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The ignorant opposer claims a false claim as will be shown shortly. Historically is this claim true? Let us unveil his stupidity.
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The Scholar Imam Uthman Ibn Saeed Ad-Darimi (280 AH) scholar from the salaf and from the direct students of Imam Ahmad wrote two powerful refutations against the ones who delved deep into the philosophy and logic of Aristotle who also claimed Islam and they were called the “jahmiyyah”
and the jahmiyyah inherited their Greek philosophy through the hellenised sabeans
And through this inherited philosophy they sought to negate the attributes of Allah becuase according to them it would mean Allah is made of parts and one of the heads of the Jahmiyyah and their leading scholars was emerging and gaining influence in the land and his name was Bishr Al Marisi
Shaykh al-Islaam bin Taymiyyah said in Minhaj al-Sunnah (tahqiq Muhammad Rashid Salim, 1986, 2/603-604):
“And Bishr Al Marisi from the Murji'ah, he was not from the Mutazilah, rather he was from the senior ones amongst the Jahmiyyah.”
So Once Imam Darimi saw that such an evil scholar was rising he could not bear and penned a destructive refutations upon him and in That book he shows that they used to believe that the one who believes in the attributes of hearing and seeing and a eye would mean that you believe for Allah that he has parts making him a body therefore created therefore a kafir.
Book "The Critique of 'Uthman ibn Sa'id against the Stubborn Jahmi, Al-Marisi, regarding what he falsely attributed to Allah concerning Tawhid“
Imam Darimi Said “As for your claims that they (ahl al-sunnah) speak of limbs composed of parts (jārihun murakkabun) then this is a type of disbelief not spoken of by any one of the Muslims. We do affirm hearing and seeing and an eye without a howness, just as He has affirmed it in what he revealed of His book, and what His Messenger sallalahu ‘alayhi wassalam affirmed for Him. What you keep repeating over and over again, limbs, body parts and the like, hashw and fables and slander-is something no one in the world speaks of. We have narrated reports about the hearing and seeing and the eye in this book with their chains of narration and their wordings from Rasul Allah salllalahu ‘alayhi wassalam; so we only say as He said, and we mean by them what he meant, but howness is lifted from them, and mentions of limbs and organs are unnecessary additions from your side-slanderous ones too.”
He also said: “So say to this disputer : As for what you claim that these people claim Allah has an eye, then we only say so because Allah-the exalted- and His Messenger sallalahu ‘alayhi wassalam said so. As for body parts of the likes of the human eye which is composed of parts (jārihun kajārih il-aynī min al-insān ‘ala t-tarkīb) then this is a lie that you have deliberately imposed upon us, for you full well know that no one says this, but you spare no effort in your slanders since this allows you to better spread your deviance in the hearts of the ignorant people. Now lying is not permissible, not seriously nor in jest. So who exactly are these people whom you have heard speak of limbs made of parts (jārihun murakkabun) ? Show us who they are, since they are disbelievers. How many times will you keep repeating about a composite body, organs and limbs, about parts, (jismun murakkabun wa a’dhā’un,wa jawārihun wa-jzā’un) as if intending to scare us away from attributing to Allah what He attributed to Himself and what the Messenger ﷺ attributed to Him, by this villification. Even though we do not attribute to Allah a body of the likes of created bodies, nor with body parts nor limbs but we certainly attribute to Him what enrages you of these attributes that you deny. We say He is the One and Only, the Independent who does not beget nor was He begotten, He has no equal, possessor of a magnanimous Face, the Hearer who hears, the Seer with vision, the Light of the heavens and earth”.
The praise for Uthman Ibn Saeed Darimi
Imam Safarini said:
“After the second century, this doctrine—referred to by the Salaf as the doctrine of the Jahmiyyah—spread due to Bishr ibn Ghiyāth al-Marīsī and his followers... The interpretations found in contemporary books, such as most of those mentioned by Abū Bakr ibn Fūrak in Al-Ta’wīlāt and Abū ‘Abdullāh Muḥammad ibn ‘Umar al-Rāzī in his book Ta’sīs al-Taqdīs, are the very same interpretations recorded by Bishr al-Marīsī in his book. This is evident from the refutation compiled by ‘Uthmān ibn Sa‘īd al-Dārimī, where he quoted these exact interpretations from Bishr al-Marīsī and refuted them with arguments so clear that any intelligent and perceptive person who reads them will undoubtedly recognize the truth of the doctrine of the Salaf. He will also realize the strength of their argument and the weakness of those who opposed them. The imams of guidance unanimously condemned the Marīsiyyah, with most of them declaring them to be disbelievers or severely misguided. By reading the work of Ibn Sa‘īd al-Dārimī, it becomes clear that this doctrine, which has spread among these later scholars who call themselves the Khalaf, is, in reality, the doctrine of the Marīsiyyah. There is no power nor strength except with Allah.”
Lawāmi‘ al-Anwār (1/299).
So it is clear that when the salaf affirmed the attributes of hearing seeing and eye the jahmiyyah believed these to be parts and deemed the scholars from the salaf who held the correct position to be those who liken Allah to the creation.
