The discovery of the METABOLISM world has been the best discovery found in the last years of searching the internet

[everythingmatters]

I have spent the last 3 years looking for information about maxxing stuff.

I can say that I know the internet well, I learned about moneymaxing, fitness community, mgtow, red pill, pua and now blackpill, etc.

And I can say without a doubt that the world of metabolism has been by far the best discovery I have made so far.

The metabolism explains practically everything that happens in your body and makes you realize the great scam that today's diet is, why you can't lose weight, because you have insomnia, because you feel tired all the time, because You are mentally and physically screwed up as shit.

Doctors are a fucking scam, I already knew for a long time but now thanks to this discovery, I can understand even more from the root why they are.

The fitness industry is even more of a scam than I thought, and I'm not saying this because of the fake nattys and genetics, but because of how wrong they are about diet and nutrition. If you don't have very good genetics, follow the advice of those stupid fitness youtuber, the only thing it will do is screw up your metabolism, mind and health.

IMO, improving your metabolism is the first step if you want to get out of inceldom. If your metabolism is shit (like most modern man today) you will not have the energy, the spirits, the mental state, or the physical condition to do the things that are necessary to escape this hell.

Moneymaxing is a must if you need surgery to get ascended, and you will not achieve that goal if your metabolism and hormones are not in your favor.

Some random videos for you to introduce yourself, but this world is very wide:

 

[redhandsbluehands]

 

[Deleted member 275]

talking about weird abstract terms and giving 0 practical advice. But trashing on everyone elses practical advice.

Greycel moment

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I thought metabolism was to do with how much body fat your body burns off. Is it to do with the mind to give more energy?

 

[Britishlooksmaxxer]

Ah greycels when will they learn...

Not a character

 

[ang3l]

u are right

 

[Baldingman1998]

I thought metabolism was to do with how much body fat your body burns off. Is it to do with the mind to give more energy?

Not body fat burning it's how much energy is needed to keep you alive at rest

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Not body fat burning it's how much energy is needed to keep you alive at rest

So high metabolism is good?

 

[St. Wristcel]

eat fruits veggies natural animal proteins and lots of water and count calories to lose weight
you're welcome for giving you the secret to stay healthy

 

[Baldingman1998]

So high metabolism is good?

Yes because it's easier to stay lean. But also bad because you have to keep eating alot to grow and maintain muscle mass(so good if you like eating)

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Yes because it's easier to stay lean. But also bad because you have to keep eating alot to grow and maintain muscle mass(so good if you like eating)

So if I'm skinny, its guaranteed I have high metabolism, and if I'm low energy we can rule out low metabolism being the cause of that?

 

[Baldingman1998]

So if I'm skinny, its guaranteed I have high metabolism, and if I'm low energy we can rule out low metabolism being the cause of that?

No. Some skinny guys just don't eat. It depends tbh

 

[everythingmatters]

eat fruits veggies natural animal proteins and lots of water and count calories to lose weight
you're welcome for giving you the secret to stay healthy

Calories are a scam.

Soon I will do some threads talking about it, I will change the paradigm of some people in this forum.

 

[Sikkunt23]

Not body fat burning it's how much energy is needed to keep you alive at rest

That’s resting/basal metabolic rate . Metabolism is the process of ingesting foodstuffs and processing them down to smaller substances which ur body can use for energy .

 

[Baldingman1998]

That’s resting/basal metabolic rate . Metabolism is the process of ingesting foodstuffs and processing them down to smaller substances which ur body can use for energy .

Yes but the word matabolism is used in the same sense as basal metabolic rate. That's what people mean when they talk about metabolism

 

[Sikkunt23]

Yes but the word matabolism is used in the same sense as basal metabolic rate. That's what people mean when they talk about metabolism

It’s incorrect .

 

[everythingmatters]

eat fruits veggies natural animal proteins and lots of water and count calories to lose weight
you're welcome for giving you the secret to stay healthy

Every metabolism is different, the fact that a food is natural does not mean that it is specifically good for your metabolism.

You must learn about your metabolism and genetics, and based on that feed yourself.

Stay with this, food is not calories, calories are fictitious, it is not matter and therefore it cannot impact your body like food that is matter.

Food is information that gives your body instructions on what to do, activates or deactivates hormones, and hormones activate or deactivate processes in your body. Everything that happens in your body is controlled by hormones and therefore for the food

 

[Baldingman1998]

It’s incorrect .

I'm saying that's how people use it not saying it's correct. Metabolism is referred to as digestion and basal metabolic rate is referred to metabolism by normies if we aren't using scientific terms

 

[Sikkunt23]

U are Chad tbh

I'm saying that's how people use it not saying it's correct. Metabolism is referred to as digestion and basal metabolic rate is referred to metabolism by normies if we aren't using scientific terms

I'm saying that's how people use it not saying it's correct. Metabolism is referred to as digestion and basal metabolic rate is referred to metabolism by normies if we aren't using scientific terms

 

[Baldingman1998]

U are Chad tbh

No u

 

[Deleted member 6867]

I have spent the last 3 years looking for information about maxxing stuff.

I can say that I know the internet well, I learned about moneymaxing, fitness community, mgtow, red pill, pua and now blackpill, etc.

And I can say without a doubt that the world of metabolism has been by far the best discovery I have made so far.

The metabolism explains practically everything that happens in your body and makes you realize the great scam that today's diet is, why you can't lose weight, because you have insomnia, because you feel tired all the time, because You are mentally and physically screwed up as shit.

Doctors are a fucking scam, I already knew for a long time but now thanks to this discovery, I can understand even more from the root why they are.

The fitness industry is even more of a scam than I thought, and I'm not saying this because of the fake nattys and genetics, but because of how wrong they are about diet and nutrition. If you don't have very good genetics, follow the advice of those stupid fitness youtuber, the only thing it will do is screw up your metabolism, mind and health.

IMO, improving your metabolism is the first step if you want to get out of inceldom. If your metabolism is shit (like most modern man today) you will not have the energy, the spirits, the mental state, or the physical condition to do the things that are necessary to escape this hell.

Moneymaxing is a must if you need surgery to get ascended, and you will not achieve that goal if your metabolism and hormones are not in your favor.

Some random videos for you to introduce yourself, but this world is very wide:

yes it's called Intermittent Fasting and it's gaining popularity

I think fasting for 24 hours is low iq

 

[Baldingman1998]

Every metabolism is different, the fact that a food is natural does not mean that it is specifically good for your metabolism.

You must learn about your metabolism and genetics, and based on that feed yourself.

Stay with this, food is not calories, calories are fictitious, it is not matter and therefore it cannot impact your body like food that is matter.

Food is information that gives your body instructions on what to do, activates or deactivates hormones, and hormones activate or deactivate processes in your body. Everything that happens in your body is controlled by hormones and therefore for the food

Actually very high iq but not entirely true

 

[everythingmatters]

yes it's called Intermittent Fasting and it's gaining popularity

I think fasting for 24 hours is low iq

No brother, the metabolism goes beyond intermittent fasting and keto diet. Metabolism is about how your body works internally, it is not about IF / Keto.

Fasting is not a fad, fasting has existed practically since humanity has existed. Great thinkers throughout humanity like Plato have always recommended fasting. That you have found out about the existence of that concept with the label of intermittent fasting, is different.

 

[Sikkunt23]

Actually very high iq but not entirely true

I’m in med and most of what he said is true tbh

 

[Sikkunt23]

No brother, the metabolism goes beyond intermittent fasting and keto diet. Metabolism is about how your body works internally, it is not about IF / Keto.

Fasting is not a fad, fasting has existed practically since humanity has existed. Great thinkers throughout humanity like Plato have always recommended fasting. That you have found out about the existence of that concept with the label of intermittent fasting, is different.

Ramadan maxxing tbh . Proof of Islam

 

[piscicide]

Imagine writing an essay about metabolism instead of just eating less.

 

[everythingmatters]

Imagine writing an essay about metabolism instead of just eating less.

Imagine being so stupid and believing that to lose weight you must eat less, starve and screw up your body and mind because a random fitness youtuber said it in a video.

Imagine being so stupid and believing that the human body is so uncomplicated that the only thing you have to do to lose weight is eat less and that the hormones in your body do not have a greater relevance, but at the same time be aware that drugs and exogenous hormones have the power to make you lose weight without eating less.

 

[softlysoftly]

There is definitely something in insulinmaxxing. I think it dictates our water retention and muscle fullness. It’s why some people lean max and still look shit.

This riceman seems at the top of his game. In to learn more

 

[everythingmatters]

There is definitely something in insulinmaxxing. I think it dictates our water retention and muscle fullness. It’s why some people lean max and still look shit.

This riceman seems at the top of his game. In to learn more

The metabolism goes beyond being lean or losing weight (which is an important point too).

I am more than sure that a screwed up metabolism is one of the main causes of inceldom (in addition to looks, of course).

A fucked up metabolism literally means:
-Low energy levels
-Obesity
-Low T
-High E
-A screwed up mood
-Mind fucked (depression, anxiety, etc)
-Much more

I really recommend that you look for more information about it

 

[everythingmatters]

I thought metabolism was to do with how much body fat your body burns off. Is it to do with the mind to give more energy?

The main goal of metabolism is literally the creation of energy.

I recommend that you read my other comments so that you understand more than what I am trying to convey here

 

[betamanlet]

You are technically right, but telling people to improve their metabolism is equally vague to telling them to become more healthy, because the state of high metabolism is equal the state of high health. Every disease is a metabolic disease, because metabolism is all you as a biological organism are! Metabolism is the biggest 'big picture' possible, and thus too big to convey much practical meaning.

 

[karbo]

didnt watch but thumbnail says "insulin is key" and i agree with that
with my knowledge in nutrition my advice for normal weight people is

cut out added sugars completely
dont overeat (+500kcal)
dont undereat (also -500kcal)
keep carbs low but dont enter ketosis

ideal diet tbh

 

[betamanlet]

So high metabolism is good?

Efficient metabolism is good. The less you need to eat to achieve the same outcome, the better.

Calories are a scam.

Calories are not a scam. In the end weight maintenance still comes down to 'calories in calories out'. It's just that your basal metabolic rate is highly malleable, and dependent on what you're eating. If you replace starches with sugars, for example, you can up to quadruple your caloric intake with zero weight gain. Yet eventually these too would be turned to fat. Ideally additional calories will be turned into thermal energy, rather than fat reserves, but in practice it is not this simple.

 

[everythingmatters]

You are technically right, but telling people to improve their metabolism is equally vague to telling them to become more healthy, because the state of high metabolism is equal the state of high health. Every disease is a metabolic disease, because metabolism is all you as a biological organism are! Metabolism is the biggest 'big picture' possible, and thus too big to convey much practical meaning.

No bro, it's not vague what I'm saying.

This is only an introduction to everything I want to convey, it is a very extensive topic that is impossible to deal with in a thread or make a "step by step guide", in fact the most that can be done is to get people interested the subject and educate themselves about it.

The greatest contribution I can make is to broaden people's awareness on the subject and make a paradigm shift in how they see their health.

That said, I could give some practical advice such as, for example, learn to identify the type of metabolism you have, what foods to eat according to your type of metabolism and common problems, give some advice on how to accelerate a slow metabolism to achieve weight loss , demystify some myths such as caloric balance, etc. But even so, that is not a substitute for self-knowledge of their own bodies.

 

[betamanlet]

No bro, it's not vague what I'm saying.

Then you don't understand what metabolism means. There exists no process within you that is not fundamentally metabolic. Metabolism can become dysfunctional in thousands of ways. This is not even an introduction, unless you consider "be healthy" an introduction to health. The greatest contribution you can make is to thoroughly understand the ideas you are advocating for, before becoming a champion for them.

 

[everythingmatters]

Efficient metabolism is good. The less you need to eat to achieve the same outcome, the better.


Calories are not a scam. In the end weight maintenance still comes down to 'calories in calories out'. It's just that your basal metabolic rate is highly malleable, and dependent on what you're eating. If you replace starches with sugars, for example, you can up to quadruple your caloric intake with zero weight gain. Yet eventually these too would be turned to fat. Ideally additional calories will be turned into thermal energy, rather than fat reserves, but in practice it is not this simple.

This is copypaste bs.

This is what the fitness industry and some charters like Lyle McDonald have been selling for years.

A calorie is a fictitious thing, it is not matter (it is intangible, you cannot touch it) and therefore it cannot influence the processes within your body.

The only thing that can influence your body is matter, and food is matter that is real and that you can see and touch.

How do you explain that people with fast metabolism can eat tons of junk and still be super skinny? (Keep in mind that junk food has insane amounts of calories.)

You think that calories are more important than the content itself of food to lose weight. But you do not realize the impact that the content of the food (not the amount) has on the hormones in your body that are those that control body fat?

You really think that the glucose and insulin levels that control fat and weight gain (and are controlled by the content of the food you eat) have less relevance to weight loss than the "calories" you eat (which is fictitious and it literally can't interact with your body)?

Does it really make sense for you to want to apply a law of physics intended for inanimate things (whose system is constant and closed) to a living being (whose system is variable and open)?

 

[everythingmatters]

Then you don't understand what metabolism means. There exists no process within you that is not fundamentally metabolic. Metabolism can become dysfunctional in thousands of ways. This is not even an introduction, unless you consider "be healthy" an introduction to health. The greatest contribution you can make is to thoroughly understand the ideas you are advocating for, before becoming a champion for them.

The one who does not understand what it is is you. Metabolism is the set of processes within the body whose objective is the creation of energy, whose processes are regulated through hormones.

Hormones can only be regulated by matter like food (not calories). How do you intend to control your metabolism and body processes with something fictitious and intagible like calories? Do you really think that "calories" have more weight in the functioning of your metabolism than the content of the food itself?

 

[everythingmatters]

@betamanlet, @Sikkunt23 He's a medical student, and he agreed with what I said earlier. I hope he can intervene to present his point of view.

 

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[redhandsbluehands]

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you can see the moment his soul left his fucking body

 

[betamanlet]

A calorie is a fictitious thing, it is not matter (it is intangible, you cannot touch it) and therefore it cannot influence the processes within your body.

Ha. Calorie is a measurement. Is weight a fictitious thing because pounds are intangible?

How do you explain that people with fast metabolism can eat tons of junk and still be super skinny? (Keep in mind that junk food has insane amounts of calories.)

What is there to explain? You said it yourself: they have "fast metabolism" (which is kind of an awkward notion, but sufficient for now).

You think that calories are more important than the content itself of food to lose weight.

No. I am saying that together they determine how much weight you are going to lose. Neither operates in isolation.

You really think that the glucose and insulin levels that control fat and weight gain have less relevance to weight loss than the "calories" you eat?

I don't. You don't need to go around inventing fictious viewpoints for me just because I don't fully agree with your representation. As I said: you are mostly right. You just don't fully understand why.

Metabolism is the set of processes within the body whose objective is the creation of energy

Quite so, and the purpose of every_single_process within your body is to guarantee the continuation of energy production, since the purpose of you as an organism is to convert energy from one form to another.

Hormones can only be regulated by matter like food

Hormones are regulated by everything you do, think and believe. Food is but one part of the equation. To fix your metabolism is not to fix your diet, but to fix your whole life.

He's a medical student, and he agreed with what I said earlier. I hope he can intervene to present his point of view.

Oo, so he is guaranteed to know at least 5% of what I know. Unilke you, who knows 5% at most.

 

[softlysoftly]

bro you sound high iq on the topic but saying a calorie isn’t real sounds akin to saying that time isn’t real and is just a human creation. Calories seem to be a very standard, predictable measure of weight loss/gain.

 

[everythingmatters]

bro you sound high iq on the topic but saying a calorie isn’t real sounds akin to saying that time isn’t real and is just a human creation. Calories seem to be a very standard, predictable measure of weight loss/gain.

This is one more scam and a lie from the gurus.

I say that calories don't exist because they literally don't exist, you can't see them, you can't touch them. How will they influence your body if the calories cannot interact with it? You get it right?

Calories cannot influence your body fat and body, the only thing that can literally influence your body fat is glucose and insulin (I repeat, it is literally the only thing that can influence, nothing more).

The only thing that can manipulate your insulin and glucose levels is your metabolism, which in turn is influenced by what you eat (which is matter, not calories).


If there is no insulin you literally cannot get fat no matter how much "calories you eat", if there is no glucose in your body it is physiologically impossible for you to get fat no matter how much you eat.

And the only thing that you can influence insulin and glucose levels is the content of what you eat (not calories).

You don't eat calories, you eat food, which is matter and something tangible that can interact with your body. Calories simply can't because they don't exist for your body or in space.

In fact, time does not exist either and it is literally human creation, time is relative and according to Einstein's theory of relativity it can vary.

 

[everythingmatters]

bro you sound high iq on the topic but saying a calorie isn’t real sounds akin to saying that time isn’t real and is just a human creation. Calories seem to be a very standard, predictable measure of weight loss/gain.

Do you know why it is so hard for you to understand what I say? Because all these fucking shitty youtubers have brainwashed us.

Also because you are not aware that there are two currents of thinking currently regarding nutrition and diet, and only one version has been presented to you, then you are judging me only based on that side of the coin.

When you have studied both versions, then you will have the full version and you can decide for yourself what to believe. But you NEED to know BOTH versions.

 

[SadnessWYJ]

Ramadan maxxing tbh . Proof of Islam

This, over if not ramdan maxxing

 

[betamanlet]

I say that calories don't exist because they literally don't exist, you can't see them, can't you touch them? How will they influence your body if the calories cannot interact with it?

Calorie is an unit of energy. Energy exists. You eat food, which contains energy. Calories represent the amount of energy that can potentially be extracted from the food in absolute terms. What is so hard to understand?

Your argument boils down to "no unit of measurement exists". Which is technically right, yet wholly uninsightful, because it takes away your ability to measure ANYTHING.

Do you know why it is so hard for you to understand what I say? Because all these fucking shitty youtubers have brainwashed us.

Ironic sesntiment, considering how you based your post on a couple of pop-scientific youtube videos (which I presume to be the full extent of your "research").

 

[Deleted member 4387]

Your thread and comments were very pleasing to read and made sense, however you indicate the subject is too large and comprehensive to explain in one thread. Maybe you could refer us to a place with more information like say a forum? I'd like to better my metabolism but just googling it will lead me to the very same health guru scammers you speak of. Please do redirect us to proper sites to gain more knowledge of this subject.

@everythingmatters

 

[everythingmatters]

Ironic sesntiment, considering how you based your post on a couple of pop-scientific youtube videos (which I presume to be the full extent of your "research").

LOL, I'm not even sure if what I'm saying is the same as what is said in the youtube videos that as I said in the main post are random videos of Dr Jason.

I hope you're not comparing a real doctor to shitty fitness youtubers. Dr Jason is not a youtuber, he is a real doctor.

 

[betamanlet]

I hope you're not comparing a real doctor to shitty fitness youtubers.

I hope you are not basing your understanding of nutrition on youtube lectures. Books are written for a reason. Question: what is this reason?

Dr Jason is not a youtuber, he is a real doctor.

Real doctor means very little. Consider that most doctors are absolute retards. You are smart enough to easily become more knowledgeable than 90% of doctors in less than a year.

 

[everythingmatters]

Your thread and comments were very pleasing to read and made sense, however you indicate the subject is too large and comprehensive to explain in one thread. Maybe you could refer us to a place with more information like say a forum? I'd like to better my metabolism but just googling it will lead me to the very same health guru scammers you speak of. Please do redirect us to proper sites to gain more knowledge of this subject.

@everythingmatters

Start by watching Dr Jason Fung's videos (which are the ones I put in the main post).

Personally, whenever I am interested in a subject, I research everything and from multiple sources with an open mind. I do not close myself to a single source or idea, I listen to everything and in the end I make my own criteria.

Keep the following in mind when searching for the topic; There are two currents of thought now regarding nutrition and diet:

1. The theory of energy balance (calories in calories out), which is what 99% of fitness yotubers, normies and closed-minded people in general preach because it is the idea that they have been selling for years and they have a hard time believing that all those ideas ingrained in their minds are wrong.

2. The other is the endocrine theory, which states that body fat is actually controlled by metabolism (digestive, hormonal, nervous system), not by the "calories you eat."

I have studied both theories and fully know the basics of each, and I think it is obvious from the theory that I am leaning now.