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INTENSE EXERCISE TO BOOST HORMONES TO BOOST GROWTH
bro...
this is the perfect example of why you shouldn't trust people with EXTREMELY high authority online.
they just don't know.
and yea, even Huberman...
so let's talk about what SHOULD and SHOULDNT be measured with training.
we can break it into two categories systemic hormones, and local mechanisms related to contractions.
systemic hormones are what you hear about.
- growth hormone
- insulin-like growth factor 1
- testosterone
local mechanisms related to contractions you don't really need to worry about. unless you're a nerd.
what i'll do is explain why those 'anabolic' hormones i mentioned earlier won't cause additional growth if you try to train for it.
PMID: 19910330 had participants perform elbow flexion under load which had no change in hormone levels, they then performed elbow flexion under load, followed by INTENSE leg training, which caused a huge increase in hormone levels. none of which increased muscle growth.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19910330/
The anabolic mechanisms that people associate with abusing steroids, are not activated when testosterone has these short spikes to a level that is similar to the peak of the natural range. PMID: 16868226
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16868226/
end of the day pretty simple, there's no extra growth, there's no reason why there would be, there's no observed increased growth, open closed case.
i won't lie, when i first heard leg day is required to boost testosterone, i thought that was true. (now of course i know it isn't)
i think to a certain extent this misinformation is good ONLY if it makes someone do a leg day, otherwise eliminate it for your training as it won't do anything.
here are some charts if you're into that, analyse them if you're interested on what's going on behind the scenes.
i'm happy to answer any questions you may have, but i'm not here to debate, this isn't a "oh what if it's wrong" it's not.
bro...
this is the perfect example of why you shouldn't trust people with EXTREMELY high authority online.
they just don't know.
and yea, even Huberman...
so let's talk about what SHOULD and SHOULDNT be measured with training.
we can break it into two categories systemic hormones, and local mechanisms related to contractions.
systemic hormones are what you hear about.
- growth hormone
- insulin-like growth factor 1
- testosterone
local mechanisms related to contractions you don't really need to worry about. unless you're a nerd.
what i'll do is explain why those 'anabolic' hormones i mentioned earlier won't cause additional growth if you try to train for it.
PMID: 19910330 had participants perform elbow flexion under load which had no change in hormone levels, they then performed elbow flexion under load, followed by INTENSE leg training, which caused a huge increase in hormone levels. none of which increased muscle growth.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19910330/
The anabolic mechanisms that people associate with abusing steroids, are not activated when testosterone has these short spikes to a level that is similar to the peak of the natural range. PMID: 16868226
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16868226/
end of the day pretty simple, there's no extra growth, there's no reason why there would be, there's no observed increased growth, open closed case.
i won't lie, when i first heard leg day is required to boost testosterone, i thought that was true. (now of course i know it isn't)
i think to a certain extent this misinformation is good ONLY if it makes someone do a leg day, otherwise eliminate it for your training as it won't do anything.
here are some charts if you're into that, analyse them if you're interested on what's going on behind the scenes.
i'm happy to answer any questions you may have, but i'm not here to debate, this isn't a "oh what if it's wrong" it's not.
