That glorious day when god kicked the Mohammedens out of Iberia

[yussimania]

okay then Arabs have no right to complain about colonialism and put themselves in the same category with black brothers


exactly my point, it was a Spanish colony back then

well that means we shared the same oppressor but no, you glorify their colonialism and what they did to us during the slavery

you better call them out and demand reparations for all the ex-Ottoman millets we all shared the same oppressor we need to unite against neo-Ottomanist Erdogan as well

then you have no moral right to complain if DA JOOZ want to return their property back and build THE THIRD TEMPLE... now you see

"Arab genes"

I thought Islam WAS NOT Arab ethnoreligion, I thought it was universal? you munafiq

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA no, Albanians are turning to Christianity nowdays

Bosnians love all "Islamic brothers" until you actually move there

they're racist asf even to us, their Christian neighbours, they call you names and beat Arab immigrants

I'm not sitting here crying saying Israel needs to leave because you won't and why would you listen when your nation controls the USA and most of the world; they took it successfully and that's life and how it's been throughout history, However know that there will be a day when it returns back into the hands of the Muslims again - we've lost control of it in the past for longer than the state of Israel has existed.

 

[hopecel]

tf you talking about
islam isnt an ethno religion (unlike some other religions cough cough jews cough)

it really is

if you look at the genetic makeup of those on iberia, the ethnic dna is arabic

yes but there wasn't a big influence on their DNA (even if was, why do you care?)

 

[yussimania]

it really is

yes but there wasn't a big influence on their DNA (even if was, why do you care?)

explain how Islam is an ethnoreligion?

 

[KeepCopingLads]

it really is

fewer than 15% of muslims worldwide are arab
you fucking idiot

 

[hopecel]

I'm not sitting here crying saying Israel needs to leave because you won't and why would you listen when your nation controls the USA and most of the world; they took it successfully and that's life and how it's been throughout history, However know that there will be a day when it returns back into the hands of the Muslims again - we've lost control of it in the past for longer than the state of Israel has existed.

do I need to remind you that the Holy Land originally belongs to Jews and not Arabs? even in Al-Qur'an, Israel is mentioned over 40 times, "Palestine" - not even once, and yes, Allah assigned that land to the Children of Israel - not Arabs

and let me remind you, Muslim Arabs are allowed to live in Israel and freely pray in Al-Aqsa and elsewhere but Jews aren't allowed to live in Arab countries

@Copercel @kazama @Jewgymmaxx

 

[Panzram]

Ruiz - “There was no Allah for the Muslim, there was no Mohammed there was no Ummah there was only blood, death and CHRISTS WARRIORS RIDING WITH ARMIES TO DISH OUT DIVINE JUDGEMENT ON THE HEATHEN”
@Panzram @Latinolooksmaxxer @Swarthy Knight @johncel27 @KeepCopingLads

@lastredeemer get fucked

I respect the spaniards for this so much, they fought like rabid beasts against the islamic plague.

 

[yussimania]

do I need to remind you that the Holy Land originally belongs to Jews and not Arabs? even in Al-Qur'an, Israel is mentioned over 40 times, "Palestine" - not even once, and yes, Allah assigned that land to the Children of Israel - not Arabs

and let me remind you, Muslim Arabs are allowed to live in Israel and freely pray in Al-Aqsa and elsewhere but Jews aren't allowed to live in Arab countries

@Copercel @kazama @Jewgymmaxx

Muslim Arabs? u mean just muslims there are Indonesian muslims, Mumbai muslims, Bosnian muslims, Malay muslims, Central Asian muslims, Turk muslims, White muslims, heck even ethnically jewish muslims

Islam isn't an ETHNOreligion like Judaism is - any race can become one

 

[hopecel]

explain how Islam is an ethnoreligion?

simply - it's Arabocentric and political Islam Arabises non-Arab Muslim nations

fewer than 15% of muslims worldwide are arab
you fucking idiot

that proves what exactly? you literally Arabised them, they use your names, your clothes, imitate you - both by behaviour and mentality, many of them even wanna replicate your original Caliphate etc.. not to mention that everything in Islam is in Arabic, simply Islam is an Arabocentric religion, that's it

 

[hopecel]

Muslim Arabs? u mean just muslims there are Indonesian muslims, Mumbai muslims, Bosnian muslims, Malay muslims, Central Asian muslims, Turk muslims, White muslims, heck even ethnically jewish muslims

no? most Israeli Muslims are Palestinians and Bedouins - ARABS

Islam isn't an ETHNOreligion like Judaism is - any race can become one

Judaism is an ethnoreligion but Jews aren't a monoracial ethnicity as you know

 

[yussimania]

simply - it's Arabocentric and political Islam Arabises non-Arab Muslim nations

that proves what exactly? you literally Arabised them, they use your names, your clothes, imitate you - both by behaviour and mentality, many of them even wanna replicate your original Caliphate etc.. not to mention that everything in Islam is in Arabic, simply Islam is an Arabocentric religion, that's it

God chose Arabic as the language for Islam, no other language comes close in poetry and eloquence; unfortunately not every muslim knows Arabic which is a shame but it's a testament to the Quran that no other book comes close to it in it's word play, narrative and scientific knowledge that all works in tandem whilst rhyming

 

[KeepCopingLads]

that proves what exactly? you literally Arabised them, they use your names, your clothes, imitate you - both by behaviour and mentality, many of them even wanna replicate your original Caliphate etc.. not to mention that everything in Islam is in Arabic, simply Islam is an Arabocentric religion, that's it

stupid nigga alert
tell me you know nothing of islam without telling me you dont know anything about islam

1. im not arab
2. names? yes people use arabic names but its not enforced, for example persian names are common if you're persian
3. clothes? literally most guys prefer to wear their cultural clothes than arab clothing, and youre even looked down upon if you are wearing arab clothing
4. behaviour and mentality? oh please
6. ''not to mention that everything in islam is in arabic'' well it was revealed to the arabic people first
7. not an arabocentric religion, if it was, there would be arab superiority within the religion but there isnt

 

[KeepCopingLads]

God chose Arabic as the language for Islam, no other language comes close in poetry and eloquence; unfortunately not every muslim knows Arabic which is a shame but it's a testament to the Quran that no other book comes close to it in it's word play, narrative and scientific knowledge that all works in tandem whilst rhyming

please dont speak if you dont know what you're talking about

 

[yussimania]

please dont speak if you dont know what you're talking about

wyoab

 

[KeepCopingLads]

no other language comes close in poetry and eloquence

wyoab

seriously....

 

[hopecel]

God chose Arabic as the language for Islam, no other language comes close in poetry and eloquence; unfortunately not every muslim knows Arabic which is a shame but it's a testament to the Quran that no other book comes close to it in it's word play, narrative and scientific knowledge that all works in tandem whilst rhyming

Islam is not an Arabocentric religion bro @PrinceLuenLeoncur

stupid nigga alert
tell me you know nothing of islam without telling me you dont know anything about islam

1. im not arab
2. names? yes people use arabic names but its not enforced, for example persian names are common if you're persian
3. clothes? literally most guys prefer to wear their cultural clothes than arab clothing, and youre even looked down upon if you are wearing arab clothing
4. behaviour and mentality? oh please
6. ''not to mention that everything in islam is in arabic'' well it was revealed to the arabic people first
7. not an arabocentric religion, if it was, there would be arab superiority within the religion but there isnt

weak arguments sir

look at the post above, he literally proved my point

meanwhile in Christianity, everyone prays in his own language - THAT'S WHY IT'S UNIVERSAL AND ISLAM ISN'T

 

[yussimania]

seriously....

literally find me a book in any language with over 600 pages that comes close; the Quran literally challenges you to do this yet over 1400 years no one has replicated it

 

[KeepCopingLads]

look at the post above, he literally proved my point

youre seriously listening to a person that knows nothing on what hes talking about

weak arguments sir

yet you dont try disprove them
id rather not talk any further
donkey and tiger and lion ahh scenario (ifykyk)

meanwhile in Christianity, everyone prays in his own language - THAT'S WHY IT'S UNIVERSAL AND ISLAM ISN'T

you think recitation in arabic is hard?
every muslim is able to pray in arabic

 

[KeepCopingLads]

literally find me a book in any language with over 600 pages that comes close; the Quran literally challenges you to do this yet over 1400 years no one has replicated it

bro wtf are you even talking about

 

[hopecel]

youre seriously listening to a person that knows nothing on what hes talking about

yet you dont try disprove them
id rather not talk any further
donkey and tiger and lion ahh scenario (ifykyk)

you think recitation in arabic is hard?
every muslim is able to pray in arabic

don't you hear me? if it's a universal religion, why are you not allowed to pray in your own language?

 

[yussimania]

bro wtf are you even talking about

read 41:44

 

[KeepCopingLads]

if it's a universal religion, why are you not allowed to pray in your own language?

im no sheikh
but if i had to say
in prayer, we recite the quran
the quran was revealed in arabic
so why not recite in the language it was revealed in
in the exact same words it was revealed in
also funny how you didnt even try disprove my other points on ''arabisation'' but im assuming youre taking your time with that

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Islam is not an Arabocentric religion bro @PrinceLuenLeoncur

weak arguments sir

look at the post above, he literally proved my point

meanwhile in Christianity, everyone prays in his own language - THAT'S WHY IT'S UNIVERSAL AND ISLAM ISN'T

Islam is Arab RELGION. Same way Christianity and Judaism are 2nd temple Judaic offshoots that’s about it

Yeah Muslims cope so much infact the Quran even states that it was revealed in Arabic so the Arab people can’t complain about getting a revelation not in their name. Sura 43:3 says this “Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.”

So yeah it’s for Arabs.

Muhammodens have to cope like the pope it’s pathetic and sad really

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

literally find me a book in any language with over 600 pages that comes close; the Quran literally challenges you to do this yet over 1400 years no one has replicated it

Many have replicated it billions of times over and infact many of your own scholars openly admit their own work moggs the Quran. Also this is a false criteria considering it’s SUBJECTIVE wow Muslims are so pathetic and your god is a fucking retard he couldn’t even give an objective test but something entirely dependent on subjective personal opinion.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

read 41:44

you were yapping about poetry akhi

 

[yussimania]

you were yapping about poetry akhi

Salaamu Alaykum

I got side tracked didnt read the question properly also mb i didnt know u were a muslim

 

[yussimania]

Many have replicated it billions of times over and infact many of your own scholars openly admit their own work moggs the Quran. Also this is a false criteria considering it’s SUBJECTIVE wow Muslims are so pathetic and your god is a fucking retard he couldn’t even give an objective test but something entirely dependent on subjective personal opinion.

once again quoted from his ass, this guy never brings evidence

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.”

So yeah it’s for Arabs.

maybe cus it was REVEALED TO THE ARABS FIRST

 

[KeepCopingLads]

once again quoted from his ass, this guy never brings evidence

im not bothering with this fuckass debate
even athiests dont act like how these christians act
im ignoring any notis from this thread

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Theres a YT video on it and a Persian claims his work is better and there was a guy who supposedly recited his own created sura and had many people moved thinking it was from the Quran

I can’t find the video anymore but if it popps up I’ll be sure to tag you in it when I find it but yeah I have no reason to lie about this shit I jsut can’t find the video anymore and forgot who made it if it was orthodox shahada, David wood or the Egyptian Coptic dude whose name I also forgot

This is one. The most cited is the Furqān al-Ḥaqq (“The True Criterion”), published in the 20th century, structured like a Qur’an with surahs. But why stop there? Let’s speak about how the Quran contains the speech of a djinn at one point and also the verses that are LITERALLY WORD FOR WORD from Umar Ibn Khataab 3 times

once again quoted from his ass, this guy never brings evidence

 

[whiteegyptian]

do I need to remind you that the Holy Land originally belongs to Jews and not Arabs? even in Al-Qur'an, Israel is mentioned over 40 times, "Palestine" - not even once, and yes, Allah assigned that land to the Children of Israel - not Arabs

and let me remind you, Muslim Arabs are allowed to live in Israel and freely pray in Al-Aqsa and elsewhere but Jews aren't allowed to live in Arab countries

@Copercel @kazama @Jewgymmaxx

Palestine as a nationality / ethnic term only around from 50s and 60s.

 

[whiteegyptian]

btw i wanna kick allah in his face and impale jesus

 

[hopecel]

im no sheikh
but if i had to say
in prayer, we recite the quran
the quran was revealed in arabic
so why not recite in the language it was revealed in
in the exact same words it was revealed in

Bible was revealed in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek yet Christians can recite it in any language in the world

why? because Christianity is a universal religion

also funny how you didnt even try disprove my other points on ''arabisation'' but im assuming youre taking your time with that

yes that's the reason, I have 10 tabs opened rn I mean I don't like talking about something that is obvious anyway

I think these two pics prove enough of what my point was

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

maybe cus it was REVEALED TO THE ARABS FIRST

No, not an excuse because it says to them specifically that is the case. If your argument were to be logical then it wouldn’t say to the Arabs with the aim of being an international RELGION instead it claims to be a private separate revelation for them alone that’s what’s insinuated.


Good try but yeah L

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

Ruiz - “There was no Allah for the Muslim, there was no Mohammed there was no Ummah there was only blood, death and CHRISTS WARRIORS RIDING WITH ARMIES TO DISH OUT DIVINE JUDGEMENT ON THE HEATHEN”
@Panzram @Latinolooksmaxxer @Swarthy Knight @johncel27 @KeepCopingLads

@lastredeemer get fucked

millions of death just for two religions that arent real.
people were really retarded back in the day huh

 

[yussimania]

btw i wanna kick allah in his face and impale jesus

retard even your own Rabbis say we worship the same God and also @PrinceLuenLeoncur great job siding with the ones who say our prophet is burning in excement in hell

 

[whiteegyptian]

retard even your own Rabbis say we worship the same God and also prince great job siding with the ones who say our prophet is burning in excement in hell

I hate Christianity and Islam, but I love Muhammad and Moses over Jesus and Allah, Muhammad was a HIGH T dark triad bvll same with Moshe

 

[whiteegyptian]

millions of death just for two religions that arent real.
people were really retarded back in the day huh

Tunisian atheist?

 

[hopecel]

No, not an excuse because it says to them specifically that is the case. If your argument were to be logical then it wouldn’t say to the Arabs with the aim of being an international RELGION instead it claims to be a private separate revelation for them alone that’s what’s insinuated.


Good try but yeah L

you don't get it, sir

it was revealed to Arabs in Arabic but it was meant to all humanity.. how? well the entire Ummah is supposed to learn Arabic to recite Al-Qur'an but it doesn't make the religion Arabocentric at all, humanity just need to adapt to and accept Arab culture and language

100% universal, wallahi

retard even your own Rabbis say we worship the same God and also @PrinceLuenLeoncur great job siding with the ones who say our prophet is burning in excement in hell

does that mean Jews are not kafir?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

you don't get it, sir

it was revealed to Arabs in Arabic but it was meant to all humanity.. how? well the entire Ummah is supposed to learn Arabic to recite Al-Qur'an but it doesn't make the religion Arabocentric at all, humanity just need to adapt to and accept Arab culture and language

100% universal, wallahi

does that mean Jews are not kafir?

Muslims are coping hard

Muslims are the first to curse the Jews call them All sorts but when arguing with Christian’s alll of a sudden “We worship the same god they aren’t Kafir” meanwhile Mohammed calls them Kafir hated them wanted them all dead not only that but the Jews hate Jesus and Mohammed . They deny 2 of the biggest prophets in the Islamic RELGION and yet Muslims claim they worship the same god as them because the rabbinical rabbis are fucking idiots

Also look at this, the prophets buddy’s comments entered the Quran 3 times and then a demons words did as well proving that yes actually a crested beings thoughts can enter the Quran it happened literally 4 times with even a demons words being cited

 

[yussimania]

you don't get it, sir

it was revealed to Arabs in Arabic but it was meant to all humanity.. how? well the entire Ummah is supposed to learn Arabic to recite Al-Qur'an but it doesn't make the religion Arabocentric at all, humanity just need to adapt to and accept Arab culture and language

100% universal, wallahi

does that mean Jews are not kafir?

I said HIS own rabbis say that - based on your religion us as Muslims follow noahide (i think) law so we aren't going to hel
Edit: yes you Jews are kuffar to answer your question but as ahlul kitab as you are monotheists unlike the mushrikeen polytheists

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I said HIS own rabbis say that - based on your religion us as Muslims follow noahide (i think) law so we aren't going to hell

You don’t follow Nohade law you don’t even know what that is stfu you moron I hate when Muslims say words they don’t even know

Even Jews don’t follow Noahade law fucking read a book you retard before people laugh at you. Name me one just 1 commandment of that law you’ll not be able to do it without googling because your a idiot.

Mosaic law is what Jews today follow and even then not fully because no temple so they follow a reformed version. Also Muslims dont follow thag law either because guess what abdoooool you eat camel meat and shell fish both of which aren’t allowed in the covenant not only that but your allowed to marry a woman who has divorced you and remarried, in mosaic law this is an abomination and not allowed.

Many many such other cases but I need not go on as I have made it clear Muslims don’t follow any biblical prophetical laws now stfu and don’t ever embarrass yourself like this ever again

And I don’t side with either Jews or Muslims Muslims are satanic worshipers who worship Baal and Jews worship Mammon your both demon worshippers you just both worship different demons. Jews also hate and poisoned your GAYhammed and also hate Jesus so yeah you should hate them even more than me but here you are claiming you worship the same god as them

 

[yussimania]

The 7 noahide laws:

Idolatry: Do not worship false gods or idols.
Blasphemy: Do not curse God.
Murder: Do not take a human life.
Adultery/Sexual Immorality: Do not commit forbidden sexual acts.
Theft: Do not steal.
Flesh of a Living Animal: Do not eat the limb of a living animal, which is considered cruelty to animals.
Courts of Justice: Establish and maintain courts of law to ensure justice and order in society.

every single one of us muslims follow this, you christians fail step 1

https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/2232

anyway idgaf about being a goy who makes it into jewish heaven, idk where you learn your stuff from you seem to talk alot but none of it is coherent or consistent with anything

 

[hopecel]

I said HIS own rabbis say that - based on your religion us as Muslims follow noahide (i think) law so we aren't going to hel
Edit: yes you Jews are kuffar to answer your question but as ahlul kitab as you are monotheists unlike the mushrikeen polytheists

why do you Muslims embarrass yourselves by calling Christians polytheists? Christianity is a monotheistic religion you burger-flipper

 

[yussimania]

why do you Muslims embarrass yourselves by calling Christians polytheists? Christianity is a monotheistic religion you burger-flipper

Wallahi do this for me, ask your rabbi on Saturday if Christianity is a monotheistic religion

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

why do you Muslims embarrass yourselves by calling Christians polytheists? Christianity is a monotheistic religion you burger-flipper

It’s to cope like the Jews none of these morons have an answer to shit like Isiah 63:11-17

Where father, angel of the Lord (son) and Holy Spirit are all mentioned by name as the one god


None have an answer this is why if your going to be “abrahamic” the only consistent one is Christianity the other 2 are schitzo ramblings of mental gymnastics

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Jews play both sides you dumbass

One second they say you and then worship the same god but they blow your people up and kill them literally rape Palestinian prisoners and forced them to say “Fuck Allah”

These same rabbis that call Christianity polytheistic are the same ones that coined the cringe faggot American Evanglical term “Judeo-Christian” and act like we are brothers.

These are the people your dealing with Jews view both Muslims and Christian’s as Goyim Dogs and tbh idc and don’t mind because to me both Jews and Muslims are vile heathen dogs

Wallahi do this for me, ask your rabbi on Saturday if Christianity is a monotheistic religion

 

[hopecel]

Wallahi do this for me, ask your rabbi on Saturday if Christianity is a monotheistic religion

rabbis can say whatever they want but it won't change the fact that Christianity is a monotheistic religion

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

Tunisian atheist?

Yes indeed

 

[hopecel]

Holy Trinity is NOT a polytheistic concept because if it was, there would be three Gods in Christianity (Tritheism) which is considered a heresy in ALL Christian churches @yussimania

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Holy Trinity is NOT a polytheistic concept because if it was, there would be three Gods in Christianity (Tritheism) which is considered a heresy in ALL Christian churches @yussimania

I can show you using the Torah the tanakh that the trinity is there

I can even show you using your own rabbinical Talmud sources proving Daniel 7 is about Jesus and more like I said Isiah is painful for rabbinical jews just ask your rabbi about Isiah 53 most hate that entire chapter lol let them cope