MammothActuary
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(REPOST from https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1007227)
Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them credit for. If they were giving off the "creep" vibe, those girls would not even be friends with them in the first place. Also, if you have enough social intuition and confidence to maintain a genuine, REAL friendship with a woman, then a lack of these things is _NOT_ what is holding you back in the game of love!!
The most common reason for the "friendzone" is what I like to call the "looks wall". He clearly has at least decent social skills if he has genuine, REAL female friends. His social skills aren't the problem. She likes hanging out with him, but she doesn't find him good looking enough to qualify for either a sexual or romantic relationship with her, so she puts up a wall between those boundaries.
If you are good looking, a sizeable chunk of your female friends WILL end up being "with benefits" someday
. They have their needs, and they aren't these strange, esoteric, absurdly complex sexual oddities that many guys assume them to be. If you had a female friend who was also a hottie, would YOU fuck her if the chance presented itself? Guess what? So would SHE if the genders were flipped! It's quite common for women to fuck one of their male friends while she is between relationships.
I cringe when the PUA community brings up the "friendzone". Just because a guy is only friends with a girl does NOT mean he isn't fucking her! In most cases, a guy who was "friendzoned" wasn't really "friendzoned" at all, he just hit the looks wall. What many guys out there don't understand is this: If you can make genuine, lasting friendships with women, you ALREADY HAVE the social confidence and people skills required for MORE than friendship with women! If a girl "puts you in the friendzone", but really wants to be friends - not just the typical "LJBF" excuse -, then she just wasn't physically attracted to you. It's your looks, not your "beta behavior" or lack of game.
Remember this:
Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.
The platonic friend, the potential husband, and the lover. Those are the 3 main categories a woman puts you in. The holy grail among women is a man who fits all 3, but for long term relationships, most have to settle for a man they don't really desire - and THAT's why so many marriages end in divource!
Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them credit for. If they were giving off the "creep" vibe, those girls would not even be friends with them in the first place. Also, if you have enough social intuition and confidence to maintain a genuine, REAL friendship with a woman, then a lack of these things is _NOT_ what is holding you back in the game of love!!
The most common reason for the "friendzone" is what I like to call the "looks wall". He clearly has at least decent social skills if he has genuine, REAL female friends. His social skills aren't the problem. She likes hanging out with him, but she doesn't find him good looking enough to qualify for either a sexual or romantic relationship with her, so she puts up a wall between those boundaries.
If you are good looking, a sizeable chunk of your female friends WILL end up being "with benefits" someday
I cringe when the PUA community brings up the "friendzone". Just because a guy is only friends with a girl does NOT mean he isn't fucking her! In most cases, a guy who was "friendzoned" wasn't really "friendzoned" at all, he just hit the looks wall. What many guys out there don't understand is this: If you can make genuine, lasting friendships with women, you ALREADY HAVE the social confidence and people skills required for MORE than friendship with women! If a girl "puts you in the friendzone", but really wants to be friends - not just the typical "LJBF" excuse -, then she just wasn't physically attracted to you. It's your looks, not your "beta behavior" or lack of game.
Remember this:
Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.
The platonic friend, the potential husband, and the lover. Those are the 3 main categories a woman puts you in. The holy grail among women is a man who fits all 3, but for long term relationships, most have to settle for a man they don't really desire - and THAT's why so many marriages end in divource!
