THE FIRST CCW ROTATION IN PSL HISTORY HAS BEEN OBTAINED WITH MSE

[retard]

Holy shit, this is literally history in the making for looksmaxxers, someone on here who has got MSE with Dr. Ting has been incisor chewing falim 8 hours a day and frontally tip mewing whenever not chewing

Dr. Ting got pissed as fuck at him and asked him what he did to his maxilla to rotate it because he developed an open bite

For the first time in PSL history, it is now possible to decrease midface length without getting bimax and ending up in a hospital puking blood up for 3 days

Keep in mind he is not even using facemask, it is entirely just the MSE to weaken the sutures + incisor chewing

So we can definitely know that MSE + incisor chewing can decrease midface length, and get CCW rotation, however it is still up in the air if you can achieve this without MSE to weaken the sutures.

He will be getting x-rays sometime in the next month

he wants to be anonymous so no I am not posting user/pics

The history of looksmaxxing is being made right now sons, may we all ascend

 

[JustBeCurry]

good thread keep us posted on the xrays

 

[oatmeal]

yep I saw u PMing me about this.

I am interested. if he releases xrays ping everyone who reacted to the post.

us aspies will find a way to win someway somehow.

@Hunterslayer @DatGuyYouLike @SPFromNY914

 

[Taylorswift]

Does it really decrease the actual vertical length of the nose? What if i already have a forward grown maxilla?

 

[SPFromNY914]

Holy shit, this is literally history in the making for looksmaxxers, someone on here who has got MSE with Dr. Ting has been incisor chewing falim 8 hours a day and frontally tip mewing whenever not chewing

Dr. Ting got pissed as fuck at him and asked him what he did to his maxilla to rotate it because he developed an open bite

For the first time in PSL history, it is now possible to decrease midface length without getting bimax and ending up in a hospital puking blood up for 3 days

Keep in mind he is not even using facemask, it is entirely just the MSE to weaken the sutures + incisor chewing

So we can definitely know that MSE + incisor chewing can decrease midface length, and get CCW rotation, however it is still up in the air if you can achieve this without MSE to weaken the sutures.

He will be getting x-rays sometime in the next month

he wants to be anonymous so no I am not posting user/pics

The history of looksmaxxing is being made right now sons, may we all ascend

Lifefuel bro

 

[oatmeal]

@AutisticBeaner @reptiles

 

[Deleted member 3020]

so his mandible upswung?

 

[retard]

Does it really decrease the actual vertical length of the nose? What if i already have a forward grown maxilla?

It’s a combination of nose length and philtrum length decrease, and it that length turns into forward growth

You can simulate it your self, just stick your hand out flat at a negative angle, and CCW rotate it and you can see it occupies less vertical space and more forward/saggital space

 

[retard]

so his mandible upswung?

no just his maxilla, keeping your teeth together will allow it which he didn’t do but that will take many months, it is much slower than pounding your maxilla with cumulatively tens of thousands of pounds of force over the span of a day

 

[Taylorswift]

It’s a combination of nose length and philtrum length decrease, and it that length turns into forward growth

You can simulate it your self, just stick your hand out flat at a negative angle, and CCW rotate it and you can see it occupies less vertical space and more forward/saggital space

How bad is the open bite?

 

[ovosoundszn]

need pics or idgaf

 

[retard]

How bad is the open bite?

Not for sure, atleast bad enough to piss off ting JFL

 

[JustBeCurry]

no just his maxilla, keeping your teeth together will allow it which he didn’t do but that will take many months, it is much slower than pounding your maxilla with cumulatively tens of thousands of pounds of force over the span of a day

wait so what options are there for mandible upswing?

 

[retard]

wait so what options are there for mandible upswing?

keeping your teeth together + chewing will rotate the mandible upwards by vertically building the ramus as the posterior section of the mandible is moved down and subsequently front is brought up (CCW rotation)

 

[oatmeal]

can't this cause problems with tooth wear on the incisors though?

 

[retard]

can't this cause problems with tooth wear on the incisors though?

8 hours is definitely excessive but generally no teeth are meant for chewing lol

 

[Deleted member 9670]

frontally tip mewing whenever not chewing

Is mewing with more pressure on the front better? Does it help with CCW rotation

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Nice, did he get surgical assist?

 

[retard]

Is mewing with more pressure on the front better? Does it help with CCW rotation

If you are trying for CCW rotation, yes it is better

Nice, did he get surgical assist?

Yep he did

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Yep he did

The one where they cut the sutures horizontally too or just the osteotomy, also how old was he?

 

[MentalistKebab]

Holy shit.

This nigga got a fucking anterior open bite and retards here are celebrating like he did something great

 

[retard]

The one where they cut the sutures horizontally too or just the osteotomy, also how old was he?

They didn’t do a full cut so he could still get some cheekbone gains, it was on the left and right side of the maxilla, not midpalatal suture, and early 20s

 

[JizzFarmer]

What if you have a shortish face, should I be incisor chewing or will it make me look more compressed?

 

[retard]

What if you have a shortish face, should I be incisor chewing or will it make me look more compressed?

Wouldn’t recommend then, the main benefit of incisor chewing is to decrease midface length

Psl autism would tell you the more compact the better but irl speaking taking a compact midface and making it overly compact would be a looksmin

 

[JizzFarmer]

Wouldn’t recommend then, the main benefit of incisor chewing is to decrease midface length

Psl autism would tell you the more compact the better but irl speaking taking a compact midface and making it overly compact would be a looksmin

My fwhr is already >2.1 and my chin is shortish. Should I molar chew instead?

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Holy shit, this is literally history in the making for looksmaxxers, someone on here who has got MSE with Dr. Ting has been incisor chewing falim 8 hours a day and frontally tip mewing whenever not chewing

Dr. Ting got pissed as fuck at him and asked him what he did to his maxilla to rotate it because he developed an open bite

For the first time in PSL history, it is now possible to decrease midface length without getting bimax and ending up in a hospital puking blood up for 3 days

Keep in mind he is not even using facemask, it is entirely just the MSE to weaken the sutures + incisor chewing

So we can definitely know that MSE + incisor chewing can decrease midface length, and get CCW rotation, however it is still up in the air if you can achieve this without MSE to weaken the sutures.

He will be getting x-rays sometime in the next month

he wants to be anonymous so no I am not posting user/pics

The history of looksmaxxing is being made right now sons, may we all ascend

When I incisor chew my cheekbones changed dramatically but not that they anteriorly projected, instead, they grew forwardly with zero projection, is that normal?

 

[retard]

My fwhr is already >2.1 and my chin is shortish. Should I molar chew instead?

Yep

When I incisor chew my cheekbones changed dramatically but not that they anteriorly projected, instead, they grew forwardly with zero projection, is that normal?

Incisor chewing doesn’t do a ton for the zygos, it might make them slightly higher set but that is about all

 

[oatmeal]

@ShineBright @MentalistKebab elab tbh.

 

[MentalistKebab]

@ShineBright @MentalistKebab elab tbh.

This is the great accomplishment of that patient. Fucking open bite.

 

[retard]

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This is the great accomplishment of that patient. Fucking open bite.

There is a massive difference from getting an open bite from tongue thrusting and just fucking ur teeth up vs actually getting maxillary rotation jfl

 

[oatmeal]

Why does this forum flex so hard on the medical community bros?

10 years of university vs combined desperate autism on a message board

same thing tbh jfl

 

[Deleted member 7173]

@retard does the open bite signify that the Mandible did not follow the maxilla with rotation?

 

[MentalistKebab]

@retard does the open bite signify that the Mandible did not follow the maxilla with rotation?

Bro even fucking 80% of the maxilla didnt follow the rotation

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Yep



Incisor chewing doesn’t do a ton for the zygos, it might make them slightly higher set but that is about all

Really? Thats weird because when I did it grew my browridge a ton and my zygos came forward under my eyes but they didnt really project outwards.

 

[Deleted member 3020]

technically a split maxilla is prob as malleable as adolescents’

 

[Deleted member 7173]

Bro even fucking 80% of the maxilla didnt follow the rotation

We need a facepulling device that would work even with the teeth closed. Maybe drill a few holes through the teeth for the rubber bands jfl

 

[retard]

@retard does the open bite signify that the Mandible did not follow the maxilla with rotation?

he has been chewing like a maniac and he’s only done it for 3 weeks, it would of been impossible for the mandivle to follow in such a short period of time, keeping your teeth together will allow it to CCW to match the maxillary rotation over the next several months

 

[TITUS]

I believe nothing until i see xrays.

 

[Jamal2222]

Just mew & chew bro!

 

[Chintuck22]

keeping your teeth together + chewing will rotate the mandible upwards by vertically building the ramus as the posterior section of the mandible is moved down and subsequently front is brought up (CCW rotation)

You can rotate mandible as much as you can jut. and even then, it might be hard on condyles!

I got that from @Sergio-OMS .

 

[Chintuck22]

Wouldn’t recommend, the main benefit of incisor chewing is to decrease midface length

Psl autism would tell you the more compact the better but irl speaking taking a compact midface and making it overly compact would be a looksmin

And that's why you shouldn't follow this thread if your midface is rather of a normal length, you'll end up looking like a Barrett!

@BalkanPig here's a lifefuel thread for you boyo!

 

[Sergio-OMS]

You can rotate mandible as much as you can jut. and even then, it might be hard on condyles!

I got that from @Sergio-OMS .

Then I didn’t explain myself correctly. Rotating isn’t jutting. And jutting is ALWAYS bad. There is no wiggle room for jutting. Rotation is just done by intruding teeth and “unblocking” the mandible.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

so can anyone explain to me how exactly you incisor chew? you mean chintucked chew? that kinda feels like you're forced to chew less with the molars

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This is the great accomplishment of that patient. Fucking open bite.

how's his posterior third?

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

Then I didn’t explain myself correctly. Rotating isn’t jutting. And jutting is ALWAYS bad. There is no wiggle room for jutting. Rotation is just done by intruding teeth and “unblocking” the mandible.

are you sure about that? yeah giga jutting is obviously bad but the mandible does have a range of motion

 

[spark]

Then I didn’t explain myself correctly. Rotating isn’t jutting. And jutting is ALWAYS bad. There is no wiggle room for jutting. Rotation is just done by intruding teeth and “unblocking” the mandible.

Can bollard plates be used to CCW the midface in class IIs? I want to increase the overjet. A mandibular surgery would follow obviously.

 

[mewcoper]

Holy shit.

This nigga got a fucking anterior open bite and retards here are celebrating like he did something great

at least he can maybe get free bimax after that

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Holy shit, this is literally history in the making for looksmaxxers, someone on here who has got MSE with Dr. Ting has been incisor chewing falim 8 hours a day and frontally tip mewing whenever not chewing

Dr. Ting got pissed as fuck at him and asked him what he did to his maxilla to rotate it because he developed an open bite

For the first time in PSL history, it is now possible to decrease midface length without getting bimax and ending up in a hospital puking blood up for 3 days

Keep in mind he is not even using facemask, it is entirely just the MSE to weaken the sutures + incisor chewing

So we can definitely know that MSE + incisor chewing can decrease midface length, and get CCW rotation, however it is still up in the air if you can achieve this without MSE to weaken the sutures.

He will be getting x-rays sometime in the next month

he wants to be anonymous so no I am not posting user/pics

The history of looksmaxxing is being made right now sons, may we all ascend

ASCENDING RN BITCHES

 

[Deleted member 6892]

incisor chewing falim 8 hours a day and frontally tip mewing whenever not chewing

HAHAHAH 8 fucking hours guess u gotta be dedicated

 

[Deleted member 6892]

no just his maxilla, keeping your teeth together will allow it which he didn’t do but that will take many months, it is much slower than pounding your maxilla with cumulatively tens of thousands of pounds of force over the span of a day

Ok but doesn’t this mean his bite got entirely fucked? What will he do now?

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Holy shit.

This nigga got a fucking anterior open bite and retards here are celebrating like he did something great

It’s more about the fact that ccw is possible rather than his results