The Curious Case of Bengalis

[Chadeep]

What's the difference between @Lightskin Ethnic and @SecularIslamist Apart from Religion

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

@SecularIslamist

Here's a Chittagong sample (the components are named after the group it peaks in) on HarappaWorld (breaks down the genetic data into ancient parts):

S-Indian: 46%
Baloch: 27%
Caucasian: 1.71%
NE-Euro: 4.51%
SE-Asian: 7.87%
NE-Asian: 6.12%.

That's basically 14% East Asian admixture.

Spoiler: Source

Here's a Sylheti sample:

S-Indian: 45.78%
Baloch: 25.54%
Caucasian: 3.86%
NE-Euro: 4.2%
SE-Asian: 7.39%
NE-Asian: 5.31%

Spoiler: Source 2

Another Sylheti sample:

S-Indian: 48.24%
Baloch: 28.37%
Caucasian: 0%
NE-Euro: 3.19%
SE-Asian: 9.15%
NE-Asian: 6.05%

Spoiler: Source 3

Another Sylheti sample:

This is a sample not from either two regions, but an Islamic Bengali:

Sylhetis and Chittagongis to seem to have lower S-Indian compared to others but not by much, like a 5% difference. Which isn't enough for you to be placed drastically different. I think you'd just go further up because eastern Bengalis seem to have more East Asian ancestry (which makes sense because you literally border SEA).

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

What's the difference between @Lightskin Ethnic and @SecularIslamist Apart from Religion

@Lightskin Ethnic is a West Bengali Brahmin, his ancestors migrated from elsewhere. In terms of the PCA plot, he would cluster where the Kshatriyas and Punjabis are.

@SecularIslamist is a Bengali from Bangladesh (East Bengal).

They're going to have different genetic make-up. Brahmins from all region seem to cluster together which makes sense because they descended from the same place.

 

[Rothschild]

This was a very high IQ informative thread good job gengar

 

[Lefty Rankin]

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This is a South Asian genetic PCA plot, with a focus on specifically Indians, Sri Lankans and Bengalis. You appear here on the basis of DNA.

If you look at the picture, you will notice that Bengalis are pulled away from other Indians (especially Dravidians, since Gujaratis and Punjabis are North Indians) and Sri Lankans. This is because they have significant East Asian admixture from a Tibetan source that Indians (both South Indians and North Indians) and Sri Lankans lack.

In other words, the only reason that Bengalis aren't clustering with Indians and Sri Lankans is because they have East Asian DNA. If it weren't for that admixture, they'd cluster exactly with Indians and Sri Lankans.

I've always heard Bengali women are often extremely hot.

 

[eBoy_]

@Lightskin Ethnic is a West Bengali Brahmin, his ancestors migrated from elsewhere. In terms of the PCA plot, he would cluster where the Kshatriyas and Punjabis are.

@SecularIslamist is a Bengali from Bangladesh (East Bengal).

They're going to have different genetic make-up. Brahmins from all region seem to cluster together which makes sense because they descended from the same place.

did you ever do a DNA test?

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

What's the difference between @Lightskin Ethnic and @SecularIslamist Apart from Religion

@SecularIslamist
@Gengar

I'm a Brahmin

My past 13 ancestors as recorded, where from Mymen Singh (Father's side) then Barishal (Mother's side)

During 1947, we came to West Bengal slums

Maybe that's why I dont look like a Pajeet

 

[vernier]

Most punjabis are Dravidians

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Lmao I'm literally listening podcasts on biology not necessarily from a genetic / racial perspective (more investment / tech based).

The difference is I don't drone on about genetics and even care about it as much as people on here because it's just another cope. If we were Dravidians I'd be the first to admit it. We look Indian more than any other group outside India so why wouldn't I admit this?


Yeah I googled level of AASI / ANI. Do you ever use Google? Nothing proves what you say anyway.

You don't care about genetics because you're dead-set on racemixing anyway, JFL.

And no, you clearly didn't google it because you said "it says 40-50% ASI" when it really said 40-50% AASI.

I've literally proved my point a couple of times, that you don't acknowledge doesn't mean it hasn't been proven.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

@SecularIslamist
@Gengar

I'm a Brahmin

My past 13 ancestors as recorded, where from Mymen Singh (Father's side) then Barishal (Mother's side)

During 1947, we came to West Bengal slums

Maybe that's why I dont look like a Pajeet

Hymen Singh?

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Most punjabis are Dravidians

There's a bunch that are, but can't put it in numbers. Especially because they just identify as Punjabi.

 

[SecularIslamist]

@SecularIslamist

Here's a Chittagong sample (the components are named after the group it peaks in) on HarappaWorld (breaks down the genetic data into ancient parts):

S-Indian: 46%
Baloch: 27%
Caucasian: 1.71%
NE-Euro: 4.51%
SE-Asian: 7.87%
NE-Asian: 6.12%.

That's basically 14% East Asian admixture.

Spoiler: Source

View attachment 4304959

Here's a Sylheti sample:

S-Indian: 45.78%
Baloch: 25.54%
Caucasian: 3.86%
NE-Euro: 4.2%
SE-Asian: 7.39%
NE-Asian: 5.31%

Spoiler: Source 2

View attachment 4304969

Another Sylheti sample:

S-Indian: 48.24%
Baloch: 28.37%
Caucasian: 0%
NE-Euro: 3.19%
SE-Asian: 9.15%
NE-Asian: 6.05%

Spoiler: Source 3

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Another Sylheti sample:

View attachment 4304981

This is a sample not from either two regions, but an Islamic Bengali:

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Sylhetis and Chittagongis to seem to have lower S-Indian compared to others but not by much, like a 5% difference. Which isn't enough for you to be placed drastically different. I think you'd just go further up because eastern Bengalis seem to have more East Asian ancestry (which makes sense because you literally border SEA).

And are the admixtures of Punjabs, Pashtuns or Balochs any different? You seem to be having South Indian genetics with being dravidian? Even if those groups have lower than Bengalis that doesn't make them Dravidian either despite the association. You're just making an unwarranted stretch like usual. If you mix brown and yellow - or any other colours for that matter, you no longer have either.

I could say the same to a Turk - if he removes the Turkic and Anatolian genetics he's now greek. If I remove the greek and Turkic genes he's now Anatolian. What nonsense logic.

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

Hymen Singh?

Also Bengalis (both Indian and Bangladesh) look more pajeety than central Indians

So it doesn't matter

 

[SecularIslamist]

Also Bengalis (both Indian and Bangladesh) look more pajeety than central Indians

So it doesn't matter

In the West Id agree and generally we do look more Indian than other countries - excluding Sri Lankans that looks straight up pajeet. But This line (river) is where you get a difference. It's still subtle but noticeable enough.

 

[SecularIslamist]

You don't care about genetics because you're dead-set on racemixing anyway, JFL.

And no, you clearly didn't google it because you said "it says 40-50% ASI" when it really said 40-50% AASI.

I've literally proved my point a couple of times, that you don't acknowledge doesn't mean it hasn't been proven.

What did you prove? You're calling everyone Dravidian at this point irrespective of how ridiculous it sounds so not even gonna bother anymore.

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

In the West Id agree and generally we do look more Indian than other countries - excluding Sri Lankans that looks straight up pajeet. But This line (river) is where you get a difference. It's still subtle but noticeable enough.

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Maybe
My both side ancestors came from east Bangladesh

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

And are the admixtures of Punjabs, Pashtuns or Balochs any different? You seem to be having South Indian genetics with being dravidian? Even if those groups have lower than Bengalis that doesn't make them Dravidian either despite the association. You're just making an unwarranted stretch like usual. If you mix brown and yellow - or any other colours for that matter, you no longer have either.

I could say the same to a Turk - if he removes the Turkic and Anatolian genetics he's now greek. If I remove the greek and Turkic genes he's now Anatolian. What nonsense logic.

Yes, of course theirs are different. I'll show you where the Baloch cluster. Baloch have less than 10% AASI btw.

The Baloch cluster with the Brahui (linguistically Dravidian, Iranic genetically). However, this South Asian PCA plot also includes non-South Asians, like Central Asians (Pamiri and Yaghnobis from Tajikistan).

Ok, even if you don't want to picture yourself without East Asian blood, you still cluster on the side where ethnic South Indians and Sri Lankans are. The Baloch don't do that at all, they're closer to Central Asian populations. That's why it's silly to call Baloch South Asian.

@JohnDoe

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Also Bengalis (both Indian and Bangladesh) look more pajeety than central Indians

So it doesn't matter

How is that? XD

 

[SecularIslamist]

Yes, of course theirs are different. I'll show you where the Baloch cluster. Baloch have less than 10% AASI btw.

The Baloch cluster with the Brahui (linguistically Dravidian, Iranic genetically). However, this South Asian PCA plot also includes non-South Asians, like Central Asians (Pamiri and Yaghnobis from Tajikistan).

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Ok, even if you don't want to picture yourself without East Asian blood, you still cluster on the side where ethnic South Indians and Sri Lankans are. The Baloch don't do that at all, they're closer to Central Asian populations. That's why it's silly to call Baloch South Asian.

@JohnDoe

Is your logic the more AASI the more Dravidian? All.south Asians have aasi and Pakistanis / Bengalis have other admixtures and relative degrees.

You're making no sense. You want to use facts - which you do. But also want to distort them to create pseudo-theories like 'wothout east Asians admixture Bengalis would be Dravidians because look at AASI ancestry". If you want to argue counterfactuals than go ahead. But like I said 100 replies ago Bengalis, and by the same token Punjabs, Balochs, Pashtuns are not Dravidians. It's ridiculous to claim on the basis on shared ancestry even if it's higher for Bengalis than Balochs or Punjab's.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

This was a very high IQ informative thread good job gengar

Thanks bhaijaan! Didn’t see this until now.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I've always heard Bengali women are often extremely hot.

They are, I heard they have better bodies compared to other South Asians.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

did you ever do a DNA test?

Yes, I did. Why do you ask?

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

How is that? XD

Us Bengalis are shitskin swarthy manlets with fragile frames, weak skulls

Wtf we eat so much fish n meat than many vegcuck Indians
Where does all of it go

Punjabi bvlls take our women and beat us

I'm literally Chadlite in BENGALISTAN
(An Exception for a Bangali)
Because im not a Bengali by blood

@MiserableMan

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Us Bengalis are shitskin swarthy manlets with fragile frames, weak skulls

Legit, @SecularIslamist is a manlet.

Wtf we eat so much fish n meat than many vegcuck Indians

Yeah, I heard. I’m not really a fan of fish. It’s probably because of the Bay of Bengal.

Punjabi bvlls take our women and beat us

Things that never happened, JFL.

I'm literally Chadlite in BENGALISTAN

Legit. I’m truecel anywhere.

 

[vernier]

There's a bunch that are, but can't put it in numbers. Especially because they just identify as Punjabi.

This is the dead average bro

Sometimes they'll have this type of salludon lite

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

This is the dead average bro
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Sometimes they'll have this type of salludon lite
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I have much darker family members than that.

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

Legit, @SecularIslamist is a manlet.

Yeah, I heard. I’m not really a fan of fish. It’s probably because of the Bay of Bengal.

Things that never happened, JFL.

Legit. I’m truecel anywhere.

I literally need to breed more Punjabi girls

I need to take revenge

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I literally need to breed more Punjabi girls

I need to take revenge

Revenge for what?

Punjabis didn’t do anything in Bangladesh. You’re talking about Mukti Bahini (created, funded, trained by India). They were probably Bengalis themselves, lol.

 

[lastofus123]

Y'all look about as subhuman as each other, so I dont see whats even the point of seperating yourselves, all of yall are brown

 

[vernier]

I have much darker family members than that.

Yeah, one of my friend from rwp looks more darker than the average, it was hard to believe he was from rwp

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Y'all look about as subhuman as each other, so I dont see whats even the point of seperating yourselves, all of yall are brown

Because the world doesn’t revolve your viewpoint, it has no basis in science. Yes, we’re all brown, but there’s a difference between phenotype and genotype.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Yeah, one of my friend from rwp looks more darker than the average, it was hard to believe he was from rwp

Haha yeah, we’re a diverse bunch. I like it a lot.

But even though they look dark, it doesn’t mean they have high AASI. That’s because phenotype =/= genotype.

You have high Steppe Jats from Haryana who look like the typical North Indian. It’s quite funny.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

@Lightskin Ethnic Bhai do you have autism? You’re always JFLing my serious posts.

 

[eBoy_]

Yes, I did. Why do you ask?

what were the results (if you don't mind me asking)

Just interested, no particular reason mainly because of the whole dry earwax and east asian genes thing, although I can see the east asian genetics part was satire.

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

@Lightskin Ethnic Bhai do you have autism? You’re always JFLing my serious posts.

No because in the end we are all brown jeets irrespective of anything

We look the same to non-curries unless a few of us that look ambiguous (less than 10%)

I mean u only distinguish Jeremy Meeks from an African tribal

Rest u wont be able to tell who is from Ghana and who is from Kenya

They all loom Black

We also can't distinguish who is Swedish and who is Norwegian

Infact I'd even say Irish n Swedish

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

what were the results (if you don't mind me asking)

Just interested, no particular reason mainly because of the whole dry earwax and east asian genes thing, although I can see the east asian genetics part was satire.

Hmm. What results exactly are you asking for? The AncestryDNA results were absolutely dogshit haha. XD

I think I got the dry earwax from the SAHG (South Asian Hunter-Gatherers; a simulated component since we don’t have their remains, it’s purely theoretical). They say that SAHG is distantly related to East Eurasians.

According to one qpAdm model (with a p-value of 0.3267; any p-value greater than 0.05 means the model is good).

I’ve got 22.64% Steppe, 53.10% Iran_N and 25.76% SAHG.

I also discovered I have zero Steppe haplogroups, and the high Steppe people in South Asia do have Steppe haplogroups, so with that in mind, I do have a lot of Steppe even though it’s 22.64% (Gangetic populations usually score 30+% Steppe, but in the case of Bengalis, that’s replaced with Tibetan ancestry, so they have 10% Steppe instead).

In other words, 75% of my DNA is West Eurasian (Iran_N, Steppe) and 25% of my DNA is East Eurasian (SAHG).

@decadouche57 Now you know my ancient breakdown as well. I think you asked me before or perhaps it was someone else.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

No because in the end we are all brown jeets irrespective of anything

We look the same to non-curries unless a few of us that look ambiguous (less than 10%)

I mean u only distinguish Jeremy Meeks from an African tribal

Rest u wont be able to tell who is from Ghana and who is from Kenya

Same for us, we also can distinguish who is Swedish and who is from Norwegian

Why do you care what outsiders think?

I’m not going to say we’re all the same because we look the same just because Jimmy from the slums of the west says so.

 

[eBoy_]

Hmm. What results exactly are you asking for? The AncestryDNA results were absolutely dogshit haha. XD

I think I got the dry earwax from the SAHG (South Asian Hunter-Gatherers; a simulated component since we don’t have their remains, it’s purely theoretical). They say that SAHG is distantly related to East Eurasians.

According to one qpAdm model (with a p-value of 0.3267; any p-value greater than 0.05 means the model is good).

I’ve got 22.64% Steppe, 53.10% Iran_N and 25.76% SAHG.

I also discovered I have zero Steppe haplogroups, and the high Steppe people in South Asia do have Steppe haplogroups, so with that in mind, I do have a lot of Steppe even though it’s 22.64% (Gangetic populations usually score 30+% Steppe, but in the case of Bengalis, that’s replaced with Tibetan ancestry, so they have 10% Steppe instead).

In other words, 75% of my DNA is West Eurasian (Iran_N, Steppe) and 25% of my DNA is East Eurasian (SAHG).

@decadouche57 Now you know my ancient breakdown as well. I think you asked me before or perhaps it was someone else.

Thanks for your detailed response, I appreciate it my good man.

and yeah I was mainly asking about ancestry (I should have been more specific)

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Thanks for your detailed response, I appreciate it my good man.

and yeah I was mainly asking about ancestry (I should have been more specific)

You’re welcome, and thanks for reading. I honestly didn’t think I would have dry earwax. I always associated it with East Asians, specifically Koreans. And I always thought how lucky they were to have it. Turns out I have it as well. XD

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

Why do you care what outsiders think?

I’m not going to say we’re all the same because we look the same just because Jimmy from the slums of the west says so.

No we are not the same even if vast most of us overlap and look the same

But it hardly matters

Blackpill is what others think of u

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

No we are not the same ever if vast most of us overlap and look the same

But it hardly matters

Blackpill is what others think of u

That makes you better than most South Asians. Most are doing sem2sem.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Thanks for your detailed response, I appreciate it my good man.

and yeah I was mainly asking about ancestry (I should have been more specific)

I forgot to mention. I tested my relatives. I’m the most SAHG-shifted individual in my family. We are with five, and three have dry earwax, and two don’t - but even those two have reduced smell as a result of being heterogenous for it. One of my siblings is Steppe-shifted and another one who is Iran_N-shifted. It’s pretty cool how each child has their own pull to a certain ancestral source.

 

[Lightskin Ethnic]

That makes you better than most South Asians. Most are doing sem2sem.

No i don't even look like a curry
+
Curries have a fetish for Steppe ancestry thinking its White
(Me too)

But u do get the perspective from an outsiders POV

U know all Asians also look the same to us

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

No i don't even look like a curry
+
Curries have a fetish for Steppe ancestry thinking its White
(Me too)

But u do get the perspective from an outsiders POV

U know all Asians also look the same to us

You look curry af when you wear a kurta. Stick to wearing western clothes.

And yeah, it’s called “Steppe kanging.” But you will find all sorts of kangers, even SAHG/AASI kangers (or copers ). I’m a Zagros kanger.

TBH I do see the difference between East Asians.

 

[Uehdbwidbfngj]

View attachment 4304751

This is a South Asian genetic PCA plot, with a focus on specifically Indians, Sri Lankans and Bengalis. You appear here on the basis of DNA.

If you look at the picture, you will notice that Bengalis are pulled away from other Indians (especially Dravidians, since Gujaratis and Punjabis are North Indians) and Sri Lankans. This is because they have significant East Asian admixture from a Tibetan source that Indians (both South Indians and North Indians) and Sri Lankans lack.

In other words, the only reason that Bengalis aren't clustering with Indians and Sri Lankans is because they have East Asian DNA. If it weren't for that admixture, they'd cluster exactly with Indians and Sri Lankans.

Buy my dna test

 

[mriosip]

What kind? We have a lot of Moroccans here in NL.

moroccan n what is NL

 

[unstable]

Why do you care what outsiders think?

I’m not going to say we’re all the same because we look the same just because Jimmy from the slums of the west says so.

its not tibetan ancestory in bengalis its more from north east and burma.

what kind of pakistani admits to looking like an indian



pakistanis are phenotypically very different from indians.

we are instead genotypically closer because we are the closest population to each other.

pakistani and indian culture is different aswell.

 

[Rothschild]

Thanks bhaijaan! Didn’t see this until now.

its all good bro