The Four Horsemen Of Extreme Surgeries. How Do U Rate From Most To Least Extreme?

[Apex6]

Me
1 - LL
2 - Lf 3
3 - OBO
4 - Tripod Osteotomy

 

[looksmaxxer14]

LL is more extreme to you than lefort 3 jfl

 

[Deleted member 18582]

monobloc

 

[extremchange628181]

Lefort 3 because 20% mortality rate

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Lefort 3 because 20% mortality rate

No that's not true JFL. People always confuse the statistic about people dying from traumatic LF3 injuries (from like a motorcycle crash) to LF3 surgery...

No one would get the surgery if it had a 20% mortality rate even if they were deformed.

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Me
1 - LL
2 - Lf 3
3 - OBO
4 - Tripod Osteotomy

Lol LL is less extreme than all the others because there's actually a large market for it with methods proven at scale.

You need to go "underground" to find someone willing to do the other 3.

 

[Artemis]

Me
1 - LL
2 - Lf 3
3 - OBO
4 - Tripod Osteotomy

Idk what tripod osteotomy is, but outside the rest,

1. OBO - high risk of death (with some movements, horizontal OBO != vertical OBO)
2. Lf 3 - a little less risk however death is quite possible
3. LL - lowest risk of death. Non-zero due to fat embolism. Quite possible to leave you crippled. But not dead.

 

[Deleted member 32486]

Me
1 - LL
2 - Lf 3
3 - OBO
4 - Tripod Osteotomy

Lefort 3 and orbital box osteotomy are jokes, no one in the right mind would get them unless they were actually deformed.

 

[Artemis]

Lefort 3 and orbital box osteotomy are jokes, no one in the right mind would get them unless they were actually deformed.

You DONT SAY.

Literally, some crazy motherfucker here found a doc to perform cosmetic OBO on him. i dont remember the nickname.

 

[Harakiri Fellatio]

Can someone explain to me what these are? I've been suggested LF3 before. I look it up on Google and I just get gore.

 

[Deleted member 32486]

You DONT SAY.

Literally, some crazy motherfucker here found a doc to perform cosmetic OBO on him. i dont remember the nickname.

Link the thread if you've find it, JFL.

 

[malicieusss]

Lefort 3 and orbital box osteotomy are jokes, no one in the right mind would get them unless they were actually deformed.

There are 2 cases happening this week.

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

You DONT SAY.

Literally, some crazy motherfucker here found a doc to perform cosmetic OBO on him. i dont remember the nickname.

Cosmicmaxxer. You overestimate OBO mortality rate it's most likely sub 1%.

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

There are 2 cases happening this week.

This week? Fuark. Those guys have a balls undergoing a never done before modification. I wish them the best...

 

[Artemis]

Cosmicmaxxer. You overestimate OBO mortality rate it's most likely sub 1%.

I though like 3% or sth. But even 1% is a lot tbh.

LL has Death toll of like 0.001% or sth, not preventable. But even THIS is a LOT higher than it should be for a cosmetic surgery.

E.g. in rhino people NEVER die, unless it is a reaction to anaesthetia. And even with reactions to anaesthesia, mortality is like 0.00000..1%-sth.

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

I though like 3% or sth. But even 1% is a lot tbh.

LL has Death toll of like 0.001% or sth, not preventable. But even THIS is a LOT higher than it should be for a cosmetic surgery.

E.g. in rhino people NEVER die, unless it is a reaction to anaesthetia. And even with reactions to anaesthesia, mortality is like 0.00000..1%-sth.

3% way too high. Maybe in the early days of cranio-facial surgery 30+ years ago. There's a stat out there that major cranio-facial surgery has a 1 in 1000 death rate (so .1%)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3901901/

^At the end they talk about how the latest study in 2010 (so already 13 years ago) showed a .1% mortality rate for major cranio-facial surgery.

Also have to understand a lot of the people who undergo these surgeries have severe congenital deformities or illnesses and need very heavy correction that might increase the odds of adverse events.

In a non-deformed, healthy patient who undergoes mild correction the result might be better.

I agree that is high for cosmetic surgery and that you need to be kind of desperate to want to do it but some people are in pain and are ready to risk it.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

No that's not true JFL. People always confuse the statistic about people dying from traumatic LF3 injuries (from like a motorcycle crash) to LF3 surgery...

No one would get the surgery if it had a 20% mortality rate even if they were deformed.

you can gain LeFort III from motorcycle crash?

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

you can gain LeFort III from motorcycle crash?

it's a type of facial fracture classification.

 

[Deleted member 31767]

Monobloc is the god tier extreme surgery.

LL - countless examples, it might as well be mainstream

OBO - Cosmic was the pioneer, now we have two more cases coming along

Tripod - Once again Cosmic, there will probably be others in the coming years

LF3 - no PSL user has ever gotten one but a Jaw Surgery Forums user has gotten modified LF3

Monobloc? Silence

 

[Deleted member 29167]

1. LF3
2. OBO
3. LL
4. tripod


is tripod even that extreme lol

 

[Deleted member 29167]

Monobloc is the god tier extreme surgery.

LL - countless examples, it might as well be mainstream

OBO - Cosmic was the pioneer, now we have two more cases coming along

Tripod - Once again Cosmic, there will probably be others in the coming years

LF3 - no PSL user has ever gotten one but a Jaw Surgery Forums user has gotten modified LF3

Monobloc? Silence

since when did cosmic get tripod

 

[Deleted member 31767]

since when did cosmic get tripod

On the Surgerymax instagram page there is a post about bilateral tripod following a cosmetic obo… take a guess who that might be

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

On the Surgerymax instagram page there is a post about bilateral tripod following a cosmetic obo… take a guess who that might be

It didn't go well from what I've heard...

 

[Deleted member 31767]

It didn't go well from what I've heard...

Jesus fucking christ if that’s true smh smh

The guy cannot win. 100k on canthoplasty attempts, 200k of his parents own money all on useless preliminary lip augmentations, fat transfers, implants, fillers, he opted for a wraparound jaw implant vs bimax, people calling him uncanny…

I really admire his dedication but holy fuck he needed a better master surgical plan in place from day 1

 

[Deleted member 29167]

On the Surgerymax instagram page there is a post about bilateral tripod following a cosmetic obo… take a guess who that might be

link?

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Jesus fucking christ if that’s true smh smh

The guy cannot win. 100k on canthoplasty attempts, 200k of his parents own money all on useless preliminary lip augmentations, fat transfers, implants, fillers, he opted for a wraparound jaw implant vs bimax, people calling him uncanny…

I really admire his dedication but holy fuck he needed a better master surgical plan in place from day 1

Yes I have learnt from his lessons and am going to be super careful before undergoing any additional surgery. This shit has to be well thought out.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

it's a type of facial fracture classification.

so why does anyone actually pay for lefort III when u can get it from a motorcycle crash for free?

 

[Deleted member 31155]

I though like 3% or sth. But even 1% is a lot tbh.

LL has Death toll of like 0.001% or sth, not preventable. But even THIS is a LOT higher than it should be for a cosmetic surgery.

E.g. in rhino people NEVER die, unless it is a reaction to anaesthetia. And even with reactions to anaesthesia, mortality is like 0.00000..1%-sth.

bruh who cares if its 3% or 1% its not like ur gonna die lmao

 

[IMOGYOU]

LL is not extreme is a mainstream hardmax nowadays just like rhinoplasty
obo is really hard to perform and the results can be asymmetrical
1-obo
2-lf3
3-tripod
4-LL

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Jesus fucking christ if that’s true smh smh

The guy cannot win. 100k on canthoplasty attempts, 200k of his parents own money all on useless preliminary lip augmentations, fat transfers, implants, fillers, he opted for a wraparound jaw implant vs bimax, people calling him uncanny…

I really admire his dedication but holy fuck he needed a better master surgical plan in place from day 1

I don't understand how he supposedly spent so much
He said he spent like 600k, but for the surgeries he got, the costs should add up to way less

 

[extremchange628181]

Me
1 - LL
2 - Lf 3
3 - OBO
4 - Tripod Osteotomy

Can someone explain OBO and Tripod Osteotomy

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Yes I have learnt from his lessons and am going to be super careful before undergoing any additional surgery. This shit has to be well thought out.

Additional? Have u already had something

 

[Artemis]

bruh who cares

LITERALLY EVERYONE with IQ higher than 90, bro...

 

[Artemis]

He said he spent like 600k, but for the surgeries he got, the costs should add up to way less

Idk about his all surgeries, but for OBO, i remember NO ONE wanted to perform it on him.

Because this is NOT a cosmetic surgery.

Then he finally found a surgeon. To do it on him. Some big name.

When the surgeon takes a job that can kill u, without proper indications, with uncertain results, he as well might charge you a fortune for it because his reputation will suffer if something goes wrong. And since OBO is not cosmetic, EVERYTHING can go wrong. So he probably named the highest price he could think of.

It is in his old post here.

 

[Deleted member 31155]

LITERALLY EVERYONE with IQ higher than 90, bro...

Dude in a game I remember farming for an item which had a 5% of a chance to be dropped and after an hour of continuous farming I was able to get it. Stop with this fear mongering, that percentage is very small, it wont ever happen if you go to a good surgeon.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Idk about his all surgeries, but for OBO, i remember NO ONE wanted to perform it on him.

Because this is NOT a cosmetic surgery.

Then he finally found a surgeon. To do it on him. Some big name.

When the surgeon takes a job that can kill u, without proper indications, with uncertain results, he as well might charge you a fortune for it because his reputation will suffer if something goes wrong. And since OBO is not cosmetic, EVERYTHING can go wrong. So he probably named the highest price he could think of.

It is in his old post here.

He said he spent like 43k on it I think, meant to be 55k but somehow went down. I can't remember where he said that, if it was in the thread or elsewhere

Also technically OBO is cosmetic cos it's not a health issue, it's just only done for cosmetics in those who have extreme deviation from mean

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Additional? Have u already had something

Rhino.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Rhino.

You still planning to get obo?

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Idk about his all surgeries, but for OBO, i remember NO ONE wanted to perform it on him.

Because this is NOT a cosmetic surgery.

Then he finally found a surgeon. To do it on him. Some big name.

When the surgeon takes a job that can kill u, without proper indications, with uncertain results, he as well might charge you a fortune for it because his reputation will suffer if something goes wrong. And since OBO is not cosmetic, EVERYTHING can go wrong. So he probably named the highest price he could think of.

It is in his old post here.

The surgeon who did it is very skilled though. I'd trust him with an OBO. Doesn't matter anyways because his price for OBO is 6 figures now.

 

[Deleted member 31767]

link?

 

[MrGentleman]

1-monobloc
2-OBO (its moves your whole eyes + brow and shrinks your nose bridge )
3-LF3
4-LL
5-tripod