The existence of God is only in your mind

[Klasik616]

Even beings like Jesus are more real than God.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Elaborate

 

[Klasik616]

Elaborate

No external source. Proving the existence of God is only through logic which is something you are born with. The only way to solve this up is proving that our mind is not material and then it belongs to another realm of beings such as God.

 

[Greyyz]

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

No external source. Proving the existence of God is only through logic which is something you are born with. The only way to save this up is proving that our mind is not material and then it belongs to another realm of beings such as God.

The only way to "save this up" blud ?

The Poet does not approve

 

[Deleted member 231621]

no because god is a being which nothing greater can be imagined
existence only in mind is less great than existence in reality
so he exists

 

[Klasik616]

no because god is a being which nothing greater can be imagined
existence only in mind is less great than existence in reality
so he exists

Existence can't be "in" mind. I don't think this argument is good because takes too much importance on what can be imaginated. Anselmus said something a bit different which is that a great being cannot lack one perfection which is existence. The problem is that existence is not an idea, is "being" itself. The reason why I made the title lol. I like more the "creation and time" arguments.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Existence can't be "in" mind. I don't think this argument is good because takes too much importance on what can be imaginated. Anselmus said something a bit different which is that a great being cannot lack one perfection which is existence. The problem is that existence is not an idea, is "being" itself.

why is that? why can't existence exist in the mind? my mind exists and in it I can think about whether existence exists but if existence can't exist in the mind, then nothing exists at all but it's retarded and contradictory

 

[Klasik616]

why is that? why can't existence exist in the mind? my mind exists and in it I can think about whether existence exists but if existence can't exist in the mind, then nothing exists at all but it's retarded and contradictory

The antinomies of the pure reason, the contradictions are a sign that the argument is probably flawed and out of reach for us.

@Mainlander what do you think about existence overall.

 

[Deleted member 233411]

I Believe if god truly was real it 100% isnt any of the “gods” we know of today like Allah or Jesus. A true real god would let everything play it without interaction. There wouldn’t be a heaven or hell.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

The antinomies of the pure reason, the contradictions are a sign that the argument is probably flawed and out of reach for us.

in this case contradiction is caused by false axioma of that "existence can't be in mind"

 

[Deleted member 231621]

well i never had a such deep dialogue on ontology and epistemology like with you @Klasik616

 

[Deleted member 231621]

well i come up with a new argument which kant will not debunk:
god is a being which nothing greater can be imagined
nothing greater can be imagined is existence
therefore existence and god is the same thing
and thus god exists