The commonly quoted "looks" and "personality" chart from OkCupid is stupid af

[lilhorizontal32]

Always cage when people post this to show the supposedly massive halo that Chad gets, and how no matter what people will see his personality as better than a normie's. But what they fail to mention is that these ratings are based purely off of a dating profile

THE HALO EFFECT FROM THIS IS NOT AS LARGE IN REAL LIFE.

People see Chad as having a better personality, but not THAT much better. I know enough LTNs, and normies with large social circles and are statusmaxxed (in the most popular social circles at high school/college) to disprove this. If you are not a truecel, and are charismatic then you will be seen to have a good personality.

And on top of that, even women themselves say that they "hate the fact that they go for badboys/toxic/emotionally unavailable men"

This study is cope for not developing your personality & charisma/socialmaxxing

 

[tulasdanslos]

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[Deleted member 5185]

Remember that girls dgaf about a "good" personality, only a "high status" personality.

 

[ReignsChad]

They only care about looks

 

[lilhorizontal32]

They only care about looks

personality still matters for statusmaxxing. just thought that Id post this to stop LTNs and up from feeling discouraged from putting themselves out there/socialising because socialcircle is one of the best ways to meet girls

 

[loksr]

I have people telling me I’m very smart even though I don’t do anything to suggest that I am

I have people telling me I’m very caring and kind when I REALLY don’t do anything to suggest THAT, I’m closer to the opposite tbh

I have people telling me I have a “presence with people” when I barely talk to people, don’t initiate conversations etc etc

I’ve had girls call me a “real man” in direct comparison to other men before, when, I’ll be honest those dudes were way better than me in terms of life choices etc for no reason other than what I look like

I’m not even a chad, not even close in my opinion, I’m just above average. Now go and just imagine what an actual CHAD gets, I can’t even picture it

 

[lilhorizontal32]

I have people telling me I’m very smart even though I don’t do anything to suggest that I am

I have people telling me I’m very caring and kind when I REALLY don’t do anything to suggest THAT, I’m closer to the opposite tbh

I have people telling me I have a “presence with people” when I barely talk to people, don’t initiate conversations etc etc

I’ve had girls call me a “real man” in direct comparison to other men before, when, I’ll be honest those dudes were way better than me in terms of life choices etc for no reason other than what I look like

I’m not even a chad, not even close in my opinion, I’m just above average. Now go and just imagine what an actual CHAD gets, I can’t even picture it

damn. does it happen often though or are these like one-off instances

 

[loksr]

damn. does it happen often though or are these like one-off instances

Often enough for me to have that many stories about it

Pretty much everybody I meet will call me smart and/or caring/kind in a positive way
The “real man” shit isn’t common (which is expected, who tf even says that)
And the “presence with people” amount is in between those two

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Often enough for me to have that many stories about it

Pretty much everybody I meet will call me smart and/or caring/kind in a positive way
The “real man” shit isn’t common (which is expected, who tf even says that)
And the “presence with people” amount is in between those two

over for this thread then jfl

but damn mirin if true. have you had any crazy experiences like superiors treating you better than other people at your level (coaches, bosses, teachers etc.) and do guys more readily want to be friends with you?

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Women don't want an asswipe and never have, they just put up with him because there is a shortage of what they all desire: a confident, dominant man who is kindhearted and sweet but also not afraid to go from 0-101 and get violent against aggressors if need be; and it's just that you usually see such assholish men openly embracing their masculinity and living according to their whims rather than some balding reddit milquetoast cuck with an "I'M WITH HER" sticker slapped to his Apple laptop, living in sheer terror of his masculine urges and dominant desires to the point that all his actions and behaviours render him some sort of uncanny weirdo where you can feel the soy and estrogen emanating from his every pore, but you can also sense the underlying tension of male aggression, thus creating the typical "creep" that sets off every female's internal threat detector.

Women hate this sort of guy. Don't be this sort of guy.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Remember that girls dgaf about a "good" personality, only a "high status" personality.

They give a shit about personality, it's just that, like good looks, a good personality is also extremely hard to find, and usually is correlated with being Chad, because Chad is the sort of person who does what the hell he wants and lives according to his own whims (which really brings a 'chicken or the egg' question to the forefront of what exactly it is that makes Chad, since I believe that physiognomy is real and personality influences your looks).


Don't be yourself: Yourself is lame. Instead, think of the kind of man you would admire and want to emulate, and be him instead.

 

[loksr]

over for this thread then jfl

but damn mirin if true. have you had any crazy experiences like superiors treating you better than other people at your level (coaches, bosses, teachers etc.) and do guys more readily want to be friends with you?

I live big time loser lifestyle, never went to school

Whenever I have had teachers for anything they end up loving me, they always want to be my friend outside of teaching, they give me special treatment etc. one time I had a piano teacher and she was struggling with herself whether she should invite me back to her house to feed me, she was in her 60s, tbh I don’t know whether she wanted to fuck me or whether she wanted to just be nice to me, either way though

if I’m in any environment where I’m around the same people for good amounts of time, people will always come to me trying to get to know me, men and women

i know I’m coming off as a douche here but I just want to emphasize that the halo effect is VERY real, and remember I’m not even a chad

 

[Deleted member 5185]

They give a shit about personality, it's just that, like good looks, a good personality is also extremely hard to find, and usually is correlated with being Chad, because Chad is the sort of person who does what the hell he wants and lives according to his own whims (which really brings a 'chicken or the egg' question to the forefront of what exactly it is that makes Chad, since I believe that physiognomy is real and personality influences your looks).


Don't be yourself: Yourself is lame. Instead, think of the kind of man you would admire and want to emulate, and be him instead.

Exactly but in this case, you're defining "good" personality as "high status" personality.

Most people when you say what constitutes a "good" personality would defined it as kind, supportive, flexible, a good listener, even tempered, mild mannered etc. Basically things that helps no man in any relationships.

A high status personality is, as you say, more like someone who lives according to his own whims, true to his goals, inflexible and assertive, willing to do what it takes etc.

As for physiognomy, the problem is that at least in my view, there is a way more obvious explanation:

- A person has a set of genetics that creates certain physical traits and personality traits
- They correlate (high T = certain physical traits & personality traits) but the physical traits obviously cannot influence the personality traits or vice versa, they are both symptoms of the persons genetics
- Thus you can look at a group of people and say that certain physical features are correlated with certain personality features in general
- Lack of correlation may be rare but possible through significant environmental impact

edit: didn't see the post you wrote before jfl

 

[UltimateMan]

What is it with all these bluepilled threads lately?

 

[lilhorizontal32]

I live big time loser lifestyle, never went to school

Whenever I have had teachers for anything they end up loving me, they always want to be my friend outside of teaching, they give me special treatment etc. one time I had a piano teacher and she was struggling with herself whether she should invite me back to her house to feed me, she was in her 60s, tbh I don’t know whether she wanted to fuck me or whether she wanted to just be nice to me, either way though

if I’m in any environment where I’m around the same people for good amounts of time, people will always come to me trying to get to know me, men and women

i know I’m coming off as a douche here but I just want to emphasize that the halo effect is VERY real, and remember I’m not even a chad

eye-opening af tbh

and nah not a brag at all, glad to hear it. to some extent takes the burden of maintaing a certain social mask off when you know that its not your personality thats the problem

 

[loksr]

eye-opening af tbh

and nah not a brag at all, glad to hear it. to some extent takes the burden of maintaing a certain social mask off when you know that its not your personality thats the problem

Yeah I’ve had this shit since literal childhood, I was lucky cause it meant I never believed in the personality meme, it’s hard to when people apply all these traits to you that are the opposite of how you are and how you act.

just focus on looksmaxxing and don’t behave autistically (unless you’re giga goodlooking) and you’re all set tbh

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Yeah I’ve had this shit since literal childhood, I was lucky cause it meant I never believed in the personality meme, it’s hard to when people apply all these traits to you that are the opposite of how you are and how you act.

just focus on looksmaxxing and don’t behave autistically (unless you’re giga goodlooking) and you’re all set tbh

appreciate the insight. and yes have been leanmaxxing and I think Im starting to get treated slightly better (might be in my head tho who knows)

 

[loksr]

appreciate the insight. and yes have been leanmaxxing and I think Im starting to get treated slightly better (might be in my head tho who knows)

It’s probably not in your head
Leanmaxxing is legit, very very legit

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Yeah I’ve had this shit since literal childhood, I was lucky cause it meant I never believed in the personality meme, it’s hard to when people apply all these traits to you that are the opposite of how you are and how you act.

just focus on looksmaxxing and don’t behave autistically (unless you’re giga goodlooking) and you’re all set tbh

also Im curious - any chance you could pm a photo? I will maintain your privacy of course

 

[lilhorizontal32]

It’s probably not in your head
Leanmaxxing is legit, very very legit

crazy seeing the blackpill playout in real life.

also jeans have started to look a lot nicer on me, and have been fashionmaxxing a bit so it might have something to do with it

 

[loksr]

also Im curious - any chance you could pm a photo? I will maintain your privacy of course

Maybe eventually but I really don’t want any association of my face with this website

for now just know that I’m above average but nothing really special at all, don’t even have light eyes or anything

 

[court monarch777]

you just need more PSL to have a better personality

 

[KraftDurchLeid]

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Always cage when people post this to show the supposedly massive halo that Chad gets, and how no matter what people will see his personality as better than a normie's. But what they fail to mention is that these ratings are based purely off of a dating profile

THE HALO EFFECT FROM THIS IS NOT AS LARGE IN REAL LIFE.

People see Chad as having a better personality, but not THAT much better. I know enough LTNs, and normies with large social circles and are statusmaxxed (in the most popular social circles at high school/college) to disprove this. If you are not a truecel, and are charismatic then you will be seen to have a good personality.

And on top of that, even women themselves say that they "hate the fact that they go for badboys/toxic/emotionally unavailable men"

This study is cope for not developing your personality & charisma/socialmaxxing

the most brutal thing about this is that there aren‘t any exceptions, not one ugly guy could make up for his looks with personality. None. Nada.

 

[pizza]

Amateur​

JoinedJan 21, 2021Posts370Reputation401Time online14d 24m

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JFL

 

[Deleted member 5185]

the most brutal thing about this is that there aren‘t any exceptions, not one ugly guy could make up for his looks with personality. None. Nada.

Girls just want a mans status. A personality can only convey aka fraud a certain status. If your looks, status or wallet doesn't match your conveyed personality, then it is simply disregarded.

A lot of bluepilled guys grow up thinking that as long as you're a nice guy, eventually some girl will want to be with you. When that eventually does happen, they think its because they're nice. But of course what actually happened is that as the years went on, their standards for dating went down year by year, and eventually they started dating someone below their SMV.

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Maybe eventually but I really don’t want any association of my face with this website

Understandable ngl

 

[lilhorizontal32]

the most brutal thing about this is that there aren‘t any exceptions, not one ugly guy could make up for his looks with personality. None. Nada.

Yeah in online dating though.
In real life if you can handle yourself well socially sometimes you’ll get a shot

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Maybe eventually but I really don’t want any association of my face with this website

for now just know that I’m above average but nothing really special at all, don’t even have light eyes or anything

And yeah post more stories like these if you have some. Would defs be interested to hear

 

[KraftDurchLeid]

Yeah in online dating though.
In real life if you can handle yourself well socially sometimes you’ll get a shot

 

[lilhorizontal32]

I’ve seen LTNs/Normies punch up by taking control of a social situation with their charisma and becoming the leader of the group.
Rare but it can happen

 

[Deleted member 1332]

the most brutal thing about this is that there aren‘t any exceptions, not one ugly guy could make up for his looks with personality. None. Nada.

Holy shit, never thought about it like that. The graph has some serious implications, that just confirm the blackpill.

Even though its just more water, that's a nuclear blackpill for anyone who thinks personality plays a significant role in attractiveness. Personality only matters once you're in the door, and only looks get you to and in the door. This graph shows that the way men and women perceive looks and personality are functionally identical when it really comes down to making real choices.

 

[IdiAmin]

Damn, you just want that blue color cuz this is another thread when you basically write "personality matters" lmao

 

[Deleted member 9467]

cope

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Damn, you just want that blue color cuz this is another thread when you basically write "personality matters" lmao

I don’t care about reacts

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

comedians get all the pussy

 

[lilhorizontal32]

comedians get all the pussy

They’d get more pussy than if they weren’t funny sure. But they still can’t compete with rockstars/rappers etc.

this thread is more people who want to statusmaxx and get all the benefits associated with that, but think they need to be Chad first

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

They’d get more pussy than if they weren’t funny sure. But they still can’t compete with rockstars/rappers etc.

this thread is more people who want to statusmaxx and get all the benefits associated with that, but think they need to be Chad first

they get no pussy, they are jestermaxxers

 

[lilhorizontal32]

they get no pussy, they are jestermaxxers

No they do on occasion, but it’s really not much. Beats getting nothing though

 

[IdiAmin]

I don’t care about reacts

You got a different color of your nickname after making enough posts, not after getting enough reacts lmao true greycel

 

[APJ]

Most people have used this chart to show that 'someone's perception of how good you look determines their perception of how good your personality is' but in fact the chart could be shown to support the inverse, too...

 

[Chinacurry]

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And on top of that, even women themselves say that they "hate the fact that they go for badboys/toxic/emotionally unavailable men"

This line just sums up foids jfl

 

[Lolcel]

I live big time loser lifestyle, never went to school

Whenever I have had teachers for anything they end up loving me, they always want to be my friend outside of teaching, they give me special treatment etc. one time I had a piano teacher and she was struggling with herself whether she should invite me back to her house to feed me, she was in her 60s, tbh I don’t know whether she wanted to fuck me or whether she wanted to just be nice to me, either way though

if I’m in any environment where I’m around the same people for good amounts of time, people will always come to me trying to get to know me, men and women

i know I’m coming off as a douche here but I just want to emphasize that the halo effect is VERY real, and remember I’m not even a chad

Can you pm a pic? I'm curious to what looks level makes this sort of treatment actually happen

 

[Lolcel]

Girls just want a mans status. A personality can only convey aka fraud a certain status. If your looks, status or wallet doesn't match your conveyed personality, then it is simply disregarded.

A lot of bluepilled guys grow up thinking that as long as you're a nice guy, eventually some girl will want to be with you. When that eventually does happen, they think its because they're nice. But of course what actually happened is that as the years went on, their standards for dating went down year by year, and eventually they started dating someone below their SMV.

Exactly
The type of normies or HTN who think that it was some virtue of their personality character that got them into the relationship are completely oblivious
Like especially that one guy who some flaws and not your typical chad and goes on "See , im not goodlooking but still have a loving partner , you incels are just mysoginist blah blah" also got selected for some TRAIT he had (that could be his tall height , good face , nice eyes , race , status etc) but he is oblivious to it , and even his partner is in most cases too
Personality is really the most less important thing when it comes to attraction but the bluepill will spread knowing no bounds....

 

[Deleted member 10330]

I’ve seen LTNs/Normies punch up by taking control of a social situation with their charisma and becoming the leader of the group.
Rare but it can happen

Thats just in high school and drunk parties. In the real world the statusmaxed normies are thrown in the bin