Testosterone cycle at 19 = Bigger Forever?

[Deleted member 3328]

I'm heavily tempted to do a single testosterone enanthate cycle (500mg/week, 12-15 weeks) this summer.

Test being is the most researched AAS and a PED, side effects are well known. I honestly don't see any reason to use SARMs over it unless someone is scared of needles.

Could I potentially keep around 80% of my gains gained on the cycle without going on another steroid cycle until I'm older (21+)? @KingOfRome

After the cycle I would obviously do a proper PCT, train with the same intensity, eat the same and possibly supplement with MK-677 as well.

 

[CrazyFitLover]

you cant keep gains when you come off pct is bullshit. 80%? more like 10%, dude u just need decent body not super big, keep in mind also maintining lots of gains is huge headache

 

[THEMOGEE]

BUMP

BEEN DEBATING THIS AT 200MG A WEEK

 

[CurryCel]

I'm heavily tempted to do a single testosterone enanthate cycle (500mg/week, 12-15 weeks) this summer.

Test being is the most researched AAS and a PED, side effects are well known. I honestly don't see any reason to use SARMs over it unless someone is scared of needles.

Could I potentially keep around 80% of my gains gained on the cycle without going on another steroid cycle until I'm older (21+)? @KingOfRome

After the cycle I would obviously do a proper PCT, train with the same intensity, eat the same and possibly supplement with MK-677 as well.

Muscle gain is temporary. You will experience significant muscle loss after the cycle. However if u grow taller / wider its permanent

 

[THEMOGEE]

you cant keep gains when you come off pct is bullshit. 80%? more like 10%, dude u just need decent body not super big, keep in mind also maintining lots of gains is huge headache

COULD PERMANENTLY THICKEN BONES, I.E THICKEN FRAME. AS BONES AREN'T FULLY FORMED TILL 21

 

[Deleted member 3328]

Muscle gain is temporary. You will experience significant muscle loss after the cycle. However if u grow taller / wider its permanent

It's not like I'm at my genetic limit

 

[Deleted member 5927]

as steroid use becomes more popular, you will have to get bigger and bigger just to look "muscular" and eventually in the year 2040 kids will be eating 15 meals a day and hitting the gym twice a day just to look "big".

This was considered "big" before. He was literally Superman. By today's standards he's small.

 

[CurryCel]

It's not like I'm at my genetic limit

jfl 6months on cycle is like 3 years natty lifting. Wouldnt everyone be going on steroids if you will be able to keep most of the gains?

 

[CrazyFitLover]

if you have enough money to support roids, then why not save up for bimax and other surgeris wihle working out as natty?

 

[Deleted member 3328]

jfl 6months on cycle is like 3 years natty lifting. Wouldnt everyone be going on steroids if you will be able to keep most of the gains?

being scared of the side effects?

you cant keep gains when you come off pct is bullshit. 80%? more like 10%, dude u just need decent body not super big, keep in mind also maintining lots of gains is huge headache

10%? JFL, no way

 

[Bruh567]

being scared of the side effects?

10%? JFL, no way

He is really anti roid btw he thinks T has absolutely no influence on bones and diamorphism

 

[CurryCel]

being scared of the side effects?

if you start cycling for muscles, you have to cycle for the rest of your lifeeee to maintain

 

[Deleted member 3328]

He is really anti roid btw he thinks T has absolutely no influence on bones and diamorphism

Yeah, I've realized that

if you have enough money to support roids, then why not save up for bimax and other surgeris wihle working out as natty?

I don't need it

 

[CrazyFitLover]

being scared of the side effects?

10%? JFL, no way

you are right as always, okey that it just hope on roids, consecuenses will present of course, and you will have to experience them, also there is no going back

 

[Deleted member 3328]

you are right as always, okey that it just hope on roids, consecuenses will present of course, and you will have to experience them, also there is no going back

if you start cycling for muscles, you have to cycle for the rest of your lifeeee to maintain

JFL that's if you beyond your genetic limit

If you aren't at your genetic limit you can keep most of your gains

 

[CrazyFitLover]

He is really anti roid btw he thinks T has absolutely no influence on bones and diamorphism

you misinterpreted my opinions, i think t has low effect on facial bones, not zero

 

[Bruh567]

you are right as always, okey that it just hope on roids, consecuenses will present of course, and you will have to experience them, also there is no going back

USE vs ABUSE

you misinterpreted my opinions, i think t has low effect on facial bones, not zero

still very wrong

 

[Chad69]

Same question with me
Just change 19 with 15

 

[Deleted member 3328]

Same question with me
Just change 19 with 15

 

[Deleted member 3635]

you cant keep gains when you come off pct is bullshit. 80%? more like 10%, dude u just need decent body not super big, keep in mind also maintining lots of gains is huge headache

LMFAO at this JFL how can you be this uneducated you can keep most your grains just PCT correctly and take mk677 to prevent any muscle wastage during pct personally i used it on cycle as well

 

[Chad69]

I watch this video every single day tbh
How about low dosages?
He seems fine.He still has his hair despite few pimples

 

[Deleted member 3328]

I watch this video every single day tbh
How about low dosages?
He seems fine.He still has his hair despite few pimples

I wouldn't do steroids at 15, they will stunt your height growth

LMFAO at this JFL how can you be this uneducated you can keep most your grains just PCT correctly and take mk677 to prevent any muscle wastage during pct personally i used it on cycle as well

indeed

 

[CrazyFitLover]

LMFAO at this JFL how can you be this uneducated you can keep most your grains just PCT correctly and take mk677 to prevent any muscle wastage during pct personally i used it on cycle as well
if i dont know that staff then i dont know anything, i been training for more than 3years and have been around lots of bodybuilders and couches and just gymmaxxers, everyone who had touch with roids knows that pct is biggest bullshit that there is. meanwhile you just have theories and zero experience i think

 

[Chad69]

I wouldn't do steroids at 15, they will stunt your height growth

Yeah you are right

 

[Deleted member 3328]

@jefferson thoughts?

 

[Bewusst]

Dumbness should be prosecuted tbh

 

[Deleted member 3328]

Dumbness should be prosecuted tbh

Looks like I'm a dumb med student

 

[mattzdeb]

Why would you fuck up your endocrine System as it is still developing just to look “big”. It isn’t even that hard to gain muscle and obviously if you get off test you’ll lose the muscle but muscle memory will allow you to get to that point again.

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Yeah you are right

nah not if u take estrogen blockers it could actually increase ur dimorphism and height since test increases IGF
I am literally almost a personal trainer/national powerlifter that has done a cycle b4 gtfo with this retarded info i bet ur one of those people that thinks steroids make ur dick smaller

 

[CrazyFitLover]

nah not if u take estrogen blockers it could actually increase ur dimorphism and height since test increases IGF

I am literally almost a personal trainer/national powerlifter that has done a cycle b4 gtfo with this retarded info i bet ur one of those people that thinks steroids make ur dick smaller

no proof no care

 

[Chad69]

nah not if u take estrogen blockers it could actually increase ur dimorphism and height since test increases IGF

I am literally almost a personal trainer/national powerlifter that has done a cycle b4 gtfo with this retarded info i bet ur one of those people that thinks steroids make ur dick smaller

JFL Iam not
Iam 15yo and I have spent countless hours researching every single peptide,sarm and steroid
I know a lot about PCT and everything
I know all side effects
I know everything
Iam just asking people from here should I use it because they are the most brutal and honest ones

 

[CrazyFitLover]

JFL Iam not
Iam 15yo and I have spent countless hours researching every single peptide,sarm and steroid
I know a lot about PCT and everything
I know all side effects
I know everything
Iam just asking people from here should I use it because they are the most brutal and honest ones

take in mind that most of this online pct info is bullshit, you have to learn it from peoples actual experiences

 

[Deleted member 3635]

JFL Iam not
Iam 15yo and I have spent countless hours researching every single peptide,sarm and steroid
I know a lot about PCT and everything
I know all side effects
I know everything
Iam just asking people from here should I use it because they are the most brutal and honest ones

I would say not yet get on DHT cream though and growth hormone peptides once ur 18 jump on a cycle and plan it correctly (managing estrogen etc) pct correctly (hcg+ nolva + clomiphene) but for now just those 2 should suffice

 

[Chad69]

I would say not yet get on DHT cream though and growth hormone peptides once ur 18 jump on a cycle and plan it correctly (managing estrogen etc) pct correctly (hcg+ nolva + clomiphene) but for now just those 2 should suffice

Yeah this is my plan:
CJC 1295 DAC,Hexarelin,GHRP-2,Mk-667,SAM-e,Some inhibitors and if I got any money left I will buy Ostarine
A lot of people agree with my stack while others are laughing at it

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Yeah this is my plan:
CJC 1295 DAC,Hexarelin,GHRP-2,Mk-667,SAM-e,Some inhibitors and if I got any money left I will buy Ostarine
A lot of people agree with my stack while others are laughing at it

replace ostarine with DHT for dimorphism , you can build muscle whenever you want really but dimorphism starts slowing down

 

[Chad69]

replace ostarine with DHT for dimorphism , you can build muscle whenever you want really but dimorphism starts slowing down

What if Iam prone to balding?

 

[Bruh567]

What if Iam prone to balding?

You will speed up the inevitable

 

[Deleted member 3635]

What if Iam prone to balding?

topical androgen

 

[jefferson]

you cant keep gains when you come off pct is bullshit. 80%? more like 10%, dude u just need decent body not super big, keep in mind also maintining lots of gains is huge headache

you can if below natural limit

 

[CrazyFitLover]

you can if below natural limit

you cant, natural limit will be way lower because of supression, and if you were able anyways than whats the point, you would reach genetic limit without roids anyways

 

[Bruh567]

you cant, natural limit will be way lower because of supression, and if you were able anyways than whats the point, you would reach genetic limit without roids anyways

Because you can get the gain way faster genius

 

[CrazyFitLover]

Because you can get the gain way faster genius

and you would risk side effects and supression because you cant wait year or two for gains? JFL

Because you can get the gain way faster genius

also joints are not getting strong as fast as muscles so there is addtional risk in that, shitty argument, lets be honest

 

[Bruh567]

and you would risk side effects and supression because you cant wait year or two for gains? JFL

also joints are not getting strong as fast as muscles so there is addtional risk in that, shitty argument, lets be honest

Test increase mass density

plus you don’t need super joints for muscle if anything your muscles are getting bigger to support the body jfl


It’s realistically 3 years and the roided will be leaner and can cheat if wanting to instead of autisiclly count macros

 

[Robocok]

nah not if u take estrogen blockers it could actually increase ur dimorphism and height since test increases IGF

I am literally almost a personal trainer/national powerlifter that has done a cycle b4 gtfo with this retarded info i bet ur one of those people that thinks steroids make ur dick smaller

Tren can make your dick smaller and being a personal trainer doesn't mean much. No offense bro

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Tren can make your dick smaller and being a personal trainer doesn't mean much. No offense bro

none taken only on cycle if u don't control ur prolactin since that's what tren latches on to those receptors if u have caber on hand tren + that will make ur sex drive through the roof don't recommend it though u might get horny enough to fuck a dude

 

[Robocok]

none taken only on cycle if u don't control ur prolactin since that's what tren latches on to those receptors if u have caber on hand tren + that will make ur sex drive through the roof don't recommend it though u might get horny enough to fuck a dude

Ya, I heard you need caber. I'm still pretty horny

 

[6ft4]

I suggest you do it

 

[Deleted member 2506]

I have endocrinologist connect for safe top tier pharma grade test and hgh and im getting bloodtests ill be insane

 

[Michael]

I did this at 20
honestly go for it if you want, I did this becouse I just wanted how it feels to be on T. It's fucking insane tbh (I was on caber also, felt like a god).
btw. why you don't want to go for sarms?

 

[Deleted member 3328]

I did this at 20
honestly go for it if you want, I did this becouse I just wanted how it feels to be on T. It's fucking insane tbh (I was on caber also, felt like a god).
btw. why you don't want to go for sarms?

I've already done sarms

How many gains did you keep?