The Criteria for Whiteness has Gone Up

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Multiple times in my life as a kid white people have tried to convince me I'm one of them.


In the environment I grew up in, the ethnic composition was fairly binary—most immigrants were either Polish (unambiguously white), Pakistani (clearly brown), or, on rare occasions, Black. As a Kabyle Algerian—same ethnicity as Zinedine Zidane—I found myself in a liminal space. I wasn’t quite brown, but I wasn’t white either. I recall my father once telling me quite bluntly that I am not white and that white people would never truly accept me. At the time, I found this perplexing, but in retrospect, his words are understandable, especially after observing how many Algerians desperately assert “saar I am white saar.”


Interestingly, my father wasn’t entirely correct. On numerous occasions during my youth, whiteness was ascribed to me, almost forcibly, by white peers. One moment stands out from secondary school: I mentioned to a friend that I wasn’t Scottish. A so-called “popular” (delinquent) student overheard and interjected—“What are you then?” I replied, “Algerian.” He immediately asked, “Were you born there?” When I said no, he retorted, “You’re basically Scottish, mate.” Another joined in, reinforcing this unsolicited assimilation. Similar scenes played out in primary school. When I once described myself as “tan”—the only word I had at the time to represent my in-between identity—a classmate immediately shut it down with a flat, “You’re white, mate,” as if to say: Stop trying to be different.

Rise in Migrant stories and it's Result on who's percieved as white.
Fast-forward to around 2022, and the sociocultural landscape had transformed dramatically. Media coverage on migration surged—saturated with sensationalist headlines: “Algerian migrant stabs French boy,” “Algerian asylum seeker assaults young girl.” As a child, when I told people I was Algerian, they’d often mishear it as “Nigerian” and were perplexed by my lack of Blackness. Now, when I say I’m Algerian, there’s no confusion—everyone knows. And interestingly, when I state that I’m not white today, no one challenges it. In fact, I strongly suspect that if I did claim whiteness now, the same people who once insisted I was white would correct me: “No, you’re not.”


I don’t mind no longer being seen as white—identity is not something I feel compelled to police—but it’s fascinating to observe how perceptions of race shift under the influence of media and sociopolitical narratives. What qualifies as "white" is far more fluid—and manipulated—than many would like to admit.


Just to say, My parents are not immigrants, they are well off, they just made me grow up in Scotland because Algerian school qualificaitons can only get you into an international university if you get giga great results whilst for UK, you just need good results. I am probably in Scotland only 2 months of the year during spring/summer to visit friends.
So please no save evropa shit in replies

TL;DR:


Growing up Kabyle Algerian, I was often told by white peers that I was “basically one of them,” despite not identifying as white or brown. My father warned me that whiteness would never fully accept me. Over time, especially since the rise in negative media around migrants, perceptions shifted. Now, people accept that I’m not white—and would likely reject me if I claimed to be.
 
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Slav = chad + agarthan
 
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Algerians are not white. Idk where your from where they say that shit.
 
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Algerians are not white. Idk where your from where they say that shit.
I don't think you actually read the post because I say over and over how I don't believe that I'm white or see myself as white at all
 
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I don't think you actually read the post because I say over and over how I don't believe that I'm white or see myself as white at all
I read it. I was just confused when people said to you that your white even though your algerian. I've never ever seen this happen in my country. Where are you from?
 
Algerians are not white. Idk where your from where they say that shit.

some Algerians can be white passing ethnics

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I read it. I was just confused when people said to you that your white even though your algerian. Where are you from?
I said I grew up in Scotland thrice in the post. I also said that the reason I believe they piled me in as white is because people who look like me are extremely rare and the only other non white ethnicities at the time were Pakistanis and Black. I believe they looked at the Pakistani boys in the class and then looked at me and decided I looked closer to them than the Pakis
 
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some Algerians can be white passing ethnics

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This isn't white at all lol. No such thing as white passing, you're either white or you're not. I look "whiter" than this girl. You're probably an ethnic and need to cope. Just accept your ethnic-ity
 
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I said I grew up in Scotland thrice in the post. I also said that the reason I believe they piled me in as white is because people who look like me are extremely rare and the only other non white ethnicities at the time were Pakistanis and Black. I believe they looked at the Pakistani boys in the class and then looked at me and decided I looked closer to them than the Pakis
(y). Sry didn't catch that scottish part. Mi inglesias is baad saar.
 
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That can pass as southern euro. Anything above northern italy never.

She definitely has ethnic lips and eye area but yeah, she could even pass for a brazilian mutt

This isn't white at all lol. No such thing as white passing, you're either white or you're not. I look "whiter" than this girl. You're probably an ethnic and need to cope. Just accept your ethnic-ity

White isnt just blonde hair nordics, plus ask any SFcel if they would breed with her and 99% would say yes
 
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This isn't white at all lol. No such thing as white passing, you're either white or you're not. I look "whiter" than this girl. You're probably an ethnic and need to cope. Just accept your ethnic-ity
Truth. You can just see who's ethnic and who's not jfl.
 
White isnt just blonde hair nordics, plus ask any SFcel if they would breed with her and 99% would say yes
In my country it is. Here most people consider you ethnic if you have black eyes and dark hair.
 
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Slav = chad + agarthan
those who claimed slavs arent white are still around? i heard the leader had to take a pill to sleep good night XD
 
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She definitely has ethnic lips and eye area but yeah, she could even pass for a brazilian mutt



White isnt just blonde hair nordics, plus ask any SFcel if they would breed with her and 99% would say yes
Yes I know, there were white people in my class with black hair and brown eyes.
If I walked past her in Algeria: *wouldn't bat an eye*
If I walked past her in Scotland: "she looks ethinc"
Kabyles are the whitest looking Algerians btw (still not white) and she looks arab Algerian, you could've picked a better example
 
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those who claimed slavs arent white are still around? i heard the leader had to take a pill to sleep good night XD
He got gyno for 3 days from it
 
Zizou looks quite white but isn’t he only half Algerian ?
 
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balkan and italy are white
 
I read it. I was just confused when people said to you that your white even though your algerian. I've never ever seen this happen in my country. Where are you from?
Some are passable like Zinedine Zidane. They’re not Europeans though.
 
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