The end of looksmax is WAY closer then we thought || High quality post || HIQM

[Histy]

what's your theory?

.org is no longer a looksmaxxing forum?

Recently so many users have joined this forum , yet they end up rotting in the offtopic section People who are really doing something about it are only less than 5% of the users Meanwhile back in the days ( From 2018 till the start of 2025) People were only posting some high effort threads in...

looksmax.org

 

[krieg]

It’s got another 2 years I think till it’s shutdown

 

[Navity]

It’s got another 2 years I think till it’s shutdown

Don't know about shutdown, but it's on one of its final stages of declining.

 

[droidmaxxing]

This entire thread is based upon the dynastic cycle. I recall reading about this on a thread, which I can't find any longer.

What is the dynastic cycle?

Spoiler: Dynastic cycle (Optional to read)

The Dynastic Cycle is a socio-political theory that historians use to explain the rise, peak, decline, and collapse of ruling families throughout history.
It states the 6 era's of a civlization:

Spoiler: AI

1. The Genesis (Rise)
It ends violently a period of battling states in chaos or a decaying old empire. A new leader emerges --- often a charismatic warlord, a brilliant general, or a peasant rebel leader. By successfully unifying the land and crushing rivals, they "prove" to the population that they have successfully claimed the Mandate of Heaven.

Spoiler: Mandate of heaven

The Mandate of Heaven (tianming) is an ancient Chinese political and philosophical doctrine established during the Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BCE). It asserts that Heaven grants a virtuous ruler the right to govern, but this mandate can be revoked if the emperor becomes corrupt or tyrannical

2. The Infrastructure Boom (Growth)
The new imperial family works hard to solidify their power by winning over the people. They lower taxes on the working class, redistribute agricultural land fairly, and invest heavily in public infrastructure. They rebuild collapsed roads, clear out bandits, and repair irrigation canals to prevent floods. Peace is restored, and the population begins to grow rapidly.

3. The Golden Age (The Peak)
The dynasty reaches its absolute cultural, economic, and military height. The rulers are highly competent and surrounded by honest advisors. Trade thrives along secure routes, art and technology flourish, and the empire expands its borders. Life is stable, and the people are generally content.

4. The Internal Rot (Decay)
Decades or centuries pass. The newer emperors are born into extreme wealth and isolated inside palace walls. They completely lose touch with the harsh realities of peasant life.

• Corruption: Imperial court officials and wealthy landowners stop paying taxes and hoard riches.
• Exploitation: To pay for lavish royal lifestyles, massive palaces, and bloated militaries, the government imposes crushing taxes on the poor.
• Neglect: Public works are abandoned. Dams rot, roads crumble, and the military becomes underfunded and undisciplined.

5. The Cosmic Warning (Loss of the Mandate)
The structural collapse of the government coincides with a string of terrible luck. The universe signals its displeasure through major catastrophes: devastating floods, droughts, severe famines, deadly earthquakes, or plagues. Because the government treasury is empty due to corruption, the state cannot offer disaster relief. Millions starve, and desperate citizens turn to banditry just to survive.

6. The Violent Reset (The Fall)
Seeing the government completely powerless and broke, the desperate population launches massive peasant rebellions. Rival warlords step up to seize power, and foreign invaders attack weak borders. The capital is burned, the old ruling family is wiped out, and the country fractures into civil war. The cycle completely resets when one faction finally defeats all the others and starts the loop over again at Stage 1.

Spoiler: TL;DR || explained by me

Let me explain this to you in terms your tiny little brains can comprehend.

Im using the example of a meme, which Is something I believe EVERYONE is or was familiar with.

1. a meme gets made

2. The meme gets spread, perfected and re inforced.

3. Everyone starts using this meme

4. We loose the main point, or the track of the meme; the re-inforcments made seize to exist any longer.

5. your little brother starts using it

6. everyone forgets it

---

1. The rise

First began the rise of the blackpill and looksmaxxing on 4chan in the 2010 days.

2. Growth

then lookism.net, looksmax.me(2015-2018) was made. The path/basis/base of looksmaxxing is created: new looksmaxxes are created, rules are made, people start spreading the word.(2021-2023)

3. The peak

2023-2024; maximum efficency, a good amount of users, but not too many. everyone shares looksmaxxing tips and the mods/admins are active. looksmaxxing is excelling, people are doing EVERYTHING to looksmaxx, new theory's are being made.

@Master returns.

4. The rot

Then comes the newer generation; they are arrogant about craniofacial anatomy. They are brash about looksmaxxing; all they know of is what they were told by TikTok.

They blindly and idotically follow what they were told.

But looksmaxing.org(me) isn't about looksmaxxing anymore, its about shitposting, its about making funny jokes, we have lost the plot, the basis of looksmaxxing.

Here's a High quality thread I made, which took me a whole week:

Statusmaxxing, is it really as important as looks?

Nav's Guide On Statusmaxxing & Its importance Thread song Table of contents: Status & Its Types. Importance of status. Examples of Statusmaxxers. How to Statusmaxx. Status Status is a measurement of social value, referring to the relative level of respect, honor, consumed...

looksmax.org

View attachment 5067498

This is after multiple bumps + multiple tags + multiple requests to sticky.

Now here's one where I just screenshotted something + posted on offtopic
View attachment 5067504

@Alexanderr, one of the admins barely is active, so are mods like @Clavicular or @emeraldglass (still a great mod) or @Orc.

Niggas like @Petsmart or @asdvek can just shitpost some random things and get 20+ reps.
View attachment 5067509
View attachment 5067510

while the people who actually make high quality looksmaxxing guides/theorys are IGNORED. Not given any value.

This site only is here for shitposting, not for looksmaxxing any longer.

After a person doxxes my face, my school, my city, my age.

guess what happens?

Even after I make a PM featuring all sub-admins + admins, and make a whole thread tagging all sub-admins + admins and writing a message on their profile, ALONGSIDE tagging all mods, NO action is taken.


@Master starts putting AD's on the sites.

(much more to cover)

5. Cosmic warnings

.org is flooded with Bots, constantly crashes, constantly servers are down.
View attachment 5067538


6. rebels

Users start leaving + deleting, new forums are created, actual good mods like @SlayerJonas and @TechnoBoss + @Resistance. are removed.



Much more to cover but looking at how bad the site has become and how This thread will slowly go down and get lesser views/reps then some thread which says "I am sexually attracted to my grandma" I put down my pen.

Just take a look at this thread, people will spam DNR,.


TL;DR

over for looksmax.org.





Would also like to take this time to mourn the death of my friend @duckmaxxer , he deleted. i know he wouldve loved to see this thread.

RIP to @duckmaxxer + @haryanvi_incel. You will be missed.

---

Amen
Once again a good post

 

[Navity]

Amen
Once again a good post

Thanks, bhai. Didn't know you were christian, amen.

 

[droidmaxxing]

Thanks, bhai. Didn't know you were christian, amen.

I'm not a Christian
Just randomly said it though

 

[Navity]

@teddy101 lurking

 

[Nodal]

.org is no longer a looksmaxxing forum?

Recently so many users have joined this forum , yet they end up rotting in the offtopic section People who are really doing something about it are only less than 5% of the users Meanwhile back in the days ( From 2018 till the start of 2025) People were only posting some high effort threads in...

looksmax.org

not realy the reason imo

@teddy101 lurking

using it as a method to bump i see

 

[Navity]

using it as a method to bump i see Im very gay boy and I love sucking bbc

 

[Navity]

This entire thread is based upon the dynastic cycle. I recall reading about this on a thread, which I can't find any longer.

What is the dynastic cycle?

Spoiler: Dynastic cycle (Optional to read)

The Dynastic Cycle is a socio-political theory that historians use to explain the rise, peak, decline, and collapse of ruling families throughout history.
It states the 6 era's of a civlization:

Spoiler: AI

1. The Genesis (Rise)
It ends violently a period of battling states in chaos or a decaying old empire. A new leader emerges --- often a charismatic warlord, a brilliant general, or a peasant rebel leader. By successfully unifying the land and crushing rivals, they "prove" to the population that they have successfully claimed the Mandate of Heaven.

Spoiler: Mandate of heaven

The Mandate of Heaven (tianming) is an ancient Chinese political and philosophical doctrine established during the Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BCE). It asserts that Heaven grants a virtuous ruler the right to govern, but this mandate can be revoked if the emperor becomes corrupt or tyrannical

2. The Infrastructure Boom (Growth)
The new imperial family works hard to solidify their power by winning over the people. They lower taxes on the working class, redistribute agricultural land fairly, and invest heavily in public infrastructure. They rebuild collapsed roads, clear out bandits, and repair irrigation canals to prevent floods. Peace is restored, and the population begins to grow rapidly.

3. The Golden Age (The Peak)
The dynasty reaches its absolute cultural, economic, and military height. The rulers are highly competent and surrounded by honest advisors. Trade thrives along secure routes, art and technology flourish, and the empire expands its borders. Life is stable, and the people are generally content.

4. The Internal Rot (Decay)
Decades or centuries pass. The newer emperors are born into extreme wealth and isolated inside palace walls. They completely lose touch with the harsh realities of peasant life.

• Corruption: Imperial court officials and wealthy landowners stop paying taxes and hoard riches.
• Exploitation: To pay for lavish royal lifestyles, massive palaces, and bloated militaries, the government imposes crushing taxes on the poor.
• Neglect: Public works are abandoned. Dams rot, roads crumble, and the military becomes underfunded and undisciplined.

5. The Cosmic Warning (Loss of the Mandate)
The structural collapse of the government coincides with a string of terrible luck. The universe signals its displeasure through major catastrophes: devastating floods, droughts, severe famines, deadly earthquakes, or plagues. Because the government treasury is empty due to corruption, the state cannot offer disaster relief. Millions starve, and desperate citizens turn to banditry just to survive.

6. The Violent Reset (The Fall)
Seeing the government completely powerless and broke, the desperate population launches massive peasant rebellions. Rival warlords step up to seize power, and foreign invaders attack weak borders. The capital is burned, the old ruling family is wiped out, and the country fractures into civil war. The cycle completely resets when one faction finally defeats all the others and starts the loop over again at Stage 1.

Spoiler: TL;DR || explained by me

Let me explain this to you in terms your tiny little brains can comprehend.

Im using the example of a meme, which Is something I believe EVERYONE is or was familiar with.

1. a meme gets made

2. The meme gets spread, perfected and re inforced.

3. Everyone starts using this meme

4. We loose the main point, or the track of the meme; the re-inforcments made seize to exist any longer.

5. your little brother starts using it

6. everyone forgets it

---

1. The rise

First began the rise of the blackpill and looksmaxxing on 4chan in the 2010 days.

2. Growth

then lookism.net, looksmax.me(2015-2018) was made. The path/basis/base of looksmaxxing is created: new looksmaxxes are created, rules are made, people start spreading the word.(2021-2023)

3. The peak

2023-2024; maximum efficency, a good amount of users, but not too many. everyone shares looksmaxxing tips and the mods/admins are active. looksmaxxing is excelling, people are doing EVERYTHING to looksmaxx, new theory's are being made.

@Master returns.

4. The rot

Then comes the newer generation; they are arrogant about craniofacial anatomy. They are brash about looksmaxxing; all they know of is what they were told by TikTok.

They blindly and idotically follow what they were told.

But looksmaxing.org(me) isn't about looksmaxxing anymore, its about shitposting, its about making funny jokes, we have lost the plot, the basis of looksmaxxing.

Here's a High quality thread I made, which took me a whole week:

Statusmaxxing, is it really as important as looks?

Nav's Guide On Statusmaxxing & Its importance Thread song Table of contents: Status & Its Types. Importance of status. Examples of Statusmaxxers. How to Statusmaxx. Status Status is a measurement of social value, referring to the relative level of respect, honor, consumed...

looksmax.org

View attachment 5067498

This is after multiple bumps + multiple tags + multiple requests to sticky.

Now here's one where I just screenshotted something + posted on offtopic
View attachment 5067504

@Alexanderr, one of the admins barely is active, so are mods like @Clavicular or @emeraldglass (still a great mod) or @Orc.

Niggas like @Petsmart or @asdvek can just shitpost some random things and get 20+ reps.
View attachment 5067509
View attachment 5067510

while the people who actually make high quality looksmaxxing guides/theorys are IGNORED. Not given any value.

This site only is here for shitposting, not for looksmaxxing any longer.

After a person doxxes my face, my school, my city, my age.

guess what happens?

Even after I make a PM featuring all sub-admins + admins, and make a whole thread tagging all sub-admins + admins and writing a message on their profile, ALONGSIDE tagging all mods, NO action is taken.


@Master starts putting AD's on the sites.

(much more to cover)

5. Cosmic warnings

.org is flooded with Bots, constantly crashes, constantly servers are down.
View attachment 5067538


6. rebels

Users start leaving + deleting, new forums are created, actual good mods like @SlayerJonas and @TechnoBoss + @Resistance. are removed.



Much more to cover but looking at how bad the site has become and how This thread will slowly go down and get lesser views/reps then some thread which says "I am sexually attracted to my grandma" I put down my pen.

Just take a look at this thread, people will spam DNR,.


TL;DR

over for looksmax.org.





Would also like to take this time to mourn the death of my friend @duckmaxxer , he deleted. i know he wouldve loved to see this thread.

RIP to @duckmaxxer + @haryanvi_incel. You will be missed.

---

b

 

[Reformed]

master genuinely doesnt gaf about the community and its clear cus he didnt listen to the users who were telling him to private the forum and now hes putting scam ads like gambling jfl u money hungry fag to make some quick money

 

[Navity]

master genuinely doesnt gaf about the community and its clear cus he didnt listen to the users who were telling him to private the forum and now hes putting scam ads like gambling jfl u money hungry fag to make some quick money

It really is a shame...

 

[Reformed]

It really is a shame...

fr, this community is being ruined by sellouts. deadass might delete my account bc thinking .org and LM just makes me angry now

 

[Navity]

fr, this community is being ruined by sellouts. deadass might delete my account bc thinking .org and LM just makes me angry now

Makes me want to kill myself

I've been proposing an option to ignore all greys/blues but the mods aren't accepting it.

As an oldcel what are your thoughts on my thread? is the info accurate?

 

[Reformed]

Makes me want to kill myself

I've been proposing an option to ignore all greys/blues but the mods aren't accepting it.

As an oldcel what are your thoughts on my thread? is the info accurate?

yeah info is accurate, also it isnt worth ropemaxxing over this.

this scum-ness happens in a lot of communities. Greedy people valuing money over everything else.

tbh this place was a big part of me growing up, but i have to leave it behind. Tbh this place will continue to evolve and me wanting it to stay the same as I found it isnt realistic. The newgens will take over and turn it to something else, which i guess is fine. I managed to ascend my life, so I guess its not fair for me to ask for anything more from this place.

this fr might be one of my last posts for a while. i wont delete my account just for the sake or memory but im gonna unbookmark and not come back for a while

 

[CollioureViews]

This entire thread is based upon the dynastic cycle. I recall reading about this on a thread, which I can't find any longer.

What is the dynastic cycle?

Spoiler: Dynastic cycle (Optional to read)

The Dynastic Cycle is a socio-political theory that historians use to explain the rise, peak, decline, and collapse of ruling families throughout history.
It states the 6 era's of a civlization:

Spoiler: AI

1. The Genesis (Rise)
It ends violently a period of battling states in chaos or a decaying old empire. A new leader emerges --- often a charismatic warlord, a brilliant general, or a peasant rebel leader. By successfully unifying the land and crushing rivals, they "prove" to the population that they have successfully claimed the Mandate of Heaven.

Spoiler: Mandate of heaven

The Mandate of Heaven (tianming) is an ancient Chinese political and philosophical doctrine established during the Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BCE). It asserts that Heaven grants a virtuous ruler the right to govern, but this mandate can be revoked if the emperor becomes corrupt or tyrannical

2. The Infrastructure Boom (Growth)
The new imperial family works hard to solidify their power by winning over the people. They lower taxes on the working class, redistribute agricultural land fairly, and invest heavily in public infrastructure. They rebuild collapsed roads, clear out bandits, and repair irrigation canals to prevent floods. Peace is restored, and the population begins to grow rapidly.

3. The Golden Age (The Peak)
The dynasty reaches its absolute cultural, economic, and military height. The rulers are highly competent and surrounded by honest advisors. Trade thrives along secure routes, art and technology flourish, and the empire expands its borders. Life is stable, and the people are generally content.

4. The Internal Rot (Decay)
Decades or centuries pass. The newer emperors are born into extreme wealth and isolated inside palace walls. They completely lose touch with the harsh realities of peasant life.

• Corruption: Imperial court officials and wealthy landowners stop paying taxes and hoard riches.
• Exploitation: To pay for lavish royal lifestyles, massive palaces, and bloated militaries, the government imposes crushing taxes on the poor.
• Neglect: Public works are abandoned. Dams rot, roads crumble, and the military becomes underfunded and undisciplined.

5. The Cosmic Warning (Loss of the Mandate)
The structural collapse of the government coincides with a string of terrible luck. The universe signals its displeasure through major catastrophes: devastating floods, droughts, severe famines, deadly earthquakes, or plagues. Because the government treasury is empty due to corruption, the state cannot offer disaster relief. Millions starve, and desperate citizens turn to banditry just to survive.

6. The Violent Reset (The Fall)
Seeing the government completely powerless and broke, the desperate population launches massive peasant rebellions. Rival warlords step up to seize power, and foreign invaders attack weak borders. The capital is burned, the old ruling family is wiped out, and the country fractures into civil war. The cycle completely resets when one faction finally defeats all the others and starts the loop over again at Stage 1.

Spoiler: TL;DR || explained by me

Let me explain this to you in terms your tiny little brains can comprehend.

Im using the example of a meme, which Is something I believe EVERYONE is or was familiar with.

1. a meme gets made

2. The meme gets spread, perfected and re inforced.

3. Everyone starts using this meme

4. We loose the main point, or the track of the meme; the re-inforcments made seize to exist any longer.

5. your little brother starts using it

6. everyone forgets it

---

1. The rise

First began the rise of the blackpill and looksmaxxing on 4chan in the 2010 days.

2. Growth

then lookism.net, looksmax.me(2015-2018) was made. The path/basis/base of looksmaxxing is created: new looksmaxxes are created, rules are made, people start spreading the word.(2021-2023)

3. The peak

2023-2024; maximum efficency, a good amount of users, but not too many. everyone shares looksmaxxing tips and the mods/admins are active. looksmaxxing is excelling, people are doing EVERYTHING to looksmaxx, new theory's are being made.

@Master returns.

4. The rot

Then comes the newer generation; they are arrogant about craniofacial anatomy. They are brash about looksmaxxing; all they know of is what they were told by TikTok.

They blindly and idotically follow what they were told.

But looksmaxing.org(me) isn't about looksmaxxing anymore, its about shitposting, its about making funny jokes, we have lost the plot, the basis of looksmaxxing.

Here's a High quality thread I made, which took me a whole week:

Statusmaxxing, is it really as important as looks?

Nav's Guide On Statusmaxxing & Its importance Thread song Table of contents: Status & Its Types. Importance of status. Examples of Statusmaxxers. How to Statusmaxx. Status Status is a measurement of social value, referring to the relative level of respect, honor, consumed...

looksmax.org

View attachment 5067498

This is after multiple bumps + multiple tags + multiple requests to sticky.

Now here's one where I just screenshotted something + posted on offtopic
View attachment 5067504

@Alexanderr, one of the admins barely is active, so are mods like @Clavicular or @emeraldglass (still a great mod) or @Orc.

Niggas like @Petsmart or @asdvek can just shitpost some random things and get 20+ reps.
View attachment 5067509
View attachment 5067510

while the people who actually make high quality looksmaxxing guides/theorys are IGNORED. Not given any value.

This site only is here for shitposting, not for looksmaxxing any longer.

After a person doxxes my face, my school, my city, my age.

guess what happens?

Even after I make a PM featuring all sub-admins + admins, and make a whole thread tagging all sub-admins + admins and writing a message on their profile, ALONGSIDE tagging all mods, NO action is taken.


@Master starts putting AD's on the sites.

(much more to cover)

5. Cosmic warnings

.org is flooded with Bots, constantly crashes, constantly servers are down.
View attachment 5067538


6. rebels

Users start leaving + deleting, new forums are created, actual good mods like @SlayerJonas and @TechnoBoss + @Resistance. are removed.



Much more to cover but looking at how bad the site has become and how This thread will slowly go down and get lesser views/reps then some thread which says "I am sexually attracted to my grandma" I put down my pen.

Just take a look at this thread, people will spam DNR,.


TL;DR

over for looksmax.org.





Would also like to take this time to mourn the death of my friend @duckmaxxer , he deleted. i know he wouldve loved to see this thread.

RIP to @duckmaxxer + @haryanvi_incel. You will be missed.

---

the death of an empire occurs when there is no more need to innovation and creativity since they achieved a peak they can never return to there is no more need for posting in lm.

It's pretty much this, no?

The most valuable info here is in BOTB, generally.

I saved every OP in BOTB locally to create a library for myself, and even then, I won't need most of the insights there...

I'm not saying there can't be innovation, but the existing high-effort threads are pretty impressive and useful.

What more can anyone really contribute?

 

[Navity]

yeah info is accurate, also it isnt worth ropemaxxing over this.

this scum-ness happens in a lot of communities. Greedy people valuing money over everything else.

tbh this place was a big part of me growing up, but i have to leave it behind. Tbh this place will continue to evolve and me wanting it to stay the same as I found it isnt realistic. The newgens will take over and turn it to something else, which i guess is fine. I managed to ascend my life, so I guess its not fair for me to ask for anything more from this place.

this fr might be one of my last posts for a while. i wont delete my account just for the sake or memory but im gonna unbookmark and not come back for a while

Almost hurts my soul seeing users like you, who are about to delete.

I know I'll have to leave this forum too, sooner or later; But this place where I've spent hundreds of hours upon, leaving it all behind me. All my friends, all my bhai's... eveyone.

I can't even fathom it.

Mirin to you bhai. I wish you all the best in life. Take care.

If you're here for a while, PM me.

 

[Nodal]

It's pretty much this, no?

The most valuable info here is in BOTB, generally.

I saved every OP in BOTB locally to create a library for myself, and even then, I won't need most of the insights there...

I'm not saying there can't be innovation, but the existing high-effort threads are pretty impressive and useful.

What more can anyone really contribute?

there are new botb thread being made and when times advances so does technology there is much more to discover and test besides like 90% botb is shit and popularity contest

there is way more things not covered here and in botb

 

[CollioureViews]

there are new botb thread being made and when times advances so does technology there is much more to discover and test besides like 90% botb is shit and popularity contest

there is way more things not covered here and in botb

That's why I caveated by mentioning there can still be innovation...

Calling it 90% shit and a popularity contest sounds like a convenient cope.

Finally, I never claimed that BOTB is dogma, so you're kinda just shadowboxing points I didn't make.

 

[Nodal]

Calling it 90% shit and a popularity contest sounds like a convenient cope.

i literally have 2 botb threads

That's why I caveated by mentioning there can still be innovation...

what about
the fact that you said what more can anyone contribute? i answered saying botb barely has any useful info i would argue there may more better threads that didnt make it than botb threads

I never claimed that BOTB is dogma, so you're kinda just shadowboxing points I didn't make

you just made a contradicting statement you implied that there could be innovation but again said what more can anyone really contribute fist agree with your self before trying to argue

if you think there isnt much more things that can be added to botb well idk what to tell you

 

[coastal]

This entire thread is based upon the dynastic cycle. I recall reading about this on a thread, which I can't find any longer.

What is the dynastic cycle?

Spoiler: Dynastic cycle (Optional to read)

The Dynastic Cycle is a socio-political theory that historians use to explain the rise, peak, decline, and collapse of ruling families throughout history.
It states the 6 era's of a civlization:

Spoiler: AI

1. The Genesis (Rise)
It ends violently a period of battling states in chaos or a decaying old empire. A new leader emerges --- often a charismatic warlord, a brilliant general, or a peasant rebel leader. By successfully unifying the land and crushing rivals, they "prove" to the population that they have successfully claimed the Mandate of Heaven.

Spoiler: Mandate of heaven

The Mandate of Heaven (tianming) is an ancient Chinese political and philosophical doctrine established during the Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BCE). It asserts that Heaven grants a virtuous ruler the right to govern, but this mandate can be revoked if the emperor becomes corrupt or tyrannical

2. The Infrastructure Boom (Growth)
The new imperial family works hard to solidify their power by winning over the people. They lower taxes on the working class, redistribute agricultural land fairly, and invest heavily in public infrastructure. They rebuild collapsed roads, clear out bandits, and repair irrigation canals to prevent floods. Peace is restored, and the population begins to grow rapidly.

3. The Golden Age (The Peak)
The dynasty reaches its absolute cultural, economic, and military height. The rulers are highly competent and surrounded by honest advisors. Trade thrives along secure routes, art and technology flourish, and the empire expands its borders. Life is stable, and the people are generally content.

4. The Internal Rot (Decay)
Decades or centuries pass. The newer emperors are born into extreme wealth and isolated inside palace walls. They completely lose touch with the harsh realities of peasant life.

• Corruption: Imperial court officials and wealthy landowners stop paying taxes and hoard riches.
• Exploitation: To pay for lavish royal lifestyles, massive palaces, and bloated militaries, the government imposes crushing taxes on the poor.
• Neglect: Public works are abandoned. Dams rot, roads crumble, and the military becomes underfunded and undisciplined.

5. The Cosmic Warning (Loss of the Mandate)
The structural collapse of the government coincides with a string of terrible luck. The universe signals its displeasure through major catastrophes: devastating floods, droughts, severe famines, deadly earthquakes, or plagues. Because the government treasury is empty due to corruption, the state cannot offer disaster relief. Millions starve, and desperate citizens turn to banditry just to survive.

6. The Violent Reset (The Fall)
Seeing the government completely powerless and broke, the desperate population launches massive peasant rebellions. Rival warlords step up to seize power, and foreign invaders attack weak borders. The capital is burned, the old ruling family is wiped out, and the country fractures into civil war. The cycle completely resets when one faction finally defeats all the others and starts the loop over again at Stage 1.

Spoiler: TL;DR || explained by me

Let me explain this to you in terms your tiny little brains can comprehend.

Im using the example of a meme, which Is something I believe EVERYONE is or was familiar with.

1. a meme gets made

2. The meme gets spread, perfected and re inforced.

3. Everyone starts using this meme

4. We loose the main point, or the track of the meme; the re-inforcments made seize to exist any longer.

5. your little brother starts using it

6. everyone forgets it

---

1. The rise

First began the rise of the blackpill and looksmaxxing on 4chan in the 2010 days.

2. Growth

then lookism.net, looksmax.me(2015-2018) was made. The path/basis/base of looksmaxxing is created: new looksmaxxes are created, rules are made, people start spreading the word.(2021-2023)

3. The peak

2023-2024; maximum efficency, a good amount of users, but not too many. everyone shares looksmaxxing tips and the mods/admins are active. looksmaxxing is excelling, people are doing EVERYTHING to looksmaxx, new theory's are being made.

@Master returns.

4. The rot

Then comes the newer generation; they are arrogant about craniofacial anatomy. They are brash about looksmaxxing; all they know of is what they were told by TikTok.

They blindly and idotically follow what they were told.

But looksmaxing.org(me) isn't about looksmaxxing anymore, its about shitposting, its about making funny jokes, we have lost the plot, the basis of looksmaxxing.

Here's a High quality thread I made, which took me a whole week:

Statusmaxxing, is it really as important as looks?

Nav's Guide On Statusmaxxing & Its importance Thread song Table of contents: Status & Its Types. Importance of status. Examples of Statusmaxxers. How to Statusmaxx. Status Status is a measurement of social value, referring to the relative level of respect, honor, consumed...

looksmax.org

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This is after multiple bumps + multiple tags + multiple requests to sticky.

Now here's one where I just screenshotted something + posted on offtopic
View attachment 5067504

@Alexanderr, one of the admins barely is active, so are mods like @Clavicular or @emeraldglass (still a great mod) or @Orc.

Niggas like @Petsmart or @asdvek can just shitpost some random things and get 20+ reps.
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while the people who actually make high quality looksmaxxing guides/theorys are IGNORED. Not given any value.

This site only is here for shitposting, not for looksmaxxing any longer.

After a person doxxes my face, my school, my city, my age.

guess what happens?

Even after I make a PM featuring all sub-admins + admins, and make a whole thread tagging all sub-admins + admins and writing a message on their profile, ALONGSIDE tagging all mods, NO action is taken.


@Master starts putting AD's on the sites.

(much more to cover)

5. Cosmic warnings

.org is flooded with Bots, constantly crashes, constantly servers are down.
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6. rebels

Users start leaving + deleting, new forums are created, actual good mods like @SlayerJonas and @TechnoBoss + @Resistance. are removed.



Much more to cover but looking at how bad the site has become and how This thread will slowly go down and get lesser views/reps then some thread which says "I am sexually attracted to my grandma" I put down my pen.

Just take a look at this thread, people will spam DNR,.


TL;DR

over for looksmax.org.





Would also like to take this time to mourn the death of my friend @duckmaxxer , he deleted. i know he wouldve loved to see this thread.

RIP to @duckmaxxer + @haryanvi_incel. You will be missed.

---

very high effort thread, and i agree with all points

i think serious niggas will just move to a different forum like they moved to org from psl

looksmaxxing itself will never die, but the culture associated with it will.

 

[couragecel]

looksmaxxing is cope anyways unless u get surgery or filler.

All u can do is get lean

And health indicators, hairstyle, coloring?

 

[TGUN.]

And health indicators, hairstyle, coloring?

Health indicators is cope.

Coloring and hairstyle is barely looksmaxxes

 

[Nectar]

Den den den…

 

[CollioureViews]

i literally have 2 botb threads

what about
the fact that you said what more can anyone contribute? i answered saying botb barely has any useful info i would argue there may more better threads that didnt make it than botb threads

you just made a contradicting statement you implied that there could be innovation but again said what more can anyone really contribute fist agree with your self before trying to argue

if you think there isnt much more things that can be added to botb well idk what to tell you

My views are internally consistent; it's not my problem you can't read with nuance.

It's possible for the vast majority of knowledge in this space to have already been mapped out, whilst simultaneously having room for groundbreaking discoveries/advancements to be made.

Like how we know nearly everything about the physical world, yet a grand unifying theory would be groundbreaking.

Not my problem that you can't read with that kinda nuance...

 

[Navity]

very high effort thread, and i agree with all points

i think serious niggas will just move to a different forum like they moved to org from psl

looksmaxxing itself will never die, but the culture associated with it will.

agreed BUT we moved on from PSL because it was shut down.

 

[Navity]

Den den den…

What?

 

[Genio]

i think serious niggas will just move to a different forum like they moved to org from psl

Exactly
At some point all the shit-posting will rule here and other's will be redirected to another forum for Looksmaxxing.
This place will become an Incel-Verified Community and no more for lookism.

 

[CollioureViews]

i literally have 2 botb threads

what about
the fact that you said what more can anyone contribute? i answered saying botb barely has any useful info i would argue there may more better threads that didnt make it than botb threads

you just made a contradicting statement you implied that there could be innovation but again said what more can anyone really contribute fist agree with your self before trying to argue

if you think there isnt much more things that can be added to botb well idk what to tell you

Nice react.

You lost the argument, dummy...

 

[CollioureViews]

i literally have 2 botb threads

what about
the fact that you said what more can anyone contribute? i answered saying botb barely has any useful info i would argue there may more better threads that didnt make it than botb threads

you just made a contradicting statement you implied that there could be innovation but again said what more can anyone really contribute fist agree with your self before trying to argue

if you think there isnt much more things that can be added to botb well idk what to tell you

Perfect defence.

Go on, do it again, faggot.

 

[Navity]

Nice react.

You lost the argument, dummy...

yo @teddy101 keep fighting and bumping my thread

 

[CollioureViews]

yo @teddy101 keep fighting and bumping my thread

He can only shit post now, because he can't engage with my response, as he knows it's logically sound...

My views are internally consistent; it's not my problem you can't read with nuance.

It's possible for the vast majority of knowledge in this space to have already been mapped out, whilst simultaneously having room for groundbreaking discoveries/advancements to be made.

Like how we know nearly everything about the physical world, yet a grand unifying theory would be groundbreaking.

Not my problem that you can't read with that kinda nuance...

Huh, teddy faggot???

Anything to say?

 

[Nodal]

yo @teddy101 keep fighting and bumping my thread

not worth it aruging with the guy he thinks he is super smart and can grasp super complex topics but is a fucking idiot that doest understand basic english he asked me what more can be added when i answer to him he said he didnt say there is nothing to be added jfl i would be the idiot if i argued

 

[CollioureViews]

not worth it aruging with the guy he thinks he is super smart and can grasp super complex topics but is a fucking idiot that doest understand basic english he asked me what more can be added when i answer to him he said he didnt say there is nothing to be added jfl i would be the idiot if i argued

Cool bro, great response, real convincing...

 

[Navity]

not worth it aruging with the guy he thinks he is super smart and can grasp super complex topics but is a fucking idiot that doest understand basic english he asked me what more can be added when i answer to him he said he didnt say there is nothing to be added jfl i would be the idiot if i argued

caged

 

[Navity]

Cool bro, great response, real convincing...

caged


keep going

 

[Navity]

yeah info is accurate, also it isnt worth ropemaxxing over this.

this scum-ness happens in a lot of communities. Greedy people valuing money over everything else.

tbh this place was a big part of me growing up, but i have to leave it behind. Tbh this place will continue to evolve and me wanting it to stay the same as I found it isnt realistic. The newgens will take over and turn it to something else, which i guess is fine. I managed to ascend my life, so I guess its not fair for me to ask for anything more from this place.

this fr might be one of my last posts for a while. i wont delete my account just for the sake or memory but im gonna unbookmark and not come back for a while

@FramepiII some more news for you, when am I getting paid

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

Nah its gonna become even more popular

This is the start of the lm hell, the beauty industry will only grow we will all be renting out our hormones and our looks to the elite, we will be cyborgs who patch up our melting and rotting genes with plastic if only you knew the dystopia we are entering

 

[Deleted member 297070]

This entire thread is based upon the dynastic cycle. I recall reading about this on a thread, which I can't find any longer.

What is the dynastic cycle?

Spoiler: Dynastic cycle (Optional to read)

The Dynastic Cycle is a socio-political theory that historians use to explain the rise, peak, decline, and collapse of ruling families throughout history.
It states the 6 era's of a civlization:

Spoiler: AI

1. The Genesis (Rise)
It ends violently a period of battling states in chaos or a decaying old empire. A new leader emerges --- often a charismatic warlord, a brilliant general, or a peasant rebel leader. By successfully unifying the land and crushing rivals, they "prove" to the population that they have successfully claimed the Mandate of Heaven.

Spoiler: Mandate of heaven

The Mandate of Heaven (tianming) is an ancient Chinese political and philosophical doctrine established during the Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BCE). It asserts that Heaven grants a virtuous ruler the right to govern, but this mandate can be revoked if the emperor becomes corrupt or tyrannical

2. The Infrastructure Boom (Growth)
The new imperial family works hard to solidify their power by winning over the people. They lower taxes on the working class, redistribute agricultural land fairly, and invest heavily in public infrastructure. They rebuild collapsed roads, clear out bandits, and repair irrigation canals to prevent floods. Peace is restored, and the population begins to grow rapidly.

3. The Golden Age (The Peak)
The dynasty reaches its absolute cultural, economic, and military height. The rulers are highly competent and surrounded by honest advisors. Trade thrives along secure routes, art and technology flourish, and the empire expands its borders. Life is stable, and the people are generally content.

4. The Internal Rot (Decay)
Decades or centuries pass. The newer emperors are born into extreme wealth and isolated inside palace walls. They completely lose touch with the harsh realities of peasant life.

• Corruption: Imperial court officials and wealthy landowners stop paying taxes and hoard riches.
• Exploitation: To pay for lavish royal lifestyles, massive palaces, and bloated militaries, the government imposes crushing taxes on the poor.
• Neglect: Public works are abandoned. Dams rot, roads crumble, and the military becomes underfunded and undisciplined.

5. The Cosmic Warning (Loss of the Mandate)
The structural collapse of the government coincides with a string of terrible luck. The universe signals its displeasure through major catastrophes: devastating floods, droughts, severe famines, deadly earthquakes, or plagues. Because the government treasury is empty due to corruption, the state cannot offer disaster relief. Millions starve, and desperate citizens turn to banditry just to survive.

6. The Violent Reset (The Fall)
Seeing the government completely powerless and broke, the desperate population launches massive peasant rebellions. Rival warlords step up to seize power, and foreign invaders attack weak borders. The capital is burned, the old ruling family is wiped out, and the country fractures into civil war. The cycle completely resets when one faction finally defeats all the others and starts the loop over again at Stage 1.

Spoiler: TL;DR || explained by me

Let me explain this to you in terms your tiny little brains can comprehend.

Im using the example of a meme, which Is something I believe EVERYONE is or was familiar with.

1. a meme gets made

2. The meme gets spread, perfected and re inforced.

3. Everyone starts using this meme

4. We loose the main point, or the track of the meme; the re-inforcments made seize to exist any longer.

5. your little brother starts using it

6. everyone forgets it

---

1. The rise

First began the rise of the blackpill and looksmaxxing on 4chan in the 2010 days.

2. Growth

then lookism.net, looksmax.me(2015-2018) was made. The path/basis/base of looksmaxxing is created: new looksmaxxes are created, rules are made, people start spreading the word.(2021-2023)

3. The peak

2023-2024; maximum efficency, a good amount of users, but not too many. everyone shares looksmaxxing tips and the mods/admins are active. looksmaxxing is excelling, people are doing EVERYTHING to looksmaxx, new theory's are being made.

@Master returns.

4. The rot

Then comes the newer generation; they are arrogant about craniofacial anatomy. They are brash about looksmaxxing; all they know of is what they were told by TikTok.

They blindly and idotically follow what they were told.

But looksmaxing.org(me) isn't about looksmaxxing anymore, its about shitposting, its about making funny jokes, we have lost the plot, the basis of looksmaxxing.

Here's a High quality thread I made, which took me a whole week:

Statusmaxxing, is it really as important as looks?

Nav's Guide On Statusmaxxing & Its importance Thread song Table of contents: Status & Its Types. Importance of status. Examples of Statusmaxxers. How to Statusmaxx. Status Status is a measurement of social value, referring to the relative level of respect, honor, consumed...

looksmax.org

View attachment 5067498

This is after multiple bumps + multiple tags + multiple requests to sticky.

Now here's one where I just screenshotted something + posted on offtopic
View attachment 5067504

@Alexanderr, one of the admins barely is active, so are mods like @Clavicular or @emeraldglass (still a great mod) or @Orc.

Niggas like @Petsmart or @asdvek can just shitpost some random things and get 20+ reps.
View attachment 5067509
View attachment 5067510

while the people who actually make high quality looksmaxxing guides/theorys are IGNORED. Not given any value.

This site only is here for shitposting, not for looksmaxxing any longer.

After a person doxxes my face, my school, my city, my age.

guess what happens?

Even after I make a PM featuring all sub-admins + admins, and make a whole thread tagging all sub-admins + admins and writing a message on their profile, ALONGSIDE tagging all mods, NO action is taken.


@Master starts putting AD's on the sites.

(much more to cover)

5. Cosmic warnings

.org is flooded with Bots, constantly crashes, constantly servers are down.
View attachment 5067538


6. rebels

Users start leaving + deleting, new forums are created, actual good mods like @SlayerJonas and @TechnoBoss + @Resistance. are removed.



Much more to cover but looking at how bad the site has become and how This thread will slowly go down and get lesser views/reps then some thread which says "I am sexually attracted to my grandma" I put down my pen.

Just take a look at this thread, people will spam DNR,.


TL;DR

over for looksmax.org.





Would also like to take this time to mourn the death of my friend @duckmaxxer , he deleted. i know he wouldve loved to see this thread.

RIP to @duckmaxxer + @haryanvi_incel. You will be missed.

---

The problem is that the most active powerusers are a little clique of discord/.com fags who use this place as their personal little gossip/drama forum and the newer users latch on to it as they think these users are respected, wise, experienced etc. Despite the fact that those lot just dwell in offtopic and have done little looksmaxxing

The other subforums are dying because we have no new information and all the posts greys need to see are already on BOTB

 

[Mr. Squarepants]

It will probably die down by the early days of 2028 tbh

 

[Deleted member 297070]

The problem is that the most active powerusers are a little clique of discord/.com fags who use this place as their personal little gossip/drama forum and the newer users latch on to it as they think these users are respected, wise, experienced etc. Despite the fact that those lot just dwell in offtopic and have done little looksmaxxing

The other subforums are dying because we have no new information and all the posts greys need to see are already on BOTB

to figure out if you’re part of this clique
if you’ve ever had an “evisceration thread” put out on you and it got more than like 10 replies then you probably are

 

[Navity]

It will probably die down by the early days of 2028 tbh

This forum is dying This year 10000000000000000%

 

[Navity]

The problem is that the most active powerusers are a little clique of discord/.com fags who use this place as their personal little gossip/drama forum and the newer users latch on to it as they think these users are respected, wise, experienced etc. Despite the fact that those lot just dwell in offtopic and have done little looksmaxxing

The other subforums are dying because we have no new information and all the posts greys need to see are already on BOTB

Exactly, good to see some high IQ users on my thread

 

[Mr. Squarepants]

This forum is dying This year 10000000000000000%

You got to be proportioned with the time it has been rising and popular

The rickroll meme was strong until 2021 it only died down by 2023 i recall, it took 2 years for it to be forgotten

The whole looksmax thing has been mainstream since 2023, give it atleast a year to descend

 

[Navity]

You got to be proportioned with the time it has been rising and popular

The rickroll meme was strong until 2021 it only died down by 2023 i recall, it took 2 years for it to be forgotten

The whole looksmax thing has been mainstream since 2023, give it atleast a year to descend

Looksmaxxing shall live on till the end of time, .org won't.

unless master does something, its over for this site.

 

[Mr. Squarepants]

Looksmaxxing shall live on till the end of time, .org won't.

unless master does something, its over for this site.

.org might just need a rebrand at this point, almost no one makes new looksmax threads and people are only here to shitpost (like me)

Org is really just offtopic but with a slight looksmax theme, but perhaps i dont know for how long it will still continue to live

The whole looksmax thing tho is definetly dying in a year, shit just get boring after some time

 

[Navity]

.org might just need a rebrand at this point, almost no one makes new looksmax threads and people are only here to shitpost (like me)

Org is really just offtopic but with a slight looksmax theme, but perhaps i dont know for how long it will still continue to live

The whole looksmax thing tho is definetly dying in a year, shit just get boring after some time

EVERY good user already migrated lol

 

[Askinov]

BUmp

 

[1966Ford]

then lookism.net, looksmax.me(2015-2018) was made. The path/basis/base of looksmaxxing is created: new looksmaxxes are created, rules are made, people start spreading the word.(2021-2023)

I was there

 

[Navity]

I was there

How was it like back then