⚰️The Brutal Truth⚰️: Being lean doesn't even matter if you're sub 5.5 PSL

[TalesFromTheSlums]

If you're even CONSIDERING getting below 15% bodyfat (not saying to be fat, just saying getting MORE lean would be useless) KYS.

Being lean predates that you have at least a good, high-tier norman face (HTN). If you're not a HTN then being 5%, 10%, 15%+ all are equal.

You won't start getting hookups and girls eyeballing you because you got abs if your face isn't meeting the looks threshold, which is 5+ PSL.

This is for GENERAL appeal, not "NICHE" appeal. To attract girls/women GENERALLY, being lean is useless if your face is not over a 5 PSL.

The floor is yours, so enjoy wasting your time trying to prove anything I've said otherwise.

*this isn't saying to be high bodyfat -- it's saying no point in being SHREDDED/sub 15%

 

[Saad00000]

Can someone be high body fat and attractive?

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

Can someone be high body fat and attractive?

 

[Hexxon07]

Can someone be high body fat and attractive?

not super attractive but im 30% bf and I get approached frequently. I am 6'4ish and have like a really unique eye colour tho

 

[sover]

cuz she loves the attentionnn

 

[sayi]

If you're even CONSIDERING getting below 15% bodyfat (not saying to be fat, just saying getting MORE lean would be useless) KYS.

Being lean predates that you have at least a good, high-tier norman face (HTN). If you're not a HTN then being 5%, 10%, 15%+ all are equal.

You won't start getting hookups and girls eyeballing you because you got abs if your face isn't meeting the looks threshold, which is 5+ PSL.

This is for GENERAL appeal, not "NICHE" appeal. To attract girls/women GENERALLY, being lean is useless if your face is not over a 5 PSL.

The floor is yours, so enjoy wasting your time trying to prove anything I've said otherwise.

*this isn't saying to be high bodyfat -- it's saying no point in being SHREDDED/sub 15%

Correct, not all guys look good when they get lean, I'm like 4 PSL and my fwhr and neck thickness were brutal when I got very lean. My face looks good when I'm around 15-17% bodyfat percentage

 

[averagenormie]

If you're even CONSIDERING getting below 15% bodyfat (not saying to be fat, just saying getting MORE lean would be useless) KYS.

Being lean predates that you have at least a good, high-tier norman face (HTN). If you're not a HTN then being 5%, 10%, 15%+ all are equal.

You won't start getting hookups and girls eyeballing you because you got abs if your face isn't meeting the looks threshold, which is 5+ PSL.

This is for GENERAL appeal, not "NICHE" appeal. To attract girls/women GENERALLY, being lean is useless if your face is not over a 5 PSL.

The floor is yours, so enjoy wasting your time trying to prove anything I've said otherwise.

*this isn't saying to be high bodyfat -- it's saying no point in being SHREDDED/sub 15%

Just be nourished and 15% bf and that's all

 

[butterworld]

It’s not true. Experiments have been run on this forum where MTN gymmaxed gymcels slayed on dating apps just from having a good physique. But you can keep philosophizing with 0 data and brainrot tiktok ramblings

 

[oily703]

Yeah no shit
Water fucking thread

 

[oily703]

It’s not true. Experiments have been run on this forum where MTN gymmaxed gymcels slayed on dating apps just from having a good physique. But you can keep philosophizing with 0 data and brainrot tiktok ramblings

The point is your face isnt going to get any better

 

[butterworld]

The point is your face isnt going to get any better

It’s just not true, going from 15-10% yields a lot of improvement. You’re literally losing 1/3rd of the fat on your body. Idk what’s the point in fearmongering an obvious looksmax clearly if you’re deformed it’s not going to help but for majority of people it’ll yield good results.

 

[oily703]

It’s just not true, going from 15-10% yields a lot of improvement. You’re literally losing 1/3rd of the fat on your body. Idk what’s the point in fearmongering an obvious looksmax clearly if you’re deformed it’s not going to help but for majority of people it’ll yield good results.

 

[butterworld]

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1st would have more appeal if they gained muscle, second would have less appeal if they were less leaner. No one said getting lean would turn you into a model moron

 

[oily703]

1st would have more appeal if they gained muscle, second would have less appeal if they were less leaner. No one said getting lean would turn you into a model moron

Youre a real fucking retard you know that
His experience isnt going to change if he goes from a low ltn to a high ltn
Thats the point of the post
Sure you will look a tad better but there will be 0 noticeable changes in how people treat you

 

[butterworld]

Youre a real fucking retard you know that
His experience isnt going to change if he goes from a low ltn to a high ltn
Thats the point of the post
Sure you will look a tad better but there will be 0 noticeable changes in how people treat you

From what I gathered from the post it’s “muhh if you’re htn facially don’t get leaner past 15% or because either way you’ll never get hookups or slay”. It’s just not true, even if leanmaxxing gets you from low ltn to high ltn or high ltn to low mtn. those small jumps are instrumental in increasing your odds of slaying. And also a lean sub 15% bf physique that’s well built is a halo in itself.

Go fuck yourself.

 

[noodlelover]

It’s not true. Experiments have been run on this forum where MTN gymmaxed gymcels slayed on dating apps just from having a good physique. But you can keep philosophizing with 0 data and brainrot tiktok ramblings

Putting all those experiments together in my head. For those who have ugly faces:

1. Roided Physic, can be bathroom mirror pic. Can have glasses. Can have no proof of friends or that you have a life.

2. Natty Physic, needs to be softmaxed as well (hair style), and some proof that you do things and have friends. Unless it's top 1% natty physic. Lean is most important, and having at least calisthenics level muscles (small muscles) but bigger muscles will also do well.

If you're even CONSIDERING getting below 15% bodyfat (not saying to be fat, just saying getting MORE lean would be useless) KYS.

Being lean predates that you have at least a good, high-tier norman face (HTN). If you're not a HTN then being 5%, 10%, 15%+ all are equal.

Being lean (10% bf) makes your face look better. More angular and more attractive.

Have you ever gotten to 10% bf? You get so much more attention than 15% it's crazy.

Youre a real fucking retard you know that
His experience isnt going to change if he goes from a low ltn to a high ltn
Thats the point of the post
Sure you will look a tad better but there will be 0 noticeable changes in how people treat you

But it's step in the right direction. More steps in that direction, and you will eventually get a hot gf.

Let's take a metaphor. Your goal is to walk to your mailbox. The mailbox represents having a girlfriend you find attractive.

What the op is essentially arguing is, If I'm five steps away, taking three steps won't work because I still won't have arrived at the mailbox.

Well no shit, you keep taking steps and eventually you arrive at the mailbox (your goal of getting a hot gf).

Op mostly doesn't believe in all the options available to him. Softmax, Surgery, Mewing, Jutting, Colored Contacts, Skin-maxing, Hair-maxing (advanced hair piece if it doesn't work), game (ability to be funny, charming, captivating, makes people want to be around you which gives you more of a chance), throwing parties, having money to live an exciting active lifestyle that girls want to be part of, Voice surgery for a deeper voice, Vocal practice for a more seductive voice, and so on. (I gate keep, but there's more solutions out there).

"None of those things work if you're sub-4". No-shit, that's why you combine all of them. You don't get to your goal by taking a couple steps and then giving up. You walk all the way to your goal.

 

[oily703]

Putting all those experiments together in my head. For those who have ugly faces:

1. Roided Physic, can be bathroom mirror pic. Can have glasses. Can have no proof of friends or that you have a life.

2. Natty Physic, needs to be softmaxed as well (hair style), and some proof that you do things and have friends. Unless it's top 1% natty physic. Lean is most important, and having at least calisthenics level muscles (small muscles) but bigger muscles will also do well.



Being lean (10% bf) makes your face look better. More angular and more attractive.

Have you ever gotten to 10% bf? You get so much more attention than 15% it's crazy.



But it's step in the right direction. More steps in that direction, and you will eventually get a hot gf.

Let's take a metaphor. Your goal is to walk to your mailbox. The mailbox represents having a girlfriend you find attractive.

What the op is essentially arguing is, If I'm five steps away, taking three steps won't work because I still won't have arrived at the mailbox.

Well no shit, you keep taking steps and eventually you arrive at the mailbox (your goal of getting a hot gf).

Op mostly doesn't believe in all the options available to him. Softmax, Surgery, Mewing, Jutting, Colored Contacts, Skin-maxing, Hair-maxing (advanced hair piece if it doesn't work), game (ability to be funny, charming, captivating, makes people want to be around you which gives you more of a chance), throwing parties, having money to live an exciting active lifestyle that girls want to be part of, Voice surgery for a deeper voice, Vocal practice for a more seductive voice, and so on. (I gate keep, but there's more solutions out there).

"None of those things work if you're sub-4". No-shit, that's why you combine all of them. You don't get to your goal by taking a couple steps and then giving up. You walk all the way to your goal.

How is noone blackpilled on a blackpill forum jfl
Only thing you said makes sense is surgery
But thats something else entirely from losing weight

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

Putting all those experiments together in my head. For those who have ugly faces:

1. Roided Physic, can be bathroom mirror pic. Can have glasses. Can have no proof of friends or that you have a life.

2. Natty Physic, needs to be softmaxed as well (hair style), and some proof that you do things and have friends. Unless it's top 1% natty physic. Lean is most important, and having at least calisthenics level muscles (small muscles) but bigger muscles will also do well.



Being lean (10% bf) makes your face look better. More angular and more attractive.

Have you ever gotten to 10% bf? You get so much more attention than 15% it's crazy.



But it's step in the right direction. More steps in that direction, and you will eventually get a hot gf.

Let's take a metaphor. Your goal is to walk to your mailbox. The mailbox represents having a girlfriend you find attractive.

What the op is essentially arguing is, If I'm five steps away, taking three steps won't work because I still won't have arrived at the mailbox.

Well no shit, you keep taking steps and eventually you arrive at the mailbox (your goal of getting a hot gf).

Op mostly doesn't believe in all the options available to him. Softmax, Surgery, Mewing, Jutting, Colored Contacts, Skin-maxing, Hair-maxing (advanced hair piece if it doesn't work), game (ability to be funny, charming, captivating, makes people want to be around you which gives you more of a chance), throwing parties, having money to live an exciting active lifestyle that girls want to be part of, Voice surgery for a deeper voice, Vocal practice for a more seductive voice, and so on. (I gate keep, but there's more solutions out there).

"None of those things work if you're sub-4". No-shit, that's why you combine all of them. You don't get to your goal by taking a couple steps and then giving up. You walk all the way to your goal.

You can't make a face that's not inherently angular suddenly become angular through weight loss. Are you really that fucking retarded?

That's like thinking if you remove the dirt etched on to a square that it'll become a circle once you clean it. No, Mr. Dumbfaggotnigger.

Being lean (10% bf) makes your face look better.

No it doesn't stupid. It makes your bodyfat go down. You can't make a face with a shit base look notably better just by losing weight.

Still had zero bones & looked like shit at his leanest & was incel. When you have a shit base, normal bf% vs skinny doesn't do much.

 

[xeqri]

Stop talking retarded bullshit.

Each person will gain a different amount of appeal from getting lean. If you’re around 25% or above it’s legit impossible to be htn.

if you’re at least LTN or MTN and you’re 20% or more, getting down to 10-12% will make a big difference.

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

Stop talking retarded bullshit.

Each person will gain a different amount of appeal from getting lean. If you’re around 25% or above it’s legit impossible to be htn.

if you’re at least LTN or MTN and you’re 20% or more, getting down to 10-12% will make a big difference.

I never said be fat retard. This isn't some fat-appreciation thread. I'm saying getting lower than 14-16% does shit if your base is bad.

You don't need to be that lean (under 15% or sometimes more) to be facemaxxed, Many morons look worse when getting TOO lean.

 

[butterworld]

How is noone blackpilled on a blackpill forum jfl
Only thing you said makes sense is surgery
But thats something else entirely from losing weight

Blackpilled with experience and evidence>Being blackpilled and only getting knowledge from tiktok mog clips

 

[The Dark Phoenix]

dnr I'm a lean mean machine

 

[xeqri]

I never said be fat retard. This isn't some fat-appreciation thread. I'm saying getting lower than 14-16% does shit if your base is bad.

You don't need to be that lean (under 15% or sometimes more) to be facemaxxed, Many morons look worse when getting TOO lean.

That’s still retarded. You’ll see the most noticeable facial fat reduction going down from 15 to 10. Way more than 20->15

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

That’s still retarded. You’ll see the most noticeable facial fat reduction going down from 15 to 10. Way more than 20->15

 

[oily703]

That’s still retarded. You’ll see the most noticeable facial fat reduction going down from 15 to 10. Way more than 20->15

How are you still missing the point

 

[noodlelover]

You can't make a face that's not inherently angular suddenly become angular through weight loss. Are you really that fucking retarded?

That's like thinking if you remove the dirt etched on to a square that it'll become a circle once you clean it. No, Mr. Dumbfaggotnigger.

You're wrong and don't understand human physiology.

No it doesn't stupid. It makes your bodyfat go down. You can't make a face with a shit base look notably better just by losing weight.

Still had zero bones & looked like shit at his leanest & was incel. When you have a shit base, normal bf% vs skinny doesn't do much.

To most girls the lean version of him looks better. His face and jaw are also more angular now.

He's incel because he has more to work on. Read my SMV maxing paragraph above.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

The point is your face isnt going to get any better

are you retarded? if your fat and you become leaner your face will become much better

 

[oily703]

are you retarded? if your fat and you become leaner your face will become much better

Read the fucking post how about that
I can tell youre a dirty nigger from the screen

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Read the fucking post how about that
I can tell youre a dirty nigger from the screen

still dont understand the point your trying to make

 

[lebesgue]

Putting all those experiments together in my head. For those who have ugly faces:

1. Roided Physic, can be bathroom mirror pic. Can have glasses. Can have no proof of friends or that you have a life.

2. Natty Physic, needs to be softmaxed as well (hair style), and some proof that you do things and have friends. Unless it's top 1% natty physic. Lean is most important, and having at least calisthenics level muscles (small muscles) but bigger muscles will also do well.



Being lean (10% bf) makes your face look better. More angular and more attractive.

Have you ever gotten to 10% bf? You get so much more attention than 15% it's crazy.



But it's step in the right direction. More steps in that direction, and you will eventually get a hot gf.

Let's take a metaphor. Your goal is to walk to your mailbox. The mailbox represents having a girlfriend you find attractive.

What the op is essentially arguing is, If I'm five steps away, taking three steps won't work because I still won't have arrived at the mailbox.

Well no shit, you keep taking steps and eventually you arrive at the mailbox (your goal of getting a hot gf).

Op mostly doesn't believe in all the options available to him. Softmax, Surgery, Mewing, Jutting, Colored Contacts, Skin-maxing, Hair-maxing (advanced hair piece if it doesn't work), game (ability to be funny, charming, captivating, makes people want to be around you which gives you more of a chance), throwing parties, having money to live an exciting active lifestyle that girls want to be part of, Voice surgery for a deeper voice, Vocal practice for a more seductive voice, and so on. (I gate keep, but there's more solutions out there).

"None of those things work if you're sub-4". No-shit, that's why you combine all of them. You don't get to your goal by taking a couple steps and then giving up. You walk all the way to your goal.

high iq user

 

[watah]

 

[SubMogger]

If you're even CONSIDERING getting below 15% bodyfat (not saying to be fat, just saying getting MORE lean would be useless) KYS.

Being lean predates that you have at least a good, high-tier norman face (HTN). If you're not a HTN then being 5%, 10%, 15%+ all are equal.

You won't start getting hookups and girls eyeballing you because you got abs if your face isn't meeting the looks threshold, which is 5+ PSL.

This is for GENERAL appeal, not "NICHE" appeal. To attract girls/women GENERALLY, being lean is useless if your face is not over a 5 PSL.

The floor is yours, so enjoy wasting your time trying to prove anything I've said otherwise.

*this isn't saying to be high bodyfat -- it's saying no point in being SHREDDED/sub 15%

Yeah I noticed when I lost weight it only made me high mtn. Life was better for sure and it also helped me get a girlfriend for some time but it wasn't worth it for me. Went back to the same eating patterns. After all i'm a 5'5 boneless ethnic

 

[looks>books]

not super attractive but im 30% bf and I get approached frequently. I am 6'4ish and have like a really unique eye colour tho

Maybe thats why

 

[recai iskender]

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