The blackpill of creativity.

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The pill goes along these lines...

You're either born a genius with supernatural amounts of talent and bravura, or you just aren't. That's it.

Naturally... geniuses are born, not made.

I've compiled my long essay in short segments with spoilers. Take your time and read the whole thing if you're going to read.

Creativity is something infinitely more harder than discovery or mastering a pre-existing skill. Some common examples where high levels of creativity are required are art composition (painting something unique) and music composition (creating new harmonies, original melodies, etc.).

Talking about mastering pre-existing skills... it is easy to paint something you can see or draw a basic human figure. But painting something new, unseen and aesthetically pleasing is the hardest. No mount of practice will ever benefit you to truly think original. Again, in music. It is easy for anybody to pick up a violin or start learning the piano. it is easy for anybody to practice and master techniques or play fast with accuracy. But writing something for an instrument (or multiple) that is unique and addictive is near impossible for the majority of the population. In terms of mastering a skill (which falls in the discovery sub section)... it is easy to become a human calculator if you keep practicing every day. Anyone can do that till a certain extent... just like the fine artist or the virtuoso musician.
Stuff like discovery includes finding some law or principle that already exists within creation (like Newton's laws of gravity). And calculus or any other mathematical or scientific formula/solution system was discovered out of necessity. This world has absolutes and that's why certain things are fixed or constants.
And in the field of math and science (which lie fundamentally on discovery)... people will not be criticized for unoriginal thinking. In fact discovering new things requires you to study previously established works and use them as aid in a form of plagiarism. The total opposite happens in art.

Discovering something isn't really all of a "genius" thing since what you seek to find or have found has already been there. Creativity is the total opposite.
When you are talking about art and music composition your creations are expected to value and balance these things in an appropriate way -
  • originality
  • aesthetic/technical pleasureability and
  • coherency (i.e., how much sense it makes to the general audience)
Being able to retain these three factors in your composition of art or music has got to be the most difficult thing to do in existence.

And this is where the blackpill about this entire issue comes in. The blackpill is that trying to consciously retain originality, coherency and aesthetic pleasureability will only make things worse for you.

It's counter-productive.

The fact that you have to "try" to do this automatically demonstrates that you just are not a genius. And there's a 99% chance that what you produce will either be bland, boring, not exciting and it will lack the ability to capture or invoke a certain human experience/emotion. To sum it up, your works/efforts will be easily forgotten in a few years...... even among those 'yes-men' who pitied on you for your "efforts".
The entire Olympus and technical magnitude of both discovery and creativity increases as time goes by. Let's talk about discovery first. Finding electricity was easy... but later on, after generations... building large scale electrical appliances became complex, yet achievable.

Now just imagine the same case for art and music... so much of music has already been discovered throughout the 16-20th centuries. So many masterpieces have been written. And this has happened till the point that modern musicians' music will sound plagiarized since there really aren't any more possibilities left. The only exception to this is none other than the genius or the prodigy.
Everybody is familiar and most likely bored of that same old landscape scenery of a mountain or sea and the sun in the middle, lol. This is why modern art had to come into existence where painting new content and expressing yourself in a bizarre and original way was pushed in the early 1900s.
The same happened with music. "Twinkle-Twinkle little star" became a joke and more advanced yet exciting compositions needed to come into existence or else humanity would be stuck to simplicity and would have died out of boredom. Every normie knows about the simple 'C major, A minor, F major, G major' chord progression lol.

Mozart naturally had music in his head and it just flowed like water when he sat by the instrument to express it.
Child prodigies like Mozart or Samuel Barber didn't "try"..... it just naturally occurred and they succeeded.

Ever wondered why some piece of art or music just felt like it was meant to be "this way"... coherent and easily appealing at first glance? It's the work of a genius.

TLDR -

Creativity is much harder than discovery and should be given more credit than discovering something, at least imo.

Reminder that you'll never ever be a creative legend like Shakespeare, Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo or Beethoven.

You'll be the same normie who'll have to either die trying to fake original and mind-blowing creativity...
or simply give up and cope with your existence in some other way... (most likely hedonism).



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OP needs shrooms
 
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There is nothing new under the sun
 
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At the same time, don't beat yourself up about this shit either. When you realize creativity is just another trait you are given at birth, you'll realize it's not really something to cry about. You are what you are, it's not your fault at all.

It seems as time passes we are getting more and more naturalistic and deterministic in our worldviews, everything is determined by pre-existing causes, in this situation our creativity is determined via our genetic makeup.

It's not my fault, so I won't berate myself about it, it is what it is, just another blackpill.
 
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shakespear: son of governament and entrepeneur father, landowning mother.
michaelangel: could afford to buy a stone block and smack it for years
leonardo : could afford the highest quality of paint, paper and education becasue his father was a rich land owner
beethoven: father beat him till he learned to play properly for his first recital at age 6.


realy depends on ur parents and quality of education. expectation.

dont expect a single mother to produce geniuses from a low tier public school. dont expect ur bad parents and public education to instill in u a creativity. u are not special because u are not forced or not expected to be or not in a environtment for it
 
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I created deez nuts
 
True, jfl at thinking you can learn how to make music, you can learn the theory and techniques but if you need those to make music it's over for you, I know a producer who makes the most original music I've ever heard, he doesnt know how to play any instrument and doesnt know music theory, but he stills makes awesome original music, and the most brutal part is that he doesn't think when making music, he just do it by intuition and by ideas that pops into his head. Very true OP.
Indeed. Paying thousands of dollars for some music or art degree at a high level conservatoire won't necessarily make you a successful composer or a genius. So much of it is either genetic or supernatural which just cannot be explained. Mozart's dad was a musician himself.

The thing that sucks is that in any institution where you learn music theory or composition... is that they'll teach you techniques for composition... but they will never tell you how to really do it, or how do you create the most unforgettable melodies. The blackpill is that there just is no specific formula to that.

The music either starts playing in your head or it doesn't.

So much music of a contemporary is highly reminiscent of another contemporary or a master who lived in the past. The previous legend's music just gets stuck in their head till the point they can't escape out of their "style" and everything they try to write only imitates the old master's music, instead of sounding original.

And btw, the producer who you were talking about most likely even has a high IQ. Very few people can hear good music in their head and then just write it down. Mirin how he didn't even need to learn music theory or an instrument. Usually people learn an instrument and then they are familiar on how they should write for it. @Darkstrand thoughts?
 
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anyone that has the time can be creative imo
it's more putting it to form that is the difficult part, they are mediums and skills to master over time
 
anyone that has the time can be creative imo
it's more putting it to form that is the difficult part, they are mediums and skills to master over time
Yeah, but maintaining the three things I addressed in the OP (originality, aesthetic/technical pleasureability and coherency) becomes harder for the average person. It is possible, but takes A LOT of time and effort to really come close to mastering it if you're not a prodigy or genius.
 
Indeed. Paying thousands of dollars for some music or art degree at a high level conservatoire won't necessarily make you a successful composer or a genius. So much of it is either genetic or supernatural which just cannot be explained. Mozart's dad was a musician himself.

The thing that sucks is that in any institution where you learn music theory or composition... is that they'll teach you techniques for composition... but they will never tell you how to really do it, or how do you create the most unforgettable melodies. The blackpill is that there just is no specific formula to that.

The music either starts playing in your head or it doesn't.

So much music of a contemporary is highly reminiscent of another contemporary or a master who lived in the past. The previous legend's music just gets stuck in their head till the point they can't escape out of their "style" and everything they try to write only imitates the old master's music, instead of sounding original.

And btw, the producer who you were talking about most likely even has a high IQ. Very few people can hear good music in their head and then just write it down. Mirin how he didn't even need to learn music theory or an instrument. Usually people learn an instrument and then they are familiar on how they should write for it. @Darkstrand thoughts?
Agree with everything you said, everyone can learn to be good at instruments, know theory and name every chord and key and note and what not, but very few people can write enjoyable music.
The first few songs I wrote after I started playing guitar are still some of the most memorable ones, I just wrote what I heard in my head.
The problem I find with writing from what you hear is, that obviously you enjoy a very specific style of music, so most of the melodies you come up with are very similar.
But really if someone asked me how exactly I write music, I have no clue, I just do what sounds good, is fun to play and is at least somewhat unique
 
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