The existence of all beings depend on the existence of humans

[Klasik616]

All things that are considered beings in the world are only beings because there's a man around that can see and understand what they mean for him. This state of alert is the "Being in" of the Dasein: existence is something that only humans are aware of. No such thing as "natural objects" in the sense that they can be the *same* without the understanding of the man. Every time humans discover more about other "beings" they seem to change, this change is artificial and means they are all dependent on us cus if they had an essence they wouldn't be changing.

 

[Vermilioncore]

What about the beings in the deep sea

 

[PeakIncels]

that's called identity

 

[User28823]

no

 

[Klasik616]

What about the beings in the deep sea

Give names.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

you read Heidegger too much, I don't agree with him btw

 

[Vermilioncore]

Give names.

The Kraken

 

[Klasik616]

you read Heidegger too much, I don't agree with him btw

Yea. What's your concept of existence then.

 

[WonderX]

viperfish

Give names.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Yea. What's your concept of existence then.

everything can be thought of exists

 

[Klasik616]

everything can be thought of exists

No the existence is only for humans. Just because you believe in the kraken doesn't mean he exists. The existence of the others is still dependent on the understanding of humans because they're seen as objects. Only the thinker doesn't see himself as an object, he cannot do because he is existing and changing. This factum has made many problems in philosophy. Too bad things work like this.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

No the existence is only for humans. Just because you believe in the kraken doesn't mean he exists.

kraken exists, just not materially

 

[Klasik616]

kraken exists, just not materially

Is that being on this world we can perceive or just in your mind.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Is that being on this world we can perceive or just in your mind.

it is being of this world imo. I'm not nominalist

 

[buddhistking]

What do you mean? Humans kill billions of animals per year and destroy their habitat

 

[Klasik616]

What do you mean? Humans kill billions of animals per year and destroy their habitat

Because humans see other animals as objects to use, they don't see them as equal beings.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

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Heidegger married a jewish woman though

 

[WonderX]

What do you mean? Humans kill billions of animals per year and destroy their habitat

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Because humans see other animals as objects to use, they don't see them as equal beings.

humans also kill thousands of other humans per year and destroy their 'habitats'

 

[buddhistking]

humans also kill thousands of other humans per year and destroy their 'habitats'

humans don't kill enough other humans to threaten the existence of this species tho, they do that to other animals

 

[Deleted member 231621]

kraken exists, just not materially

@Klasik616 do you think ideas exist outside of human conscious?

 

[Klasik616]

@Klasik616 do you think ideas exist outside of human conscious?

Not really.

 

[Deleted member 165274]

What about the beings in the deep sea

 

[Deleted member 165274]

True most of the sea is undiscovered