’t get on gear. I only got on gear because I have the capacity for a sick cunt physique which should be your goal.

I’ve also linked my guide to managing estrogen on cycle which goes into more detail about E2 management than I went into here. https://looksmax.org/threads/managi...-high-iq-roiders-gtfih.1776624/#post-25072591

Lastly if you do decide you want to get on gear spend at minimum a month researching and learning about how anabolic steroids work and learning human physiology and biochemistry. Don’t do this on .org. One of the best resources for anything gear related on the whole internet is the YouTube channel More Plates Mores Dates.

If you decide you want to hop on send me a PM and I can share my sources.

Any more questions?

Where do u pin with the insulin syringe and what gauge and length of needle is it

 

[BR32]

Where do u pin with the insulin syringe and what gauge and length of needle is it

I pin glutes and delts

1 inch 27g