The failures of Western Hegemony and how the East will not repeat the same mistakes.

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The west has had an undoubtedly good run. From the times when they were the backwaters of civilization (besides Africa) the west rose up to dominate the entire world by the latter half of the second millennium. The west still leads the world in many ways, no one can deny this. However, it is also a fact that the west is fracturing. The many contradictions that permeate western civilization (wokeness, etc) has led to a reality in which no one serious about geopolitics can deny that the west is in decline. Serious decline. A decline that seems to accelerate with every passing month. The mistakes made by the west will not be repeated by the East.

1. Mistake one: The first mistake the west made is that they did not properly subjugate the other “white” races. The result is now that the Western Hemisphere is currently in a war to decide the fate of Europe. The failure of the west to properly dominate the Slavs has led to the first full scale war between developed nations in modern history. This is a war that is sucking resources out of the west to arm dead Ukrainians while simultaneously depriving Western Europe of oil and gas, destroying the manufacturing hub of Europe that is Germany. I predict that within five years Western Europe will decide that commuting economic suicide for the United States is not in their best interest and will begin decoupling from the US. East Asia, on the other hand, will never let this happen. When the East rises, it will utterly dominate Southeast Asia so that there is no doubt at all as to who is the master. South Asia (India really) will also be forced to submit or China will nuke them to oblivion. As for the fate of westerners in the Eastern led world, you need only look at the bent position of Russia in relation to China.

2. Mistake two: The second mistake the west made is multiculturalism. This is leading, and in fact already has led to a great cucking of the white race, and their gradual muttification. Yes there is a lot of talk about the percentage of Asian women who marry out in the US. It is indeed high. But keep in mind Asians only make up 7 percent of the population. And if you take out south and south East Asians from the equation then the number is even lower. 11 million (estimated population of East asians in US) divided by 1.7 billion total East asians is 0.006% of asians being cucked (and that’s if every single Asian woman in the west married out which they don’t.) think about that 0.006% of East asians, max. Compare this to western white women (leaving Slavs out as they are already being cucked by East asians). Of course as a percentage they marry out less, but there are obviously so much more of them in the west. Not only that western white people are by far a minority in the world among the major races; that means the percentage of cucking is even higher. With all the black men immigrating into western countries, and white men and women willingly leaving each other in droves. The white race is by far, by far the most cucked race that has ever existed in the history of humanity, both in terms of sheer numbers and as a percentage. Truly doomed. Foreign populations in the East Asian countries are at about one percent. And most of that one percent are made up of other East Asians, so there is no fear of a dilution of East Asian genes. Throughout history East Asians were the least cucked race out of all races. North-East Asians moved southwards and fucked all the indigenous island people, but we let none of them in. Current east Asia immigration policies is a reflection of that past.

3. Mistake three: wokeness is destroying the west. Need I elaborate? I think not. Western countries are trying their hardest to export wokeness around the world. But the conservative nations of the world are resisting spectacularly. In fact I believe resistance to wokeness will be one of the major factors that will unite the world under the East against the west in the coming decades. As monumentally stupid as Christianity is, without it the west has no cultural backbone that defends it from degeneracy. Unlike East Asia, even without its religions, the stopgap of Confucianism holds strong against wokeness.

The only thing standing in the way of inevitable East Asian domination is the hostilities that exist between China, Korea, and Japan. These hostilities are being kept up and inflamed by the west because they know that a United East Asia will be unstoppable. The west’s aversion to China is however, having the opposite effect and is actually drawing Asian countries closer together, as countries begin to realize that the west is using the rest of Asia to keep China down at the expense of Asia. Take the giant population and industrial sector of China, the high tech and popularity of South Korean and Japan. Add in the based nature of North Korea. And of course the descendants of Chinghis Khan in Mongolia, the age of the west is soon about to draw to a close.
 
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@Cheesyrumble @ChinkboytakeurBAE @pur3e @190cm90kg @Anstrum95 Tag anyone else you think is relevant to this discussion.
 
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Low iq no attention span faggot. Can’t ever read 5 paragraphs in 5 minutes. Superior iq, I forgot one more reason the East will dominate.
Yet you are using english technology on an english forum speaking english. Sure.
 
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And of course the descendants of Chinghis Khan in Mongolia, the age of the west is soon about to draw to a close.
history repeats itself

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Yet you are using english technology on an english forum speaking english. Sure.
You should read my post, I already acknowledge and explain this. One of the greatest logical fallacies one can commit is to believe that what is happening at the moment will continue happen into the future. I also speak all East Asian and some southeast Asian language dumbass.
 
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I really wanna read this but my attention span is too low from tiktok so tldr please?
 
I really wanna read this but my attention span is too low from tiktok so tldr please?
West fuck themselves in ass. West doomed. East take over.
 
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So you think china japan and korea are going to unite and co,operate the same way that european countries have? That doesn't seem likely at all.
 
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So you think china japan and korea are going to unite and co,operate the same way that european countries have? That doesn't seem likely at all.
True. But as everyone agrees, the west is in decline. Korea and japan will have no reason to play play along with a US that is in serious decline. Most analysts predict a serious depression to hit the US in the coming decade. You will see the cracks and gradual alliance beginning to form then.
 
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I read all if it. High effort great post
 
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But keep in mind Asians only make up 7 percent of the population. And if you take out south and south East Asians from the equation then the number is even lower. 11 million (estimated population of East asians in US) divided by 1.7 billion total East asians is 0.006% of asians being cucked (and that’s if every single Asian woman in the west married out which they don’t.) think about that 0.006% of East asians, max. Compare this to western white women (leaving Slavs out as they are already being cucked by East asians). Of course as a percentage they marry out less, but there are obviously so much more of them in the west. Not only that western white people are by far a minority in the world among the major races. With all the black men immigrating into western countries, and white men and women willingly leaving each other in droves. The white race is by far, by far the most cucked race that has ever existed in the history of humanity, both in terms of sheer numbers and as a percentage. Truly doomed. Foreign populations in the East Asian countries are at about one percent. And most of that one percent are made up of other East Asians, so there is no fear of a dilution of East Asian genes. Throughout history East Asians were the least cucked race out of all races. North-East Asians moved southwards and fucked all the indigenous island people, but we let none of them in. Current east Asia immigration policies is a reflection of that past.
HOLY BASED high iq post
 
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@Qazqa probably the highest iq thread I've read on here. Geopolitics, historical analysis, sociology viewpoints and trends in the present and the future....
 
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The west has had an undoubtedly good run. From the times when they were the backwaters of civilization (besides Africa) the west rose up to dominate the entire world by the latter half of the second millennium. The west still leads the world in many ways, no one can deny this. However, it is also a fact that the west is fracturing. The many contradictions that permeate western civilization (wokeness, etc) has led to a reality in which no one serious about geopolitics can deny that the west is in decline. Serious decline. A decline that seems to accelerate with every passing month. The mistakes made by the west will not be repeated by the East.

1. Mistake one: The first mistake the west made is that they did not properly subjugate the other “white” races. The result is now that the Western Hemisphere is currently in a war to decide the fate of Europe. The failure of the west to properly dominate the Slavs has led to the first full scale war between developed nations in modern history. This is a war that is sucking resources out of the west to arm dead Ukrainians while simultaneously depriving Western Europe of oil and gas, destroying the manufacturing hub of Europe that is Germany. I predict that within five years Western Europe will decide that commuting economic suicide for the United States is not in their best interest and will begin decoupling from the US. East Asia, on the other hand, will never let this happen. When the East rises, it will utterly dominate Southeast Asia so that there is no doubt at all as to who is the master. South Asia (India really) will also be forced to submit or China will nuke them to oblivion. As for the fate of westerners in the Eastern led world, you need only look at the bent position of Russia in relation to China.

2. Mistake two: The second mistake the west made is multiculturalism. This is leading, and in fact already has led to a great cucking of the white race, and their gradual muttification. Yes there is a lot of talk about the percentage of Asian women who marry out in the US. It is indeed high. But keep in mind Asians only make up 7 percent of the population. And if you take out south and south East Asians from the equation then the number is even lower. 11 million (estimated population of East asians in US) divided by 1.7 billion total East asians is 0.006% of asians being cucked (and that’s if every single Asian woman in the west married out which they don’t.) think about that 0.006% of East asians, max. Compare this to western white women (leaving Slavs out as they are already being cucked by East asians). Of course as a percentage they marry out less, but there are obviously so much more of them in the west. Not only that western white people are by far a minority in the world among the major races; that means the percentage of cucking is even higher. With all the black men immigrating into western countries, and white men and women willingly leaving each other in droves. The white race is by far, by far the most cucked race that has ever existed in the history of humanity, both in terms of sheer numbers and as a percentage. Truly doomed. Foreign populations in the East Asian countries are at about one percent. And most of that one percent are made up of other East Asians, so there is no fear of a dilution of East Asian genes. Throughout history East Asians were the least cucked race out of all races. North-East Asians moved southwards and fucked all the indigenous island people, but we let none of them in. Current east Asia immigration policies is a reflection of that past.

3. Mistake three: wokeness is destroying the west. Need I elaborate? I think not. Western countries are trying their hardest to export wokeness around the world. But the conservative nations of the world are resisting spectacularly. In fact I believe resistance to wokeness will be one of the major factors that will unite the world under the East against the west in the coming decades. As monumentally stupid as Christianity is, without it the west has no cultural backbone that defends it from degeneracy. Unlike East Asia, even without its religions, the stopgap of Confucianism holds strong against wokeness.

The only thing standing in the way of inevitable East Asian domination is the hostilities that exist between China, Korea, and Japan. These hostilities are being kept up and inflamed by the west because they know that a United East Asia will be unstoppable. The west’s aversion to China is however, having the opposite effect and is actually drawing Asian countries closer together, as countries begin to realize that the west is using the rest of Asia to keep China down at the expense of Asia. Take the giant population and industrial sector of China, the high tech and popularity of South Korean and Japan. Add in the based nature of North Korea. And of course the descendants of Chinghis Khan in Mongolia, the age of the west is soon about to draw to a close.
re unify the mongol empire
 
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re unify the mongol empire
Russia just needs to keep fucking up. Central Asia is already turning away from Russia to get closer to China. Kazakhstan has security promises with China now.
 
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The only real question is.... will the non whites in the west carry on Western civilization and hegemony when white people go extinct? That's still an unknown
 
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None of the things you mentioned can actually prevented, they're the natural course for advancing societies.
The same thing will happen to East Asia in the future (assuming Japan and Korea aren't barren wastelands considering their birthrates)
In many ways the east is more fucked than the west, your population pyramids are shit, even china.

Repressive authoritarian societies just don't work and antithetical to innovation and progress, China saw massive growth and success as they opened free trade and expanded freedoms. Western liberal democracy is the natural (and ideal) end state of human civilization.
 
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I know right. Cucklture is such a fundamental stricture of western society because they’ve been cucked so much throughout history. By Huns, by mongols, by central Asians, by Mediterranean’s. That is why all white people without exception are mutts. Most East Asians are one hundred percent their own ethnicity going back thousands of years, (Chinese may have one Korean, Korean may have one Japanese, etc). East Asians have by far the greatest Genetic pedigree in the world. No wonder cuck culture began in the west, it is literally in their genes.
 
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I know right. Cucklture is such a fundamental stricture of western society because they’ve been cucked so much throughout history. By Huns, by mongols, by central Asians, by Mediterranean’s. That is why all white people without exception are mutts. Most East Asians are one hundred percent their own ethnicity going back thousands of years, (Chinese may have one Korean, Korean may have one Japanese, etc). East Asians have by far the greatest Genetic pedigree in the world. No wonder cuck culture began in the west, it is literally in their genes.
You're delusional. Modern day koreans are japanese rapebabies, read up on your history and the mass raping of korea by japanese troops. East Asia also has a comparatively smaller genepool than most of the world. As in there's far less genetic difference between individual east asians and between different east asian ethnicities(korean, japanese) compared to Europe and Africa.
 
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None of the things you mentioned can actually prevented, they're the natural course for advancing societies.
The same thing will happen to East Asia in the future (assuming Japan and Korea aren't barren wastelands considering their birthrates)
In many ways the east is more fucked than the west, your population pyramids are shit, even china.
Muh birthrates. The white race is literally going extinct. Of course it's the natural course in the west as of now if nothing changes. There's no guarantee racial and cultural divisions will be overcame. Can it even be called "western hegemony" once the west is unrecognizable compared to the people who upheld and built western civilization?
 
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None of the things you mentioned can actually prevented, they're the natural course for advancing societies.
The same thing will happen to East Asia in the future (assuming Japan and Korea aren't barren wastelands considering their birthrates)
In many ways the east is more fucked than the west, your population pyramids are shit, even china.

Repressive authoritarian societies just don't work and antithetical to innovation and progress, China saw massive growth and success as they opened free trade and expanded freedoms. Western liberal democracy is the natural (and ideal) end state of human civilization.
Dumb end of history belief. As I said in another post. One of the greatest fallacies one can make is to believe what is happening now will continue to happen in the future. Liberal democracies are by their nature unstable, it is the only system that will in times of crisis willingly turn themselves over to fascism (nazis). It’s also why all liberal democratic governments in the world have abysmal approval ratings and politics remains at a deadlock with two or three major parties infighting on cultural issues to distract the population from getting economically squeezed. Compare this to the 93 percent approval rating of the CCP, it’s obvious which system will be more stable in the long run. The low birth rates are a consequence of harsh work hours mandated by the state in order into compete with the west (which had two centuries head start on industrialization, and see how fast we have caught up.) when the west seriously begins to decline (1-2 decades) work schedules will lessen up and birth rates will go up, naturally. Also the only reason western countries have higher birth rates than the East is because of the massive amount of immigrants it lets in. It’s not a flex that immigrants are turning the west brown. White populations have similar birth rates to East Asians.
 
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Muh birthrates. The white race is literally going extinct. Of course it's the natural course in the west as of now if nothing changes. There's no guarantee racial and cultural divisions will be overcame. Can it even be called "western hegemony" once the west is unrecognizable compared to the people who upheld and built western civilization?
You do realize white birthrates are still higher than Korean or Japanese birthrates right?
Better to have a mixed civilization than for everything to die out, which is the current trend for Korea and Japan
 
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Fantasies and tales thread
 
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The west has had an undoubtedly good run. From the times when they were the backwaters of civilization (besides Africa) the west rose up to dominate the entire world by the latter half of the second millennium. The west still leads the world in many ways, no one can deny this. However, it is also a fact that the west is fracturing. The many contradictions that permeate western civilization (wokeness, etc) has led to a reality in which no one serious about geopolitics can deny that the west is in decline. Serious decline. A decline that seems to accelerate with every passing month. The mistakes made by the west will not be repeated by the East.

1. Mistake one: The first mistake the west made is that they did not properly subjugate the other “white” races. The result is now that the Western Hemisphere is currently in a war to decide the fate of Europe. The failure of the west to properly dominate the Slavs has led to the first full scale war between developed nations in modern history. This is a war that is sucking resources out of the west to arm dead Ukrainians while simultaneously depriving Western Europe of oil and gas, destroying the manufacturing hub of Europe that is Germany. I predict that within five years Western Europe will decide that commuting economic suicide for the United States is not in their best interest and will begin decoupling from the US. East Asia, on the other hand, will never let this happen. When the East rises, it will utterly dominate Southeast Asia so that there is no doubt at all as to who is the master. South Asia (India really) will also be forced to submit or China will nuke them to oblivion. As for the fate of westerners in the Eastern led world, you need only look at the bent position of Russia in relation to China.

2. Mistake two: The second mistake the west made is multiculturalism. This is leading, and in fact already has led to a great cucking of the white race, and their gradual muttification. Yes there is a lot of talk about the percentage of Asian women who marry out in the US. It is indeed high. But keep in mind Asians only make up 7 percent of the population. And if you take out south and south East Asians from the equation then the number is even lower. 11 million (estimated population of East asians in US) divided by 1.7 billion total East asians is 0.006% of asians being cucked (and that’s if every single Asian woman in the west married out which they don’t.) think about that 0.006% of East asians, max. Compare this to western white women (leaving Slavs out as they are already being cucked by East asians). Of course as a percentage they marry out less, but there are obviously so much more of them in the west. Not only that western white people are by far a minority in the world among the major races; that means the percentage of cucking is even higher. With all the black men immigrating into western countries, and white men and women willingly leaving each other in droves. The white race is by far, by far the most cucked race that has ever existed in the history of humanity, both in terms of sheer numbers and as a percentage. Truly doomed. Foreign populations in the East Asian countries are at about one percent. And most of that one percent are made up of other East Asians, so there is no fear of a dilution of East Asian genes. Throughout history East Asians were the least cucked race out of all races. North-East Asians moved southwards and fucked all the indigenous island people, but we let none of them in. Current east Asia immigration policies is a reflection of that past.

3. Mistake three: wokeness is destroying the west. Need I elaborate? I think not. Western countries are trying their hardest to export wokeness around the world. But the conservative nations of the world are resisting spectacularly. In fact I believe resistance to wokeness will be one of the major factors that will unite the world under the East against the west in the coming decades. As monumentally stupid as Christianity is, without it the west has no cultural backbone that defends it from degeneracy. Unlike East Asia, even without its religions, the stopgap of Confucianism holds strong against wokeness.

The only thing standing in the way of inevitable East Asian domination is the hostilities that exist between China, Korea, and Japan. These hostilities are being kept up and inflamed by the west because they know that a United East Asia will be unstoppable. The west’s aversion to China is however, having the opposite effect and is actually drawing Asian countries closer together, as countries begin to realize that the west is using the rest of Asia to keep China down at the expense of Asia. Take the giant population and industrial sector of China, the high tech and popularity of South Korean and Japan. Add in the based nature of North Korea. And of course the descendants of Chinghis Khan in Mongolia, the age of the west is soon about to draw to a close.
We will nuke you sooner than you ascend, Asia.

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No doubt, all whites can join for 5 minutes just to erase their competitor :feelshehe:
 
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You do realize white birthrates are still higher than Korean or Japanese birthrates right?
Better to have a mixed civilization than for everything to die out, which is the current trend for Korea and Japan
Your mixed “civilization” will mean there will be a race war between the whites and the mixed/ethnic. This effect will be most noticeable in the US where there will most likely be a civil war between the liberals and conservatives over the soul of western society.
 
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We will nuke you sooner than you ascend, Asia.

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No chance... no doubt all whites can join for 5 minutes just to erase their competitor :feelshehe:
True, preemptive nuking is the only chance the west will have, but considering Russia is China’s dog and China has massive amounts of nukes as well. The rest of the world will also obliterate the west. However, as Asian populations by far outnumber whites we will recover at a much rapid pace than you will and eventually lead to the same outcome I specified in my post above.
 
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Dumb end of history belief. As I said in another post. One of the greatest fallacies one can make is to believe what is happening now will continue to happen in the future. Liberal democracies are by their nature unstable, it is the only system that will in times of crisis willingly turn themselves over to fascism (nazis). It’s also why all liberal democratic governments in the world have abysmal approval ratings and politics remains at a deadlock with two or three major parties infighting on cultural issues to distract the population from getting economically squeezed. Compare this to the 93 percent approval rating of the CCP, it’s obvious which system will be more stable in the long run. The low birth rates are a consequence of harsh work hours mandated by the state in order into compete with the west (which had two centuries head start on industrialization, and see how fast we have caught up.) when the west seriously begins to decline (1-2 decades) work schedules will lessen up and birth rates will go up, naturally. Also the only reason western countries have higher birth rates than the East is because of the massive amount of immigrants it lets in. It’s not a flex that immigrants are turning the west brown. White populations have similar birth rates to East Asians.
You keep talking about fallacies yet you engage in a gamblers fallacy. The West has won so much and they just keep winning to the point where you bet on the other side because SURELY they can't win again. A gambler sees red has won 10 times in a row and is SURE black must win next right? But red wins once again.
93 percent approval rating of the CCP
What is this delusion. JFL if you think this is a legitimate number. Just like China having 0 covid deaths.
There is no glamor to being a slave to an authoriation regime. You will not have any power. You aren't destined for any place in the party. You will live and die according to the whims of your local party officials. You will grow up hearing only falsehoods and propaganda without any chance to see other PoV's. You have this weird glamorized view that isn't based in reality.

Assuming you're chinese speak to your grandparents. Ask them about the many famines and mass starvation central planning caused. Them and their parents and their grandparents.

They will literally laugh in your face if you tell them the shit you're telling me.
 
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You keep talking about fallacies yet you engage in a gamblers fallacy. The West has won so much and they just keep winning to the point where you bet on the other side because SURELY they can't win again. A gambler sees red has won 10 times in a row and is SURE black must win next right? But red wins once again.

What is this delusion. JFL if you think this is a legitimate number. Just like China having 0 covid deaths.
There is no glamor to being a slave to an authoriation regime. You will not have any power. You aren't destined for any place in the party. You will live and die according to the whims of your local party officials. You will grow up hearing only falsehoods and propaganda without any chance to see other PoV's. You have this weird glamorized view that isn't based in reality.

Assuming you're chinese speak to your grandparents. Ask them about the many famines and mass starvation central planning caused. Them and their parents and their grandparents.
Gamblers fallacy is talking about random outcomes. Geopolitics is not random. It’s not craps. Logic, cause and effect decides the future, therefore what you said is not applicable.

93 percent approval rating is literally from a Harvard study lol. One of the institutions most hellbent on continuing western hegemony.
 
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soft power from east asia has already crept up and taking over in a short ass (2 year) time

kpop, tiktok are the biggest examples

everyone uses tiktok nigga 3 V E R Y ONE

russia and china are locked in like this 🤞

its over for cuckamerica
 
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Gamblers fallacy is talking about random outcomes. Geopolitics is not random. It’s not craps. Logic, cause and effect decides the future, therefore what you said is not applicable.

93 percent approval rating is literally from a Harvard study lol. One of the institutions most hellbent on continuing western hegemony.
I googled it the study isn't done by Harvard, it's done by another group and mentioned in a Harvard Op-Ed.

Use your brain.

Can people's thoughts be manipulated? Is it possible for the state to change how people view it through manipulation?
Compare the USA where there's a fuck ton of anti government information, half the country believes democrats and pedophile satanists.

Whereas in China anti government sentiment will get removed from Weibo and you need to use VPN's to browse many sites as the country blocks them. It's like talking to a group raised to cannibalize human flesh and asking them how they feel about eating human flesh, it's all they've known.
 
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You keep talking about fallacies yet you engage in a gamblers fallacy. The West has won so much and they just keep winning to the point where you bet on the other side because SURELY they can't win again. A gambler sees red has won 10 times in a row and is SURE black must win next right? But red wins once again.

What is this delusion. JFL if you think this is a legitimate number. Just like China having 0 covid deaths.
There is no glamor to being a slave to an authoriation regime. You will not have any power. You aren't destined for any place in the party. You will live and die according to the whims of your local party officials. You will grow up hearing only falsehoods and propaganda without any chance to see other PoV's. You have this weird glamorized view that isn't based in reality.

Assuming you're chinese speak to your grandparents. Ask them about the many famines and mass starvation central planning caused. Them and their parents and their grandparents.

They will literally laugh in your face if you tell them the shit you're telling me.
Global power is shifting from the west to Asia.... it's not a opinion it's fact.
Your not thinking about this objectively at all. Ur coming at all of this from a "moral perspective". This is about big picture shit nigga,
 
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soft power from east asia has already crept up and taking over in a short ass (2 year) time

kpop, tiktok are the biggest examples

everyone uses tiktok nigga 3 V E R Y ONE

russia and china are locked in like this 🤞

its over for cuckamerica
Future racial hierarchy will probably be as follows:

East Asian
South East Asian / Slavic (for the service they will do for East Asia)
Arabs
Western whites / Indians
(Black and Latinos unknown as I have not done enough research to fully understand their future development.)
 
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I googled it the study isn't done by Harvard, it's done by another group and mentioned in a Harvard Op-Ed.

Use your brain.

Can people's thoughts be manipulated? Is it possible for the state to change how people view it through manipulation?
Compare the USA where there's a fuck ton of anti government information, whereas in China anti government sentiment will get removed from Weibo and you need to use VPN's to browse many sites as the country blocks them. It's like talking to a group raised to cannibalize human flesh and asking them how they feel about eating human flesh, it's all they've known.
U may hate the way China governs its people, but ur not making any valid point on why it would stop the continuous growth in power and development of China. It's not debatable whether or not hundreds of millions of Chinese people have been lifted out of abject poverty over the last few decades.
 
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Future racial hierarchy will probably be as follows:

East Asian
South East Asian / Slavic (for the service they will do for East Asia)
Arabs
Western whites / Indians
(Black and Latinos unknown as I have not done enough research to fully understand their future development.)
Nah put Indians up higher. All of Asia will rise. South Asia will be the main rival or main friend of East Asia. It all depends on how things play out
 
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Global power is shifting from the west to Asia.... it's not a opinion it's fact.
Your not thinking about this objectively at all. Ur coming at all of this from a "moral perspective". This is about big picture shit nigga,
When did I deny global power shifting east? Of course it is. But you look at that and blindly think East Asia will have some insane golden age that dwarfs modern western society. The reality is much different. Japan is a country in decline. South Korea has a very quick rise and now is experiencing a dramatic fall. People literally are not having sex and reproducing in these countries. No amount of "soft power" TikTok KPop dudes changes this:


Even if you magically fix it in one generation, your population pyramid is still fucked which is a recipe for economic disaster.
 
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I googled it the study isn't done by Harvard, it's done by another group and mentioned in a Harvard Op-Ed.

Use your brain.

Can people's thoughts be manipulated? Is it possible for the state to change how people view it through manipulation?
Compare the USA where there's a fuck ton of anti government information, half the country believes democrats and pedophile satanists.

Whereas in China anti government sentiment will get removed from Weibo and you need to use VPN's to browse many sites as the country blocks them. It's like talking to a group raised to cannibalize human flesh and asking them how they feel about eating human flesh, it's all they've known.
Even if everything you said were true, which it’s not. It means that Chinese society and government is far more stable than any western liberal democracy. You said it yourself, everyone in the US believes such vastly different things from each other about everything that major conflict is inevitable, the only thing that needs to happen is a major economic downturn which there will be.
 
When did I deny global power shifting east? Of course it is. But you look at that and blindly think East Asia will have some insane golden age that dwarfs modern western society. The reality is much different. Japan is a country in decline. South Korea has a very quick rise and now is experiencing a dramatic fall. People literally are not having sex and reproducing in these countries. No amount of "soft power" TikTok KPop dudes changes this:


Even if you magically fix it in one generation, your population pyramid is still fucked which is a recipe for economic disaster.
Like I said, low birth rate is a result of harsh work hours mandates for the east to compete with centuries worth of head start by the west. When the west starts to decline in a major way in the next two decades work hours will go down and birth rates will go up. Meanwhile Amerimutts will probably start another civil war.
 
Even if everything you said were true, which it’s not. It means that Chinese society and government is far more stable than any western liberal democracy. You said it yourself, everyone in the US believes such vastly different things from each other about everything that major conflict is inevitable, the only thing that needs to happen is a major economic downturn which there will be.
Stable short term yes. But you shouldn't blindly expect such repression to maintain and not experience any throes.
Typically these authoritarian societies crash and burn, there is a surplus of 40 million men in China.
Do you expect them to keep their heads down and die alone quietly for party officials?
 
When did I deny global power shifting east? Of course it is. But you look at that and blindly think East Asia will have some insane golden age that dwarfs modern western society. The reality is much different. Japan is a country in decline. South Korea has a very quick rise and now is experiencing a dramatic fall. People literally are not having sex and reproducing in these countries. No amount of "soft power" TikTok KPop dudes changes this:

I'm not guaranteeing anything. But I truly believe the birth rate problem is way overblown. All across the world birth rates are rapidly dropping everywhere but Africa.

I don't why u don't consider how critically the rapid demographic changes in the west will affect countries. What happens when the people who built up the western hegemony are much smaller in numbers and power? China's surplus of people alone outnumbers the entire white race. China's racial composition will stay solidly han chinese.
 
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Like I said, low birth rate is a result of harsh work hours mandates for the east to compete with centuries worth of head start by the west. When the west starts to decline in a major way in the next two decades work hours will go down and birth rates will go up. Meanwhile Amerimutts will probably start another civil war.
The issue runs far deeper than just work. Work does have a major impact but this is largely a cultural issue and a very difficult one to fix.
Wealthy Chinese women are literally importing white sperm rather than have Chinese families. This can't jsut be fixed with lower work hours, and after 20 years of this shit I don't think you understand the amount of permanent damage that can be done.
 
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I'm not guaranteeing anything. But I truly believe the birth rate problem is way overblown. All across the world birth rates are rapidly dropping everywhere but Africa.

I don't why u don't consider how critically the rapid demographic changes in the west will affect countries. What happens when the people who built up the western hegemony are much smaller in numbers and power? China's surplus of people alone outnumbers the entire white race. China's racial composition will stay solidly han chinese.
Exactly. Even in a hypothetical worst outcome for Japan and Korea, which will not happen for reasons I mentioned in other posts. China alone will be able to keep the East Asian economic engine running. Mutting will result in culture wars becoming ever more prevalent in the west leading to political deadlock, civil war, or facism (like the nazis).
 
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Stable short term yes. But you shouldn't blindly expect such repression to maintain and not experience any throes.
Typically these authoritarian societies crash and burn, there is a surplus of 40 million men in China.
Do you expect them to keep their heads down and die alone quietly for party officials?
Unironically yes. I'm not even saying I'm right. But I believe that's what will happen. (For better or worse) I wouldn't be surprised with the CCP if they did something bat shit crazy to fix that problem.
 
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Stable short term yes. But you shouldn't blindly expect such repression to maintain and not experience any throes.
Typically these authoritarian societies crash and burn, there is a surplus of 40 million men in China.
Do you expect them to keep their heads down and die alone quietly for party officials?
Unironically yes.
China’s greatest wish is to repay the century of humiliation. Generations have already sacrificed themselves for this goal. Confucian culture dictates children must follow their lead until the goal has been achieved, which they will.
 
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Unironically yes.
Welp...I have no response. This is delusion. 40 million wayward men are more than enough to topple a society, hell even 1% of that could organize and fuck shit up.
 
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