The biggest blackpill is that the blackpill is cope

[rambocel]

Mostly in Pms like 5 times, been rated htn like 2 times out of pms, I dont need ratings to know im goodlooking tho I can see it from my irl experience, But your correct 2020 was when ratings were good and accurate, ive viewd the old threads no one underrates

Yeah, per the communities current standards, I was probably mmtn-hmtn when I was lean. Had girls obsessed with me irl, was approached by women multiple times, was frequently told I looked like I could be a famous tiktoker, got 2800+ with those photos on tinder and matched with plenty of high quality girls (college cheerleaders, sorority girls, influencer types, etc.)

I wouldn’t be surprised if people rated me just average if I showed them those photos now lol

 

[HtnceI]

Yeah, per the communities current standards, I was probably mmtn-hmtn when I was lean. Had girls obsessed with me irl, was approached by women multiple times, was frequently told I looked like I could be a famous tiktoker, got 2800+ with those photos on tinder and matched with plenty of high quality girls (college cheerleaders, sorority girls, influencer types, etc.)

I wouldn’t be surprised if people rated me just average if I showed them those photos now lol

You were probably HTN+ then tall too

 

[rambocel]

You were probably HTN+ then tall too

I’m 6’1”

This was me then (16-17, then I fell off a cliff)

I wasn’t objective htn

 

[HtnceI]

I’m 6’1”

This was me then (16-17, then I fell off a cliff)

I wasn’t objective htn

Low htn, Htn since 6'1

 

[Klasik616]

Are you extremely physically unattractive? Are you ND? Did you have no friends? All of those could be reasons tbh

No woman wanted to be around me. I am ND? No. Ugly? No. But I only had a few friends like 2-4. I tried to have female friends, I talked to some women but it never worked.

 

[Klasik616]

I’m 6’1”

This was me then (16-17, then I fell off a cliff)

I wasn’t objective htn

Your pheno mogs me, you are latino but white. I am latino but brown, I'm not ugly but my phenotype has no appeal for women.

 

[rambocel]

Your pheno mogs me, you are latino but white. I am latino but brown, I'm not ugly but my phenotype has no appeal for women.

I’m white lol

I’m ironically like 60 percent German and the rest is European mix of countries/areas

 

[AustrianMogger]

It’s not about your looks. I mean looks matter, but not nearly to the extent that all of you autists make it out to. I see so many normal looking dudes who are with girls who are cute. Why? Because personality does matter and anyone who thinks otherwise is autistic and permanently online. You don’t have to be ultra-handsome, 6’3”+, etc. If all you’re looking for is hookups on dating apps where women only want the cream of the crop, then maybe that applies, but in reality, so long as you aren’t ugly and/or irredeemably short (like sub 5’6”), social interaction with women is very meaningful and influential.

It’s easy to blame your looks (which are more than optimal in all likelihood) than your horrible and shitty worldview and bitter personality. It’s easier to look in the mirror and say you’re ugly than to look inward and accept that you’re an insufferable human with no friends and no social circle, and the truth is that that is what arguably matters most.

I hope this message reaches younger users on this site specifically. This place can rope you in and before you know it it’ll make you autistic. Don’t let that happen to you. Unironically go outside, touch grass, and while continuing to try and improve upon your looks as best you can (because that does matter still), try to make socialization your priority.

I’m 22 now, and one of my biggest regrets is having cut off all contact with people from high school and then not going to college. It’s quite literally Been social suicide. If I had done that, I wouldn’t be here. I’d probably be with my girlfriend who loves me dearly.

Don’t be me. This is a warning to all the 14-17 year old newgens here and anyone else who feels like this applies to them.

Tales of a reddit cuck. Maybe start looksmaxxing

 

[CorinthianLOX]

I’ve personally seen it too many times to count irl.

Seen 5’7 guys in relationships?

 

[rambocel]

Seen 5’7 guys in relationships?

I have. I actually went to a predominantly Hispanic school and there were a few shorter Latino dudes with cute white girls.

My cousin is 5’6” and average to below average looking per this server’s standards, and he has an objectively hot gf.

My other cousin is also 5’8” and not conventionally good-looking, and he also is with a girl who imo is facially out of his league. He is extremely intelligent though.

When you’re permanently online, you don’t see these things. It took me getting out a little bit more to unlearn some of the “truths” the blackpill had taught me. Things are much more nuanced than they seem

 

[rambocel]

Tales of a reddit cuck. Maybe start looksmaxxing

A true Reddit cuck would say ugly turbomanlets could slay if they had a great personality. I can acknowledge that they were brutally fucked by their genes and that it’s likely over for them.

I’m saying that assuming you look average or slightly below, or are average height or slightly below, you can do very well assuming you have an AVERAGE social life. You don’t have to be 6’0” + and hmtn + to slay unless you’re only on dating apps

 

[mrdouchebag]

Looks is the most important factor. That's just a fact. And there are merits to the blackpill especially if you want to effortlessly run through women, especially attractive women, or simply want to date women noticeably above your league. Also for slaying, just being attractive isn't generally the only thing you need, you'll probably need some social capital and a favorable environment as well. The guys that I've known who got laid the most almost always worked on nightlife, part time or full time, and were fairly well connected.

However, the blackpill is cope if you just care about getting a woman and aren't picky about looks much. If you're within the average range physically(which most young men are), you are fairly well socially calibrated, go out and socialize enough, you'll eventually get an average looking woman relatively easily. It's even easier if you're still in high school, which is an isolated environment, a lot of girls didn't even have a boyfriend yet and would be happy even getting some attention since most men in school are low t and high inhib, and the girls generally aren't aware of their own desirability and how high they rank in the looks scale yet. People are being too dramatic at times. Yeah the average guy doesn't have women throwing themselves at him all the time, let alone hot women throwing themselves at him, but given enough effort he can get a girlfriend. Believing otherwise is pure delusion. Now if you're short and ugly, then ok, it's much much harder and you're playing the game on ultra hard veteran mode.

Even before I even finished puberty, I got some female attention from decent looking girls, just not the hot ones. And I was a skinny twink, who didn't even have his last growth spurt, had acne and terrible greasy long hair. Unironically, women just like to talk big, but they'll date some of the worst dudes. I've had quite a few female friends, some quite attractive, talking shit about dudes all the fucking time, then you take a look at all their previous boyfriends and they all looked mediocre by most physical metrics, easily mogged by the average gymcel. The funniest thing is when you see some 5'0 midget online stating she only dates 6'0+ men, when you know women that are 5'8+ and have banged and dated literal 5'6-5'7 manlets.

Of course women can easily have sex, especially with more attractive dudes than the ones they can lock down, but the level of female promiscuity is generally exaggerated. Are there quite a few whores? Sure. But the percentage of women who have been with 10+ guys, at least in the 18-25 age range, is at best 20%. Most attractive women aren't getting flown out to be porked by pro athletes and gigamillionaires, or getting porked by 6'3 henry cavills 24/7. They aren't on onlyfans and they don't have hundreds of thousands or millions of followers on instagram. Online brainrot focusing on the whores of Miami and Los Angeles has warped people's perception. Imagine living in some shithole town with 50-100k people and believing all the attractive young women are getting porked by men that are 1 in 30000 in terms of physical attractiveness or flown out to get porked by rich famous footballers. I remember that retard Fresh from freshandfit in some clip said something like 50% of college women are being flown out by multimillionaires. You have to be completely braindead to have such a take, but he is a nigga, so nothng out of the ordinary

 

[uksucks]

You don't become autistic by being here
You either are or you aren't and always were like that

Kids shouldn't be on this forum anyway but that's a different matter

 

[suicidemonkey]

People here be whining about their height and bone structure and how they can't get pussy, focusing on the things they can't control, instead of maximizing the stuff they can, it's infuriating.
"Gym is cope if you're not 6'2" - Whey you're too fucking lazy to go to the gym or literally just do calisthenics with your own bodyweight.
"Personality is cope" - When you're scared of women and can't bring yourself to approach someone.
"Chad doesn't have to do 'x'"

Looks do matter. But this blackpill shit is as much of a cope. Most people here, at least in Offtopic, seem to use it to justify rotting and doing nothing, because they're too lazy (and/or defeated) to maximize what they have power over right now.

You think a NT MTN can pull above average looking women ?

 

[Deleted member 328836]

You think a NT MTN can pull above average looking women ?

I think it's dumb to use blackpill as an excuse to rot and not focus on what you actually CAN control.

 

[suicidemonkey]

Dude, in college I dated 0 girls because they didn't wanted me. Barely made any friends and I was basically a nobody for women.

I was a bit of a social outcast at uni. I had social anxiety but even without it, I still couldn’t fit in for some reason.

 

[suicidemonkey]

I think it's dumb to use blackpill as an excuse to rot and not focus on what you actually CAN

I hadn’t seen my cousin in a while (a few yrs younger than me) but one of the first thing he pointed out was that he thought I looked good, he also complimented my arms.

There was this other guy, a friend of my sister’s boyfriend. Similar deal with him, he said that I looked good out of nowhere upon first seeing me after 6+ months.

Surely these are good signs? My confidence around women has dropped off so I’m not sure if I’m discounting game.

 

[Deleted member 328836]

I hadn’t seen my cousin in a while (a few yrs younger than me) but one of the first thing he pointed out was that he thought I looked good, he also complimented my arms.

There was this other guy, a friend of my sister’s boyfriend. Similar deal with him, he said that I looked good out of nowhere upon first seeing me after 6+ months.

Surely these are good signs? My confidence around women has dropped off so I’m not sure if I’m discounting game.

I mean yeah, you good!

 

[karmacitathugmaxx]

accept that you’re an insufferable human with no friends and no social circle, and the truth is that that is what arguably matters most.

do you really think i would have still become one of these if i didnt grow up chopped. come on

if i manage to look pretty, i basically guarantee all of a sudden people will stop finding me insufferable. Bookmark it

 

[suicidemonkey]

I mean yeah, you good!

This is sarcastic ?

 

[Deleted member 328836]

This is sarcastic ?

It is not sarcastic, I'm just not sure why you're asking me that. I'm not some mogging god, or even that socially skilled.

 

[rambocel]

Looks is the most important factor. That's just a fact. And there are merits to the blackpill especially if you want to effortlessly run through women, especially attractive women, or simply want to date women noticeably above your league. Also for slaying, just being attractive isn't generally the only thing you need, you'll probably need some social capital and a favorable environment as well. The guys that I've known who got laid the most almost always worked on nightlife, part time or full time, and were fairly well connected.

However, the blackpill is cope if you just care about getting a woman and aren't picky about looks much. If you're within the average range physically(which most young men are), you are fairly well socially calibrated, go out and socialize enough, you'll eventually get an average looking woman relatively easily. It's even easier if you're still in high school, which is an isolated environment, a lot of girls didn't even have a boyfriend yet and would be happy even getting some attention since most men in school are low t and high inhib, and the girls generally aren't aware of their own desirability and how high they rank in the looks scale yet. People are being too dramatic at times. Yeah the average guy doesn't have women throwing themselves at him all the time, let alone hot women throwing themselves at him, but given enough effort he can get a girlfriend. Believing otherwise is pure delusion. Now if you're short and ugly, then ok, it's much much harder and you're playing the game on ultra hard veteran mode.

Even before I even finished puberty, I got some female attention from decent looking girls, just not the hot ones. And I was a skinny twink, who didn't even have his last growth spurt, had acne and terrible greasy long hair. Unironically, women just like to talk big, but they'll date some of the worst dudes. I've had quite a few female friends, some quite attractive, talking shit about dudes all the fucking time, then you take a look at all their previous boyfriends and they all looked mediocre by most physical metrics, easily mogged by the average gymcel. The funniest thing is when you see some 5'0 midget online stating she only dates 6'0+ men, when you know women that are 5'8+ and have banged and dated literal 5'6-5'7 manlets.

Of course women can easily have sex, especially with more attractive dudes than the ones they can lock down, but the level of female promiscuity is generally exaggerated. Are there quite a few whores? Sure. But the percentage of women who have been with 10+ guys, at least in the 18-25 age range, is at best 20%. Most attractive women aren't getting flown out to be porked by pro athletes and gigamillionaires, or getting porked by 6'3 henry cavills 24/7. They aren't on onlyfans and they don't have hundreds of thousands or millions of followers on instagram. Online brainrot focusing on the whores of Miami and Los Angeles has warped people's perception. Imagine living in some shithole town with 50-100k people and believing all the attractive young women are getting porked by men that are 1 in 30000 in terms of physical attractiveness or flown out to get porked by rich famous footballers. I remember that retard Fresh from freshandfit in some clip said something like 50% of college women are being flown out by multimillionaires. You have to be completely braindead to have such a take, but he is a nigga, so nothng out of the ordinary

High IQ reply tbh. Read every word

 

[LKira]

Your pheno mogs me, you are latino but white. I am latino but brown, I'm not ugly but my phenotype has no appeal for women.

 

[rambocel]

Rate me currently + pheno

 

[Deleted member 136383]

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[Deleted member 136383]

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[iamgoingtoascend]

looks matter, pretty privilege is real, we should all strive to improve them. However there is so much more to life then being good looking and you dont need to look like a male model to live a happy and fulfilled life. Its really that simple. Thats how i think about it at least and i think its a relatevely healthy mindset compared to the BP doomer mindset that led you to this

 

[HundredManSlayer]

(like sub 5’6”)

welp

 

[gymceltard]

100% True. This video summarizes it well (with proof) Most blackpillers are basement rotters so they don't see average couples IRL bc they don't leave their mothers basement.

They unironically believe the only guys getting sex and relationships are 6'2 Aryan Chads

 

[kranerman23123]

Thermonuclear cope

 

[emogymmaxx]

How tho

no girls wants chad that only talks about bp and roids and nd shit
they want chad that talks about how much money there dad gave them that week

 

[datboijj]

Don’t be me. This is a warning to all the 14-17 year old newgens here and anyone else who feels like this applies to them.

The black pill never said if you aren’t good looking you will be alone forever. It just said being good looking increases your life quality by 2 thousand times, that’s all.
You can delete your acount now you idiot

 

[rambocel]

The black pill never said if you aren’t good looking you will be alone forever. It just said being good looking increases your life quality by 2 thousand times, that’s all.
You can delete your acount now you idiot

I feel like this was a more common belief pre-mainstream but I’ve seen increased radicalization and extreme thinking as it’s become more popular. Also why are you being a dick to me? We go way back, I thought we were cool. Don’t you remember me? I’ve been in this community longer than you jfl

 

[Davidproton]

Yeah, per the communities current standards, I was probably mmtn-hmtn when I was lean. Had girls obsessed with me irl, was approached by women multiple times, was frequently told I looked like I could be a famous tiktoker, got 2800+ with those photos on tinder and matched with plenty of high quality girls (college cheerleaders, sorority girls, influencer types, etc.)

I wouldn’t be surprised if people rated me just average if I showed them those photos now lol

Dm pics

 

[rambocel]

Dm pics

Just scroll up a little bit on this page

 

[100%nt]

It’s not about your looks. I mean looks matter, but not nearly to the extent that all of you autists make it out to. I see so many normal looking dudes who are with girls who are cute. Why? Because personality does matter and anyone who thinks otherwise is autistic and permanently online. You don’t have to be ultra-handsome, 6’3”+, etc. If all you’re looking for is hookups on dating apps where women only want the cream of the crop, then maybe that applies, but in reality, so long as you aren’t ugly and/or irredeemably short (like sub 5’6”), social interaction with women is very meaningful and influential.

It’s easy to blame your looks (which are more than optimal in all likelihood) than your horrible and shitty worldview and bitter personality. It’s easier to look in the mirror and say you’re ugly than to look inward and accept that you’re an insufferable human with no friends and no social circle, and the truth is that that is what arguably matters most.

I hope this message reaches younger users on this site specifically. This place can rope you in and before you know it it’ll make you autistic. Don’t let that happen to you. Unironically go outside, touch grass, and while continuing to try and improve upon your looks as best you can (because that does matter still), try to make socialization your priority.

I’m 22 now, and one of my biggest regrets is having cut off all contact with people from high school and then not going to college. It’s quite literally Been social suicide. If I had done that, I wouldn’t be here. I’d probably be with my girlfriend who loves me dearly.

Don’t be me. This is a warning to all the 14-17 year old newgens here and anyone else who feels like this applies to them.

Bluepill nonsense

 

[rambocel]

Bluepill nonsense

Ok, retard

 

[1966Ford]

Why does it seem like I remember you from early 2023?

 

[rambocel]

Why does it seem like I remember you from early 2023?

I’ve been on .org since 2020 and have posted on and off since then

 

[superpsycho]

I hope this message reaches younger users on this site specifically. This place can rope you in and before you know it it’ll make you autistic. Don’t let that happen to you. Unironically go outside, touch grass, and while continuing to try and improve upon your looks as best you can (because that does matter still), try to make socialization your priority.

this is legit advice for the below average joe, its just a lot of users here were born neurodivergent or bullied growing up which just makes this x10 harder. even then, if you think you’re subhuman and you think its over for you but you haven’t even tried, i wholeheartedly believe you need to get the fuck up and try before falling in to this looksmax bullshit, the only reason i ever discovered this forum was because of my multiple failed attempts at getting a girlfriend and being friendless.

I’m 22 now, and one of my biggest regrets is having cut off all contact with people from high school and then not going to college. It’s quite literally Been social suicide. If I had done that, I wouldn’t be here. I’d probably be with my girlfriend who loves me dearly.

in reality i cant blame people who where bullied in high school for cutting contact with everyone from there, that was what i did and my mental health has improved significantly. but regardless, social circle is so fucking important, and when i say social circle i dont mean a pseudo friend group where they bully you and you’re the punchline of every fucking joke, i mean a social circle of likeminded people who enjoy your presence and would defend you if someone tried bullshitting you. no amount of pussy or looksmaxxing will ever fill the void of lacking the camaraderie and memories a REAL friend group has to offer. also a lot of people i know from my past got girlfriends through social circle, even incelish guys.

with all of that said, i still dont think the blackpill is cope and it is unfortunately over for some guys but how can you know its truly over for you if you never got up?

 

[Decha]

Why do all these above it all pre-2020cels always end up coping with personality?

 

[bloomercel]

Some of us are indeed irredeemably short.

Why do all these above it all pre-2020cels always end up coping with personality?

Because they are old now, oldcels love this stuff.

 

[rambocel]

this is legit advice for the below average joe, its just a lot of users here were born neurodivergent or bullied growing up which just makes this x10 harder. even then, if you think you’re subhuman and you think its over for you but you haven’t even tried, i wholeheartedly believe you need to get the fuck up and try before falling in to this looksmax bullshit, the only reason i ever discovered this forum was because of my multiple failed attempts at getting a girlfriend and being friendless.

in reality i cant blame people who where bullied in high school for cutting contact with everyone from there, that was what i did and my mental health has improved significantly. but regardless, social circle is so fucking important, and when i say social circle i dont mean a pseudo friend group where they bully you and you’re the punchline of every fucking joke, i mean a social circle of likeminded people who enjoy your presence and would defend you if someone tried bullshitting you. no amount of pussy or looksmaxxing will ever fill the void of lacking the camaraderie and memories a REAL friend group has to offer. also a lot of people i know from my past got girlfriends through social circle, even incelish guys.

with all of that said, i still dont think the blackpill is cope and it is unfortunately over for some guys but how can you know its truly over for you if you never got up?

Agree with all of this

 

[datboijj]

I feel like this was a more common belief pre-mainstream but I’ve seen increased radicalization and extreme thinking as it’s become more popular. Also why are you being a dick to me? We go way back, I thought we were cool. Don’t you remember me? I’ve been in this community longer than you jfl

Sorry lol

 

[BlackSilence]

It’s not about your looks. I mean looks matter, but not nearly to the extent that all of you autists make it out to. I see so many normal looking dudes who are with girls who are cute. Why? Because personality does matter and anyone who thinks otherwise is autistic and permanently online. You don’t have to be ultra-handsome, 6’3”+, etc. If all you’re looking for is hookups on dating apps where women only want the cream of the crop, then maybe that applies, but in reality, so long as you aren’t ugly and/or irredeemably short (like sub 5’6”), social interaction with women is very meaningful and influential.

It’s easy to blame your looks (which are more than optimal in all likelihood) than your horrible and shitty worldview and bitter personality. It’s easier to look in the mirror and say you’re ugly than to look inward and accept that you’re an insufferable human with no friends and no social circle, and the truth is that that is what arguably matters most.

I hope this message reaches younger users on this site specifically. This place can rope you in and before you know it it’ll make you autistic. Don’t let that happen to you. Unironically go outside, touch grass, and while continuing to try and improve upon your looks as best you can (because that does matter still), try to make socialization your priority.

I’m 22 now, and one of my biggest regrets is having cut off all contact with people from high school and then not going to college. It’s quite literally Been social suicide. If I had done that, I wouldn’t be here. I’d probably be with my girlfriend who loves me dearly.

Don’t be me. This is a warning to all the 14-17 year old newgens here and anyone else who feels like this applies to them.

“Blackpill”, proceeds to describe lookism

 

[rambocel]

Sorry lol

I love you bro

We go all the way back. 2021, James Sapphire. Peak era

 

[fantamaxxer]

You can also be blackpilled on being autistic

 

[datboijj]

I love you bro

We go all the way back. 2021, James Sapphire. Peak era

Rambo I’ve known about since 2018 you been sneaking around a lot of servers

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

Why do all these above it all pre-2020cels always end up coping with personality?

It's true tho, where's the lie in what he said? There indeed ARE millions of average ass normies in relationships, there ARE average ass normies making out and fucking club foids that mog them but were drunk and slutty. Blackpill isn't about looks being everything when it comes to getting foids, it's about how much easier it is if you are good looking. It's about putting in 20 times less effor to get a hookup, it's about being aproached, complimented, ego, validations that the average man will never get and will always desire. It's about retaining LTRs and having true love instead of being taken advantage off in the relationship for money and resources.

 

[rambocel]

It's true tho, where's the lie in what he said? There indeed ARE millions of average ass normies in relationships, there ARE average ass normies making out and fucking club foids that mog them but were drunk and slutty. Blackpill isn't about looks being everything when it comes to getting foids, it's about how much easier it is if you are good looking. It's about putting in 20 times less effor to get a hookup, it's about being aproached, complimented, ego, validations that the average man will never get and will always desire. It's about retaining LTRs and having true love instead of being taken advantage off in the relationship for money and resources.

The newgens will come to understand this in due time, or maybe not because a lot of them seem very retarded lol